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Haven't ran anything since the Hdrol/Xtren glory days, thoughts?

bl00dbaff

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Title.

Did a couple Hdrol cycles, an Estane/Xtren cycle, and a couple other classic PH cycles around the late '00s with tamox for my lab rat.

Jumping back in I'm looking at 3-AD Pro for 10 weeks at 150mg, Iron Legion 7/11 stack at 1.5ml and 2ml respectively weeks 3-10, then nolva 20/20/10/10.

Light recomp/maintenance goal.

Am I missing anything? I wish there was a true simple Hdrol equivalent, that was fucking glory minus the back pumps but anything more than what I listed seems to punch above Hdrols potency.

I welcome any and all recommendations. Thanks!
 
TBH, I would put the 3AD money elsewhere. From what I have exp and also read feedback is less than stellar. Hdrol is still avail across the pond I believe
 
littlrook said:
TBH, I would put the 3AD money elsewhere. From what I have exp and also read feedback is less than stellar. Hdrol is still avail across the pond I believe
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Yeah I'm leaning that route honestly. I think I'll return the 4? Bottles to Amazon and get 2 more bottles of iron legion XI (did the math before I decided I was gonna do 2ml a day).

Thanks!
 
Your Halo x tren cycle is significantly more firepower than what you are about to do. You're running like a really mildly suppressive cut cycle with 3ad, 7/11 oxo. I'd look at other options if your goal is anything other then getting leaner
 
Smont said:
Your Halo x tren cycle is significantly more firepower than what you are about to do. You're running like a really mildly suppressive cut cycle with 3ad, 7/11 oxo. I'd look at other options if your goal is anything other then getting leaner
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No that's about what I'm looking for so that's good to hear. I'm curious what the modern day equivalent would be to a 75mg for 6 weeks hdrol cycle though.
 
bl00dbaff said:
No that's about what I'm looking for so that's good to hear. I'm curious what the modern day equivalent would be to a 75mg for 6 weeks hdrol cycle though.
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You can still find hdrol online from time to time. Check uk shops. Nothing legal is on par with hdrol. Those old prohormones were basically all just designer steroids.
 
I think Brawn went out of business. Their website is gone and all their UK retailers show out of stock. I’m on week two of Olympus Labs UK Halodrol, the one that shows labs results from Janoshik and each capsule lists 33.3 grams of halodrol. Just started at 66.6 mg yesterday and not really seeing any sides. Not sure if it’s bunk but I took a chance since they provided labs from Janishik. Should I be noticing anything side effects wise from 9 days of being on Halodrol so far?
 
offredjo said:
I think Brawn went out of business. Their website is gone and all their UK retailers show out of stock. I’m on week two of Olympus Labs UK Halodrol, the one that shows labs results from Janoshik and each capsule lists 33.3 grams of halodrol. Just started at 66.6 mg yesterday and not really seeing any sides. Not sure if it’s bunk but I took a chance since they provided labs from Janishik. Should I be noticing anything side effects wise from 9 days of being on Halodrol so far?
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I mean if we're talking pre US ban I think by the end of week 2 but at that point it was typically 75mgs.

My Xtren and Estane stack didn't kick till the end of week 3 and then I could do horizonal pull-up pushups lol.
 
bl00dbaff said:
I see Brawn is popular and available but don't they just get swiped up by customs?
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While I have not ordered from Brawn personally, I've ordered supplements and anabolics overseas many times and never had anything seized. It is possible, but unlikely
 
bl00dbaff said:
Title.

Did a couple Hdrol cycles, an Estane/Xtren cycle, and a couple other classic PH cycles around the late '00s with tamox for my lab rat.

Jumping back in I'm looking at 3-AD Pro for 10 weeks at 150mg, Iron Legion 7/11 stack at 1.5ml and 2ml respectively weeks 3-10, then nolva 20/20/10/10.

Light recomp/maintenance goal.

Am I missing anything? I wish there was a true simple Hdrol equivalent, that was fucking glory minus the back pumps but anything more than what I listed seems to punch above Hdrols potency.

I welcome any and all recommendations. Thanks!
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Ahh I remember those days like Spawn epi/dione and stuff like that. It’s been a minute but I know that predator nutrition a UK based used to ship to US carried a lot of those old prohormones and designers like epistane and superdrol. Might be better to just look into getting some var, tbol, winny, or superdrol is still pretty popular in some of the UGL places oral and injectable. SD was one of the strongest orals I ran back when they sold it at GNC, SS and places like that was setting PRs everytime I hit the gym for bench squat and deadlifts but the back pumps sucked and is pretty liver toxic. Personally I would just go with test.
 
So just an update. 2 weeks into 3AD (the gold caps on Amazon) at 200 mg a day (4 caps) and it feels like a mild Estane cycle. Great pumps, doing extra reps just feels natural and easy.

It IS noticable, I do think it works, it is expensive, and I'll be running it 12 weeks probably no PCT probably.

I bet stacked with 7/11 it'd be awesome but I wanna do one thing at a time.
 
I've heard people like that variation.

Not a lot of reviews and logs on the 50mg caps. Sounds like people just don't run the oral versions high enough or long enough for results to show which is why results seem to be mild.

Right now, early on though, I can recommend it if someone has the funds to spend cuz at the end of the day most of us are chasing that mythical "on/pump" feeling and this delivers in spades.
 
bl00dbaff said:
I've heard people like that variation.

Not a lot of reviews and logs on the 50mg caps. Sounds like people just don't run the oral versions high enough or long enough for results to show which is why results seem to be mild.

Right now, early on though, I can recommend it if someone has the funds to spend cuz at the end of the day most of us are chasing that mythical "on/pump" feeling and this delivers in spades.
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I don't know if I said this earlier in the threat or not because I didn't go back to look lol, but a lot of people say that the main effect from 3ad is mental, like an amazing sense of well-being and feeling good. They also say it's not suppressive.

But I wonder, the recommended dose for supplements and pharmacy medications is usually significantly lower than our cohort chooses to use them. I'm wondering if someone took 3ad up to 400-500mg a day, then what would the effects be like. Maybe at this dose we get some more muscle building potential, but maybe it also becomes suppressive and no longer has the mental feel good/well-being effects.

I like to use epi Andro as the comparison. Lots of people running at 300 mg a day or 600 mg a day and it's not suppressive, the results among that group all seem to be similar as well. Back in the day one of the members here suggested I try running it over 1200 mg a day and holy s***, it becomes a different compound lol. 1200+ gives strength gains and physique changes somewhat similar to winstrol in moderate doses.

So I'm wondering if there's a curve with 3ad as well.

Does anyone know what the typical recommended dose for milligrams is with 3ad in ORAL form. Transdermal should be stronger milligram per milligram but we don't know the exact conversion rate so I just feel like knowing the oral recommended dosages would serve us better. And then maybe someone can see what 4-5x the dose does.

And yes I know that will be very expensive. A few years back I was getting tons of free sarms and you can bet your ass that if you run them at 50 mg a day as opposed to the 15 that most recommend, they work like oral steroids do it 50 mg a day. But the side effects and the suppression goes up significantly as well
 
Lol so I think originally 3AD was 25mg caps and 125mg was the "crazy high dose" due to the cost.

Now with hardcore they're 50mg caps and the dose is 100-150 mg. So I went with 200mg. And that was at the start of week 2 (I was 150mg the first week).

I bet the cost benefit sweet spot probably peaks around 250-300. Any higher and I wonder about sides or other issues.

Also zero mental mood effects on my end.

Edit: I think 200mg - 250mh oral might be the sweet spot due to cost.

One bottle would last 12 days with 5 caps and if you wanna run 6 bottles that'd be 10 weeks? So $350 ish?
 
I'm not suggesting you do this at all, but I'd be interested to see what four times their recommended dosage would do. 400-600mg a day.

I've yet to hear of anyone getting negative side effects from 3ad that I can remember, but there's also not a ton of available information, not many logged cycles. Sooner or later when I'm only on trt il give it a try.

In the meantime I'll keep following here. At this point any information is good information so feel free to go into detail.

Did you mention how long you're going to run this for?
 
Smont said:
I don't know if I said this earlier in the threat or not because I didn't go back to look lol, but a lot of people say that the main effect from 3ad is mental, like an amazing sense of well-being and feeling good. They also say it's not suppressive.

But I wonder, the recommended dose for supplements and pharmacy medications is usually significantly lower than our cohort chooses to use them. I'm wondering if someone took 3ad up to 400-500mg a day, then what would the effects be like. Maybe at this dose we get some more muscle building potential, but maybe it also becomes suppressive and no longer has the mental feel good/well-being effects.

I like to use epi Andro as the comparison. Lots of people running at 300 mg a day or 600 mg a day and it's not suppressive, the results among that group all seem to be similar as well. Back in the day one of the members here suggested I try running it over 1200 mg a day and holy s***, it becomes a different compound lol. 1200+ gives strength gains and physique changes somewhat similar to winstrol in moderate doses.

So I'm wondering if there's a curve with 3ad as well.

Does anyone know what the typical recommended dose for milligrams is with 3ad in ORAL form. Transdermal should be stronger milligram per milligram but we don't know the exact conversion rate so I just feel like knowing the oral recommended dosages would serve us better. And then maybe someone can see what 4-5x the dose does.

And yes I know that will be very expensive. A few years back I was getting tons of free sarms and you can bet your ass that if you run them at 50 mg a day as opposed to the 15 that most recommend, they work like oral steroids do it 50 mg a day. But the side effects and the suppression goes up significantly as well
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Were you doing 1200mg oral or transdermal?
 
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