Hatin' Yohimbe

I had the very same sides described in this thread when I took Genomyx Stimaholic, heard lots of hype on how good it was but I just feel ill.


However on there label it states Alpha Y only...
 
Yohimbe is the devil!
But seriously, sometimes alphamine makes me feel ill, but other times I get an awesome buzz. US Norcodrene at 1 cap is OK, but 2 caps is pure anxiety.
The only yohimbe product I tolerated consistently was the original HEAT stack by avant labs, that had alpha-Y in it.
 
Yohimbe is the only stimulat I can't tolerare. I've been on prescription adderall and provigil (at different times) while consuming 500mg+ caffeine, done ECA at high doses, dmaa, etc. Never had any issues.

I take anything with yohimbe and I get cold, weak, shaky, nauseous, headaches and feel like crap. It's weird how some supements can react so poorly with some people
 
jamesm11 said:
Yohimbe is the only stimulat I can't tolerare. I've been on prescription adderall and provigil (at different times) while consuming 500mg+ caffeine, done ECA at high doses, dmaa, etc. Never had any issues.

I take anything with yohimbe and I get cold, weak, shaky, nauseous, headaches and feel like crap. It's weird how some supements can react so poorly with some people
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I guess there's a lot of us out there that get the sides from yohimbe after all.
 
Powder city has good quality yohimbe hcl. Actually everything I've ordered has been really good but caffeine anhydrous, I don't like that stuff at all. I used to buy mine from hsw, sucks they went out of business. A lot of times it's the brand you try that maybe makes you hate it or love something. If I would have started on nutra planets yohimbine hcl, I would have hated that supplement and probably never tried it again. I tried a yohimbe bark extract, I ordered a couple of days ago and I loved it, and it was a crappy brand.
 
I hate Yohimbe. The very first time I took it, 15 years ago, I got some twinlabs Yohimbe Fuel and took it with my normal ECA stack. I literally could not sleep for 2 days (that is a massive dose of yohimbe....like 15 mg I think). Oops. Since then I've taken it in some things and it feels horrible, and I really can't take it near a workout - I get cold chills and sweats. it just makes me feel sick.

Having said that, it seems sometimes it does not effect me so much. I remember the first time I tried Alphamine, I didn't like the flavor, or the feeling. I only finished half the tub. I went back 6 months later for the second half of the tub and it actually impressed me...still not my favorite, but it worked and didn't make me feel so bad.

Norcodrene seemed like it had more Yohimbe to me, at first, but as I used it, the effects changed and I adjusted and it is now easy for me to take.

Generally, I avoid the stuff if I can help it....

And if you take it with any Tyramine containing food, you can get the "cheesing effect" - look it up, it probably has something to do with our tolerance issues....but I'm not sure what.
 
^^ it sounds like the stuff you get is with yohimbe is the bark and not hcl. I never get the raised blood pressure from hcl. The yohimbe bark has cracked me out, but hcl doesn't. It's not for everyone but there is also different percentages of the alcaloids in yohimbe bark. Yohimbine hcl is great but it doesn't make my heart best fast, the bark does and that's a feeling I like. It's not very good on it own IMO, but stacked works very well.
 
Maybe it's just the yohimbe loses potency after awhile so then you go back to that same preworkout and then all of a sudden it feels great. That's like me and hypermax. I use the older versions and it works for me. I'm about to run out though :(
 
I'll never forget when I tried these pills I was used too taking, the alkaloid% of yohimbe bark was the only difference. I kept having a feeling a rubber band was snapping my forehead hard. I couldn't get my heart rate down for nothing. I was scared to eat because my heart rate goes up when I eat. I threw all the bottles out I bought and they were brand new.
 
goodvibes said:
Maybe it's just the yohimbe loses potency after awhile so then you go back to that same preworkout and then all of a sudden it feels great. That's like me and hypermax. I use the older versions and it works for me. I'm about to run out though :(
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Good theory - I have some straight Yohimbine HCL powder from Nutra that I probably have some left of.....I'll see if I can find it. It's probably 4-5 years old now. Maybe, if I get the guts, I'll give it a shot.
 
That's not a good brand of yohimbine hcl? I bought two containers of it. Used it for a week and threw it out. That's way to old anyway. Nutra as in nutra planet?
 
It seems no matter where I order stuff from except one place, everybody sends me expired supplements or expiring soon. I hate that so much.
 
No not true. This yohimbe bark expires in November. That was a deal. I used to order from pure bulk and they always sent me expired willow bark and tyrosine expiring soon. I can tell in my fatburners [i use 10 things] what ingredient is going bad, because I will get mild side effects like headache nausea etc. As soon as I use the new ingredient in my pills the side effects go away. I also get more leaner when I use new products of the same ingredient.
 
The double post not true lol
 
lol. I know it wasnt let me post, taking forever. I want to find a yohimbe bark extract like scifits masive bark.
 
Yes. I had my liver and kidneys tested a few weeks ago. Everything was very close to the normal number range. I've never had any health problems and no health problems from taking fatburners.
 
My numbers are almost perfect. This is for my liver and kidneys and to see if I had diabetes, just as a precaution.
 
It doesn't affect liver/kidney values unless you're dehydrated for long periods of time. Strong stimulants and appetite suppressants aren't just recommended to be taken long term because your body will stop reacting to it. Metabolism will slow down too if I'm not mistaken.

I myself cycle caffeine every 3 months and dnt take it everyday. I have a 2 on one day off routine. Anything more then I feel like I need to fix my lifestyle. Is there a reason why you take it year round? To control weight gain or just for energy boost?
 
I tried this Swanson yohimbe bark extract a couple of hours ago. I like it. I probably only took 100mgs. I wish it was newer.
 
I like the feeling stimulants give me. I mean with everything I take, I wanted to know about my liver and kidneys. I take 40 supplements and vitamins everyday.
 
51FTY said:
I tried this Swanson yohimbe bark extract a couple of hours ago. I like it. I probably only took 100mgs. I wish it was newer. I used to clean so much when I took the bark. I take yohimbe hcl but it doesn't make like to clean. Ill try a bigger dose later today.
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You also knw this thread is called "Hatin' Yohimbe" right? Not "like it" or "lovin" yohimbe.

Jk! I just want to let you knw it doesn't hurt to cycle it. We all love stimulants here, maybe not at your level though
 
Lol. Well I think you hated it because you tried a not good brand. I have tried some crappy brands of it but they can vary so much.
 
You reps are annoying. All you do is talk **** on everyone too push your products and put everyone else down. I swear that all you guys do. You don't give honest reviews in anything, your being paid act like jerks.
 
goodvibes said:
Just need to rant... Also looking for some answers. Why does yohimbe affect me like Im about to have a fever? I've done this at least 10x and I'm 100% sure it is the Y.

I get cold and weak. It does go away after a few hours but I have a full tub of alphamine I need to slang on the streets now.
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ill effects from too much yohimbine, loop back from norepinephrine over flow. Same thing happens to me if I drink coffee bc I'm sensitive to caffeine (but not to yohimbine). If someone was to take say 500mg of caffeine, usually same affects happen.
 
Chuck Diesel said:
ill effects from too much yohimbine, loop back from norepinephrine over flow. Same thing happens to me if I drink coffee bc I'm sensitive to caffeine (but not to yohimbine). If someone was to take say 500mg of caffeine, usually same affects happen.
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Sounds logical, I would try a lower dose but I never buy Y as a standalone. Maybe the combination of Y on top of other stimulants is a factor. In contrast to your statement, I can down 600mg caffeine on top of 200mg ephedrine w/out any bad sides. Thats probably a good indicator of my threshold correct?
 
goodvibes said:
Sounds logical, I would try a lower dose but I never buy Y as a standalone. Maybe the combination of Y on top of other stimulants is a factor. In contrast to your statement, I can down 600mg caffeine on top of 200mg ephedrine w/out any bad sides. Thats probably a good indicator of my threshold correct?
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Yes, but your body has loop backs where it can down regulate from E and caffeine, it just decreases norepiephrine release or speed its breakdown or from caffeine, you end up producing more adenosine (or whatever it is that makes you sleepy). The loop back (natural) from Yohimbe is harder in the human body because it blocks one of the 3 main enzymes that breaks down norepinephrine (MOA-A, MOA-B and COMT). The loop back to stims IS more production of these enzymes.

Yes the combo also will do that.
 
Chuck Diesel said:
Yes, but your body has loop backs where it can down regulate from E and caffeine, it just decreases norepiephrine release or speed its breakdown or from caffeine, you end up producing more adenosine (or whatever it is that makes you sleepy). The loop back (natural) from Yohimbe is harder in the human body because it blocks one of the 3 main enzymes that breaks down norepinephrine (MOA-A, MOA-B and COMT). The loop back to stims IS more production of these enzymes.

Yes the combo also will do that.
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Sounds like the Y is no bueno for me then.
 
goodvibes said:
Sounds like the Y is no bueno for me then.
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Yeah, people who are sensitive to it, are sensitive to it at any dose. Thats why you see all this "Raufolia" blabla in products. Honestly, its yohimbine,
but consumers who are sensitive to Y don't see Y and buy it. If you look up the bad reviews for any Raufolia(sp) preworkout on Amazon, you will see
a lot of reviews that state how it affects you.

I have had people test products, and seen how some people cant even handle 1mg of Y. They get cold sweats, etc for hours also, like 8 hours or it hits them like 5-8 hours after they take it. Probably when they consume caffeine.
 
Chuck Diesel said:
Yeah, people who are sensitive to it, are sensitive to it at any dose. Thats why you see all this "Raufolia" blabla in products. Honestly, its yohimbine,
but consumers who are sensitive to Y don't see Y and buy it. If you look up the bad reviews for any Raufolia(sp) preworkout on Amazon, you will see
a lot of reviews that state how it affects you.

I have had people test products, and seen how some people cant even handle 1mg of Y. They get cold sweats, etc for hours also, like 8 hours or it hits them like 5-8 hours after they take it. Probably when they consume caffeine.
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Makes a lot of sense, thanks for the info. I actually have a deeper understanding of how it's affecting me.
 
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