havoc cycle?

at1010

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thinking about stacking havoc and animal cuts...i am 510 195 and i am looking to get shredded, but keep the strength, i know i could get more out of havoc if i used it for a bulk , but i am ok with that. I am only 19 tho do you think i should still wait on a ph?
 
Still pretty young for a PH, especially this one is methylated I believe, sure up your diet and cardio routine, if you are carrying a lot of bodyfat you will loose a good bit before any muscle loss, me personally would never dable with this type of prohormone, i suggest you wait until you are at least 21, and if you insist on taking something take something non-methylated...actually better yet do a lot of research and don't take any PH's

What is your estimated bodyfat %
 
i would estimate around 12 percent....i have defined arms just alil belly fat...my diet can only be so good cause i am on a meal plan at a college it rural ohio...i dont have much choices, i try to eat alot of chicken and my cardio is fairly good not to mention i lift with a sense of urgency and bust my balls. I mean i deff see resluts just at times i mean who doesnt wnat them to come alil quicker
 
I would wait for a response from an experienced PH user, they may be unwilling to respond because of your age, but from what i understand if you do your first PH make it mild to asses your bodies reaction and and use a proper PCT, I suggest that you do not use a PH and wait until you are at least 21, your natural hormone levels are pretty high at 19 so do everything you can to reach your natural potential before going over to AAS or PH's...try a fat burner like lipo 6
 
at1010 said:
thinking about stacking havoc and animal cuts...i am 510 195 and i am looking to get shredded, but keep the strength, i know i could get more out of havoc if i used it for a bulk , but i am ok with that. I am only 19 tho do you think i should still wait on a ph?
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I have a ton of experience with Havoc/Epistane and have run it multiple times. Do NOT use a PH until you are at least 21 years old. You don't want to be another story in the news of some kid messing him self up. At your age you should just concentrate on your diet and workout schedule. Work hard and eat right and you will see results. I prefer Lipo 6 myself during my cutting cycles.
 
Wait on Havoc. If you wanted to run anything run clenbuterol. It has been shown to have an "anabolic" effect in that it directs the body not to catabolize muscle, it boosts metabolism to help with cut, and it is non-hormonal. Start your dose at 40 micrograms and if you tolerate that well then up your dose by 20 micrograms. Continually up dose until you reach you tolerance not to exceed 120 micrograms daily. Stay at max dose two weeks then taper off. At night before bed take a little benadryl to clear beta 2 receptors. Continue benadryl during the first week off of clen. You can alternate 2-3 weeks off / 2-3 weeks on. There are other dosing schedules but that is the one I recommend for you.
 
Ahh i would try the lipo 6 before the clen, and it might be tuff for you to get Clenbuterol, since it is illegal an all
 
jayts22 said:
Ahh i would try the lipo 6 before the clen, and it might be tuff for you to get Clenbuterol, since it is illegal an all
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:rofl: Yeah you might have trouble getting it cause its illegal :rofl:

Sorry. On a serious note, i've never run lipo 6. Clen I've run a few times and I think its pretty decent. IDK - I dont think the PH is the way to go. If you have trouble finding the clen just PM me.
 
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