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Havoc and Hdrol together

spshond

spshond

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There have been several individuals that have taken both Methyl's at the same time with great gains as long as the doses are light. They are both Mild Designer S. How would you guys recommend taking them throughout the day. I work out in the morning 8:am.

Recommended Doses:
Havoc - 20/20/30/30 - 10 mg per pill
Hdrol - 25/50/50/50 - 25 mg per pill

Would this be okay
 
A few question first. I recently did a Hemadrol/Havoc stack so i might be able to help you.

1)Height/ Weight?
2)Previous experience?
 
5'10, 190 lbs
experience - I have done a cycle of A.S. Decabolan in the past many years ago and also several other Pro Hormone cycles int he past before them being banned. Iam 34

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I recently did a Hdrol/Epirdol cycle
Hdrol 50/50/50/50
Epirdrol 10/20/20/20

LOVED IT!!!
Super recomp with spot on diet got down to 5%bf and didnt do any cardio (naturally really lean anyway)
Strength was great throughout and always increased each week. Vascularity was insane. Only side effects was some lethargy 4th week. Possibly would have gone to 30mg on the epidrol but like i said gains were still great and didnt wanna push the lethargy too much. I would possibly restructure it with the Hdrol the first couple weeks, a bridge week then couple weeks of Epidrol to use higher doses. But it is a potent cycle. LIke I said if you diet is on point and you are fairly lean you will look crazy in the gym. Everyone was always asking me what I was on LOL
 
looks good. u dont plan on doing it, but i would suggest to keep the dosage u have....dont go to 40mg epi or 75mg halo
 
That looks just fine. X2 on not going past 40mg/75mg. I kept mine at 30/50 the whole time.

Also I had wicked lethargy about week 2, but it went away, dont know how to explain it. I never changed anything.

I also felt much better as my cycle went on to where i was a monster in the gym by week 4, i didnt want to stop my cycle.

I know your not looking for diet advice but my diet the whole cycle was mostly less than<100grams of carbs a day, body weight or more in protein. this would be contrary to most people who suggest to monster load up on food.

I gained 15 pounds while decreasing my body fat by a visible amount.
 
When did you guys take your D.S. around what time, ( an our before workout )?

100 grams of carbs, wow. I wonder if that was teh exact reason why your were lethargic by the 2nd week. Wow. I am going to try to cycle my carbs as iam doing now. 100 will be the minimum, then 200, then 300 on my leg workout days.
 
I usually took one dose right when i woke up, then the next I would take later that day, before workout if i needed energy, after if i knew i was gonna eat a big meal. I tried to always space them at least 8 hours apart so they didnt step on each other. I also would make sure each dose is seperate compounds, instead of taking a little bit of each at the same time.

As far as carbs go, very true that could be the reason, maybe my glycogen reserves had been depleted in the first week. Thats not to say i didnt have days over 100, most weekends i tend to eat what i want, within reason. But during the week, when i workout, i usually just eat boiled chicken, 2 pounds+ with some pasta sauce on it, maybe some rice/potatoes/vegies/oatmeal but thats it. No bread, only whole wheat pasta. Its worked for me since im cutting, if i was bulking thats a whoooole different story.
 
Dosing help becuase of overnight schedule

Here is my situation: I work 7pm - til 7AM over nights. I work out right after I get off of work at 8:am. So how would you guys space out the Hdrol and Havoc. Would you take 25mg of Hdrol in the AM before workout with 10 mg of Havoc, then after sleep take the other 25mg of Hdrol and a 10 mg tablet of Havoc around 2pm. Then at 8pm take another tablet of Havoc? Spacing them out is my dilemma on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday becuase these are the days I work.
 
I would take 50 hdrol before you go into work with your last meal, the 20 havoc right when you get off work before you hit the gym. If have trouble sleeping you might need to adjust the dosage schedule.

Dont take two different things together, take each seperate. If you take 25 hdrol/ 10 havoc they'll interfere more than they'll complement.
 
Interesting, does everyone agree with the 2 methyl's not complementing each other if taken together? thank you for your reply this is definitely something I have not looked into. All the other cycles I have done, I had no problem with interaction but maybe you have something here.
 
You could also bridge halo into epi and make it a 6wks cycle. I did this last summer and gained 20lbs.

dosing:

1-4wk halo @ 50
3-6wk Epi 20,20,30,30 or 40

~abuleh
 
i took hdrol preworkout and epi after. but it was hard and i often questioned it myself???

usually took them 2hr apart. each 3x a day
but the one ting that did confuse mme was the pre workout dose so i did hdrol before and epi after.
 
im stacking eq plex hdrol and epi soon
i go to gym around 4pm wake up at 7am sleep at 10pm what would be a good dosage for these three? is it ok to mix the methyl and non methyl otgether then?
 
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