Havoc/E-Stane... Propecia

nateo1979

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Thinking of doing a cycle of havoc/estane.. However I have heard that havoc/estane is harsh on your hair. I have a full head of hair, however I dont want to lose it for the sake of getting bigger. If I take propecia during the cycle will that prevent hairloss?
 
i dont think you will go bald in a 4 week cycle of epistane.. and also i bet the finastride would make the cycle even less effective than it already is.
 
nephilim666 said:
i dont think you will go bald in a 4 week cycle of epistane.. and also i bet the finastride would make the cycle even less effective than it already is.
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I dont think I will go bald however I dont want to thin either. And when people say less effective.. What does that mean. Does that mean instead 10lb I will only gain 8-9lb or instead gaining 10 lb on the bench my strength will only go up 7-6 lb. Because I can deal with that.
 
i couldnt tell you numbers man. finastride blocks dht to a degree so if any of epistanes effects are through dht than they will be lessend.
 
propecia wont do jack for EPI, Epistane is already reduced, and it is also a DHT derivitive, if you are prone to balding then it will definitely do a number on your hair line. IF you have a "head full of hair" chances are you might not be predisposed to balding.. you can always run it and find out =)
 
i dont know about trenadol or what it converts to so I would avoid it. Mdrol would be a good choice it seems to be pretty explosive.. Why dont you try a cycle like this

hdrol
75/75/75/75/75
+
mdrol pulsed on : M W F

I will be doing that cycle shortly and expecting fantastic results.
 
sorry, Mdrol is also already reduced so propecia would have no effect, good thing is Mdrol is not known for causing any hair loss.
 
You can use the following if you are worried:

Nizoral 2% shampoo everyday

or if you're really worried

5% spironolactone cream (spiro cream)
 
nateo1979 said:
So Mdrol would better than havoc/epi if you are worried about hairloss.
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Epi is not even an option if you are worried about keeping your hair. Epi is one of the worst for the hair line. Stick to MDrol, or Hdrol. These are the safest and multiple people prone to balding on here can attest to that.
 
citystreets said:
Epi is not even an option if you are worried about keeping your hair. Epi is one of the worst for the hair line. Stick to MDrol, or Hdrol. These are the safest and multiple people prone to balding on here can attest to that.
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What about any of the "tren" products like xtreme tren or trenadrol?
 
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