Havoc and dbol stack

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I'm thinking of running havoc first then going to dbol. Should I just do 2 separate cycles or would this stack be ok?
 
I think it sounds fun lol. I just started my havoc cycle Thursday. How much Havoc are you going to run? Last time I ran it I started getting some mad water retention at the higher mg... might have just been crappy diet.
 
Do you have an AI? Dbol is gonna swell you up like a puffer fish. Look all kinds of bloated
 
Dbol and havoc both yield good awesome gains... Would I ever stack them... No is rather use dbol as a kicker to test... But sd even more so
 
Airborne42 said:
Dbol and havoc both yield good awesome gains... Would I ever stack them... No is rather use dbol as a kicker to test... But sd even more so
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What gives bigger results? Dbol or sd? And which is less harsh on the liver?
 
Imho never ran dbol but know peeps that have. I guess they are compatible in ways but I'd say sd would do more and I definitely think its harsher than dbol. There's a euphoric feeling to dbol
 
So I should run the havoc then kick the dbol to test? I'm considering just running sd but Idk if I should bc of the sides. What do y'all think?
 
So u have obviously done cycles lol and seem in good shape. Is give it a run. Proper supports in order and a good pct and **** ill help u set up everything.
 
Yea i may have run one or two lol. Which one would you run? The stack or SD alone? My goal weight is 285-300 lbs but that's over the next 2-3 years.

My supports are
RYR-1200mg
Milk thistle-1200mg
Saw palmetto-500mg
Fish oil-1200mg
CoQ10
Orange triad

PCT
Nolva- 20/20/10/10
Erase pro
DAA
And all supports
 
On pct you wanna run nolva 40/20/20/10 for sd and on cycle you want to use liv52 instead of milk thistle. Milk thistle inhibits gains for sd. Done right... My last cycle I ran sd for a month and upper 25 pounds. I have kept it all. I'm 247 at 6 ft. My goal is same as yours lol
 
So I should run liv52. I knew it.. My buddy said no its not that good and inhibits gains lol. I like it more than thistle anyways. Do you think I should go the SD route or run dbol? How were your sides on SD?
 
Go SD bro. **** is bomb just run like 10/20/20/30. The only side I had was lethargy which I killed with carbs. Sd is a carb monster
 
I'll try it. I've just heard its put ppl in the hospital and given them jaundice and made their skin itch. They probably didn't run supports though.
 
If u do it right you should be fine. I had no probs at all. If you need help setting it up I'm here.
 
A lot of people do just 3 because of lethargy and back pumps but just plan 3 and if you feel good continue to 4. I'd do like 10/20/20/30
 
Ight. I may get some taurine just incase of bp. I'll try to keep my diet clean. How long of nolva should I run? 40/20/20/10 of nolva?
 
By bp I'm hoping you mean back pumps lol sorry umm ya that nolva looks solid... Daa 3g all way 3 pct with erase like 1/2/3/3/2/1... Is how I run it and I'm holding so shouldn't be wrong at all. Most people start erase on we 2 or 3. I say **** that lol
 
I took it as blood pressure X-D cut me some slack I have been working all night
 
**** 10% your good to go brother. Load up on hawthorne berry and cycle supports 2 weeks before
 
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