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Havoc cycle and PCT

Napao

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Please tell me what do you think of my Havoc cycle anc PCT:

Cycle:

Havoc: 20/30/40/40
Cycle support: 2/3/4/4

PCT:

PCS: 4/4/3/3
Novedex XT: 3/3/2/1
Retain: 3/3/2/1

Some people tell me that i don't need to use Nolva for havoc PCT but i'm not really sure.

Thanks!
 
If you do a normal Havoc cycle, you certainly need a good PCT (e.g. Nolva)

if pulsing, not necessary unless really shutdown (better to have Nolva available, just in case needed)

I pulsed Havoc, for me Nolva was not neccesary, just used 'Post Cycle support' from AI and cortisol blocker
(but during cycle I also used a cortisol blocker, test booster and dhea)
 
Ok thanks for your answers!

So Nolvadex is not nessary but it's better to have it on the hand.

Some people tell me that there is no risks of gyno with Havoc so: Wright or wrong??
 
What does:
Cycle support: 2/3/4/4
mean?

Does that mean you're doing 4 scoops a day in week 3 and 4 ?

Whats the reasoning behind ramping that up? most people preload it for a week or two before hand then run it 1-2 scoops a day thru cycle.
 
DrakeC said:
What does:
Cycle support: 2/3/4/4
mean?

Does that mean you're doing 4 scoops a day in week 3 and 4 ?

Whats the reasoning behind ramping that up? most people preload it for a week or two before hand then run it 1-2 scoops a day thru cycle.
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When you say "preload" cycle support before hand do you mean take like 4 scoops a day, something like that?
 
DrakeC:

Exactly, i will take 4 scoops a day during week 3 and 4.
Do you think it's too much?
 
liddodragon said:
When you say "preload" cycle support before hand do you mean take like 4 scoops a day, something like that?
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It just means to start using it a week or two before you start the cycle. I would just use the recommended dose of 2 scoops a day before and during.
 
Napao said:
Someone to answer??
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Ok the best answer is that you have to make your on decision on pct. IMO you should always have a SERM on hand in case of problems but it may not be needed. Post Cycle Support was developed for Epi/Havoc pct. The Trans-resveratrol in it is a SERM like compound that has many benefits.

Here is a couple of suggestions

Nolva 20/10/10/10
Post Cycle Support 2 caps a.m. and 2 caps p.m.

Another possible pct would be

Post Cycle Support 2 caps a.m. and 2 caps p.m.
6 oxo(started week 3 or 4 of pct) and taper the dose down
Nolva on hand.

I am going to leave you some links that may help.

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Hope this helps bro and feel free to ask anymore questions:thumbsup:
 
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