Havoc/cyclo tren stack

[japiranio]

im goin a havoc/Cyclo-Tren cycle

i wanted help with dosage and what all i should take in PCT
Run the Havoc"30mg" for 4 weeks and the Cyclo Tren for 6 weeks

i was thinkin
clomid or nolva or REVERSITOL <-- witch one ha
do i need a cort blocker if so is X-lean ok
ill be eating/ and trainng right while taking support sups
i read that the shut down is pretty rough with this stack is ther anythign i can do to help that.

if anyones taking this stack please share your experience

thanks Joe


i weigh about 210 6' about 8% bodyfat

 

[japiranio]

nobody???

 

[mrtattoo330]

make sure you take cycle support like 2 weeks before you start the combo. i didn't and got crazy headaches a couple weeks in from high bp. just took some celery seed extract to help along with cycle support. good luck and happy lifting ! :clean:

 

[crazyfool405]

preload cycle support ( 1 scoop preleoad) 2 scoop on cycle.

i would do a bridge

set it up in a way we can see it easier,, and list the supplements u have all including OTC PCT supps and AIs

 

[japiranio]

i was thinkin during the cycle
cycle support
creatine
glutamine
Taurine
multi vita
fish oil
pop about 2 liver tabs each meal

what else?

PCT
same sups above
clomid or nolva or REVERSITOL thats my question.
do i need a cort blocker if so is X-lean

 

[Rugger]

Clomid

 

[crazyfool405]

Clomid

i must give more reps to other people before i can rep u again....


Thanks for the heads up bout PCT assist by the way i had NO freakin idea and i feel horrible for doing that now.

 

[japiranio]

clomid it is then thank you.
cort blocker?

 

[HEARTLESS]

Cycle support.. extra hawthorn(2 a day).. does wonders for the bp

 

[japiranio]

guess no cort blocker is needed

 

[japiranio]

iv read about others dosing of clomid. if i get 60ml wat whould the dosing look like for my pct

 

[crazyfool405]

iv read about others dosing of clomid. if i get 60ml wat whould the dosing look like for my pct

i used 100/50/50/50 and worked very well along with Adex

some people dont like to go so high , but i felt fine on it, no emotional problems

 

[japiranio]

hey yall do you think i need an AI for my pct? would DHEA do the job. i dont wonna lose my Libido do you think there will be a big loss?