IMO the addition od wynny would be pretty redundant. Sure it may add slightly to the muscle density, but IMO it will not be that dramatic. The wynny is not going to magically melt the fat off your stomach. If you want to improve your stack, get some test prop to add to it. If you want to try something legal to add, try propadrol. I am taking it right now with superdrol and I am getting absolutely shredded. Anyways, the addition og wynny will not substantially affect the enhancement which you would experience from havoc alone. It would be a waste of money and starain your liver more.