Hastur's Journey - SUP3R-11/SUP3R-EPI/SUP3R-4/SUP3R-1/TR3ST Log (Sponsored)
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Hastur
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Yes sir, for the sake of the cycle, I stayed consistent.
hamdysayed
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whoa looking swole.
NoAddedHmones
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My man, looking joooicy af
GNO
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Hastur
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Thanks, brothers! I'm pretty pleased with the results of the cycle!
Today's Update:
~HIIT: (45m Total)
5m LISS/Walked
30s Jogged
2m LISS/Walked
30s Sprinted
2m LISS/Walked
30s Sprinted
2m LISS/Walked
30s Sprinted (Shins were too pumped to keep during intervals)
32m LISS/Walked
-Pretty sad attempt at HIIT, shin pumps totally killed it, haha. Made the jaw pumps seem like nothing.
-Afterwards my heart rate stayed elevated for a significant amount of time, I had even been sitting for quite a while and my chest was still pounding. In fact, it's still elevated. And it's been an hour.
Today's Update:
~HIIT: (45m Total)
5m LISS/Walked
30s Jogged
2m LISS/Walked
30s Sprinted
2m LISS/Walked
30s Sprinted
2m LISS/Walked
30s Sprinted (Shins were too pumped to keep during intervals)
32m LISS/Walked
-Pretty sad attempt at HIIT, shin pumps totally killed it, haha. Made the jaw pumps seem like nothing.
-Afterwards my heart rate stayed elevated for a significant amount of time, I had even been sitting for quite a while and my chest was still pounding. In fact, it's still elevated. And it's been an hour.
Hastur
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Man, I either haven't done it in a while or HIIT doesn't mesh with this cycle/amount of anabolics, haha. I used to do more, but the legs started to lock up and I was running straight-legged, it had to have been a sight! I hate running too... Ughh...
GNO
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Flashback to my shin pumps on first cycle :frustrate: and the ph induced thermo effect :firedevil:
HIT4ME
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I feel like that walking up stairs .
Hastur
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I don't do stairs. I just lay on my side and roll. I'm not risking the shin pumps.
hamdysayed
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Hastur
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Haha, I'm tempted to! It's my last Back day on-cycle, and 505lbs went up easier than I thought! And the 11-KT has treated me well, if that's what you're asking brother. But! I think the Trest bloat has obscured the 11-KT fat loss. I looked into it, and even on Exemestane guys have reported this. I guess when you come off, you REALLY see the leanness. So, looking forward to that!
Hastur
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I really appreciate that, brother! I hoped to be as informative as possible! This Friday, July 1st, I'll be taking my measurements and that should show just how effective this cycle has been!
Hastur
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~UPDATE - 06/29/16 - Wednesday - Back/Triceps
*Skipped Pre-Workout Cardio
*Barbell Deadlift - 1
(Target: Gluteus Maximus)
1x10x135lbs (Same)
4x10x225lbs (Put on belt, switched to mixed grip)
*Lever T-bar Row (plate loaded) - 2
(Target: Back, General)
4x12x105lbs (Close Grip) (Same)
*Cable Straight Back Seated Row - 3
(Target: Back, General)
3x12x12-plates (120lbs) (Same)
*Cable Pulldown - 4
(Target: Latissimus Dorsi)
3x8x10-plates (100lbs) (Same)
3x8x8-plates (80lbs) (Same)
*Cable Pushdown (with rope attachment) - 5
(Target: Triceps Brachii)
3x8x6-plates (60lbs) (Same)
3x8x4-plates (40lbs) (Same)
*Dumbbell Shrug - 6
(Target: Trapezius, Upper)
4x15x65lbs (+5lbs from last time)
*Post-Workout Cardio - 25m LISS on Elliptical
~Summary:
**Total Exercises: 6 (-1 exercise from last time)
**Total Sets: 28 (-5 sets from last time)
**Total Reps: 290 (-19 reps from last time)
~Notes:
-Since I achieved 505lbs last week, I've decided it's time to switch my routine to higher volume entirely. I don't know why, but 4x10x225lbs felt very fatiguing today, the lower reps/heavier weight I did in the past seemed easier by comparison.
It'll be interesting to see how I look post cycle, I've been bloating more recently, I assume it's the 8 weeks of Trest despite Estrogen control. Not a fan, haha.
*Skipped Pre-Workout Cardio
*Barbell Deadlift - 1
(Target: Gluteus Maximus)
1x10x135lbs (Same)
4x10x225lbs (Put on belt, switched to mixed grip)
*Lever T-bar Row (plate loaded) - 2
(Target: Back, General)
4x12x105lbs (Close Grip) (Same)
*Cable Straight Back Seated Row - 3
(Target: Back, General)
3x12x12-plates (120lbs) (Same)
*Cable Pulldown - 4
(Target: Latissimus Dorsi)
3x8x10-plates (100lbs) (Same)
3x8x8-plates (80lbs) (Same)
*Cable Pushdown (with rope attachment) - 5
(Target: Triceps Brachii)
3x8x6-plates (60lbs) (Same)
3x8x4-plates (40lbs) (Same)
*Dumbbell Shrug - 6
(Target: Trapezius, Upper)
4x15x65lbs (+5lbs from last time)
*Post-Workout Cardio - 25m LISS on Elliptical
~Summary:
**Total Exercises: 6 (-1 exercise from last time)
**Total Sets: 28 (-5 sets from last time)
**Total Reps: 290 (-19 reps from last time)
~Notes:
-Since I achieved 505lbs last week, I've decided it's time to switch my routine to higher volume entirely. I don't know why, but 4x10x225lbs felt very fatiguing today, the lower reps/heavier weight I did in the past seemed easier by comparison.
It'll be interesting to see how I look post cycle, I've been bloating more recently, I assume it's the 8 weeks of Trest despite Estrogen control. Not a fan, haha.
GNO
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You achieved a lot on this cycle, you should be proud because I am! .:clap2:
Good luck in PCT! You are going to look :fing02: once you shed some of that water & glycogen you are retaining.
Hastur
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Thanks, brother! You already know I really appreciate your support, both on and off AM! GNO might be one on the NICEST people I've ever met, for those who are unaware! I am looking forward to cutting a bit, it's good to switch things up! I'm thinking a slow cut to try and retain as much muscle as possible, since I'm not a B&C guy.
It's under Ancillaries as EOD (Every other day). The only other time it's mentioned in the main post is for PCT, where it's used the last 2-3 weeks to help decrease any estrogen increase that may arise from SERM usage, thus preventing 'estrogen rebound'. I've used it EOD the entire length of the cycle due to Trest, just because I'm a very cautious man.
Haha, me too. I might have been able to do it. But once I hit a goal, I have to dial it back and re-evaluate. I could be chasing numbers forever, when I know my top priority should be attaining single digit body fat percentage. I don't know what my body fat percentage is, but I have never had fully visible abs, and it is my main goal. I just took a detour due to pride/ego. I am pleased with my progress though, and I appreciate your support along the way, brother!
GNO
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Thanks for writing that, but on second thought I don't think anyone will believe it. I will just still PayPal the $5 as promised :buttkick:
HIT4ME
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Haha, me too. I might have been able to do it. But once I hit a goal, I have to dial it back and re-evaluate. I could be chasing numbers forever, when I know my top priority should be attaining single digit body fat percentage. I don't know what my body fat percentage is, but I have never had fully visible abs, and it is my main goal. I just took a detour due to pride/ego. I am pleased with my progress though, and I appreciate your support along the way, brother!
Having abs isn't everything. No point being lean if you have no muscle. And likewise on the support. You have been a huge help to me.
I would think you are a nice guy if you sent me $5. Haha
hamdysayed
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Hastur
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I only accept Bitcoin. Easier to make questionable transactions with.
That's true. And I've been told that before, actually. Sadly it's a bit of an obsession of mine, 12 years of exercising and fighting obesity, it's actually been the one thing I've wanted more than anything else. I suppose it's that whole "You want what you can't have" thing. My subcutaneous fat is beyond stubborn, I'm at the point that I've tried for so long I might just end up getting cryolipolysis like CoolSculpting or a similar non-invasive treatment that kills subcutaneous adipocytes. The thing that sucks is that even when they're empty, they are functioning parts of the endocrine system, so I'm fighting a hormonal battle. Cyrolipolysis would induce adipocyte apoptosis and help restore balance in a way that simply shrinking them cannot do.
But you're dead on about no point in being lean if you have no muscle! Couldn't agree more! And I'm glad I could be a help to you, sir! You're making excellent progress on your cycle, bro!
Ex-obese issues, stubborn fat is extra stubborn.
I have limited upper ab visibility, but that's the best I've ever done. For whatever reason part of me look very lean, and others do not. Arms and legs look vascular as hell, but lower chest, lower abdominal area, and love handles are all stubborn. Which is par for the course, as most people would probably say the same areas for themselves.
Brandaddy
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I only accept Bitcoin. Easier to make questionable transactions with.
That's true. And I've been told that before, actually. Sadly it's a bit of an obsession of mine, 12 years of exercising and fighting obesity, it's actually been the one thing I've wanted more than anything else. I suppose it's that whole "You want what you can't have" thing. My subcutaneous fat is beyond stubborn, I'm at the point that I've tried for so long I might just end up getting cryolipolysis like CoolSculpting or a similar non-invasive treatment that kills subcutaneous adipocytes. The thing that sucks is that even when they're empty, they are functioning parts of the endocrine system, so I'm fighting a hormonal battle. Cyrolipolysis would induce adipocyte apoptosis and help restore balance in a way that simply shrinking them cannot do.
But you're dead on about no point in being lean if you have no muscle! Couldn't agree more! And I'm glad I could be a help to you, sir! You're making excellent progress on your cycle, bro!
Ex-obese issues, stubborn fat is extra stubborn.
Ex-fatass here also. I used to be 250lbs but with a ffmi of only 130lbs. I ended up cutting all the way down to 138lbs and I still didn't have very good abs. Lol. My legs and arms had veins popping out everywhere, my chest even looked decently lean but I still had more fat on my lower belly than I'd like. I would have to say the best abs I ever had was when I was at 190lbs, but now my waist is a lot bigger than I'd like. Lol. It's just a never ending cycle of trying to improve. It's funny how you can be 1,000,000x better than you used to be, but still not be content with just maintaining where you're at.
GNO
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True, having abs is not everything. However, it is a goal I aspire to have as well (ie. sub 10 bf% with abs poppin). Is it a consequence of being vain? Sure, but it is a goal nonetheless. No different than wanting to hit xxx lbs on your squat or deadlift or make a lot of money and be rich or girls wearing a ton of make-up.
Although I was never really obese, I was a chubby kid and had some belly fat that bothered me most of my life. I never really saw a six pack in the mirror until the last few years, in my 30s, so never too late! I would tell myself just to forget about it as genetics would prevent me from getting there.
I now know that is :bsflag::bsflag::bsflag: now. I not only see them but I am in better shape than I was in my 20s and eat even more sweets now lol. Hastur you will hit your goal dude, no doubt!
Dma378
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Hey brother, had a little personal experience today that may help you and something I touched on a bit early in your log. Regarding always heavy deads. The case for backing off on weight for CNS recovery and strength progression was strong with me this morning. I haven't done heavy deads (400+) in a couple months. At least 2, could go back in my log to find the exact date but something like that. In those 2 months I have been steadily working in the 275-315 neighborhood once per week. Today did heavy deads and beat my last pull by 50lbs. 405 last time, 455 today. Just my experience, may not apply to everybody. But I broke through a huge barrier by not taxing myself with heavy, focusing on moderate weight with volume (which also has made great composition improvements)
Hastur
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So you understand the struggle! It really is a never ending cycle of self improvement. No matter how far I come, I am not content. I've heard mixed things about such a mindset, one being that high level athletes have it because it keeps them motivated to always do better, and another being that it's unhealthy because it sets unrealistic goals and breeds perfectionism where you're never satisified with your accomplishments. I suppose there's good and bad to it, but unless someone has actually been fat, and I mean REALLY fat, they can't relate to the mindset of wanting to be lean, to have abs, etc.
I admire your honesty here, brother. It's true, our goals are a consequence of being vain to a degree. Lifting over 500lbs, having visible abs, making vast sums of money, girls wearing make up, all excellent points. To be human is to be vain. I'm not ashamed of my goals, I feel that it's better to spend my time and money exercising and supplementing than on other things. I've had friends spend their money and time elsewhere, they got addicted to drugs, or ended up alcoholics. I just want single digit body fat percentage and to feel more confident in my appearance.
Stellar example! At 27, half way to 28, I sometimes feel like getting abs is just out of my reach and always will be. So when someone says they never really saw their abs until around their 30s, I get a sense of renewed hope! I appreciate the support and kind words, as always!
Hey bro! Personal experiences like this are invaluable. I completely agree with your training style, I will confess, I was pushing myself hard because I was on cycle and felt like I needed to hit PRs while I could. I'm sure if I wasn't on cycle, my CNS would have been fried, I did NOT give myself enough time to recover. Going forward, the PR attempts will likely cease since calorie deficits always kill my strength, but I do plan on doing more moderate weight/higher volume compound lifts for the body composition improvements. I appreciate your input immensely, by the way. I think that short break I took to do high volume Deadlifts after failing at 485lbs helped me breakthrough my plateau. Also, nice work on the 455lbs today!
Also, yesterday while I was lifting, I was headbanging HARD to this gem:
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You always kill the recommendations, brother. \\m//
GNO
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Good because you should not be!
Hastur
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I was just listening to Carved Inherent Delusion by Unfathomable Ruination! And wow, Nithing is a solo project? That's impressive one man could make such a brutal EP. Cool stuff, bro!
That's why we're all here, right? We passionately embrace our goals!
Hastur
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As I've stated before, I have some serious asymmetry I wish to correct:
*Left Thigh: 24in
*Right Thigh: 25in
*Left Calf: 15in
*Right Calf: 16.25in
-Left Calf is 1.25in smaller than Right Calf
-Left Thigh is 1in smaller than Right Thigh
Still attempting to correct these asymmetries with unilateral exercises.
~UPDATE: 07/01/16 - Friday Workout - Legs/Shoulders
*Skipped Pre-Workout Cardio
*Barbell Squat - 1
(Target: Quadriceps)
1x10x45lbs (Bar) {Same}
5x15x135lbs {+5 reps per set and +4 sets from last time}
*Lever Alternating Leg Extension (plate loaded) - 2
(Target: Quadriceps)
2x15x25lbs (Unilateral Exercise - Left Leg Only) {+3 reps per set from last time}
*Lever Kneeling Leg Curl (plate loaded) - 3
(Target: Hamstrings)
3x15x45lbs {-10lbs and +3 reps per set from last time}
*Lever Standing Calf Raise - 4 (Target: Gastrocnemius)
4x15x240lbs {+1 rep per set from last time}
*Barbell Shoulder Press - 5
(Target: Deltoid, Anterior)
4x15x95lbs {+5 reps per set and +4 sets from last time}
*Lever Lateral Raise (plate loaded) - 6
(Target: Deltoid, Lateral)
4x10x25lbs {+2 reps per set from last time}
*Lever Seated Reverse Fly (overhand grip) - 7
(Target: Deltoid, Posterior)
4x10x115lbs {Same}
*Skipped Post-Workout Cardio
~Summary:
**Total Exercises: 7 {-1 from last time}
**Total Sets: 27 {-9 set from last time}
**Total Reps: 360 {+11 reps from last time}
~Notes:
-Switching things up, going with lower weight and higher reps, with shorter rest periods between sets. I found this workout to be incredibly fatiguing. (No DOMS next morning though, oddly)
~End of Cycle Measurements:
~Personal Statistics/Measurements: (July 2nd, 2016 - Saturday at 11:10am) {Changes since June 1st, 2016}
[Taken while muscles were relaxed and cold, not skewed by flexing or recent physical activity. In standing position, with arms hanging down using a vinyl tape measure.]
*Gender: Male
*Age: 27 years old
*Height: 6 ft 1/2 in (72.5 in, or 184.15 cm)
*Reach (A.K.A. Wingspan): 6 ft 2 3/4 in (74.75 in, 2.25 inches over height)
*Weight: 205 lbs (or 93.18kg) {-1lbs, -0.45kg} [Via "Conair Extra-Large Dial Analog Precision Scale"]
*Body Fat Percentage: Unknown
*Body Mass Index (BMI): 27.5 {-0.1} (Classification: Overweight)
*Neck: 16 1/2 in {+0}
*Shoulders: 50 in {-1/2}
*Left Bicep: 13 1/2 in {-1/2}
*Right Bicep: 13 1/2 in {-3/4}
*Left Forearm: 12 1/2 in {+0}
*Right Forearm: 12 1/2 in {+0}
*Left Wrist: 7 1/4 in {+0}
*Right Wrist: 7 1/4 in {+0}
*Chest at nipple: 42 in {+0}
*Waist at naval: 37 in {-1/2}
*Hips: 38 1/4 in {+3/4}
*Left Thigh: 23 3/4 in {-1/4}
*Right Thigh: 24 1/4 in {-3/4}
*Left Calf: 15 1/4 in {+1/4}
*Right Calf: 16 1/4 in {+0}
~Notes:
-After all the fluctuations on the scale, I'm actually down 1lbs from the mid-way point of the cycle. So all of my weight gain came on in the first 4 weeks of the cycle, and in the last 4 weeks I lost a pound. But I'm still up 11lbs total from my starting pre-cycle weight of 194lbs.
-For having lost only 1lbs, my measurements are mostly down. I'm not sure if it's a consequence of leaning out, or what. I found this surprising, but I re-measured and the changes are indeed accurate.
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The comparison photos are not perfect, which I apologize for, but there is an 11lbs difference between the left photo and the right photo.
*Left Thigh: 24in
*Right Thigh: 25in
*Left Calf: 15in
*Right Calf: 16.25in
-Left Calf is 1.25in smaller than Right Calf
-Left Thigh is 1in smaller than Right Thigh
Still attempting to correct these asymmetries with unilateral exercises.
~UPDATE: 07/01/16 - Friday Workout - Legs/Shoulders
*Skipped Pre-Workout Cardio
*Barbell Squat - 1
(Target: Quadriceps)
1x10x45lbs (Bar) {Same}
5x15x135lbs {+5 reps per set and +4 sets from last time}
*Lever Alternating Leg Extension (plate loaded) - 2
(Target: Quadriceps)
2x15x25lbs (Unilateral Exercise - Left Leg Only) {+3 reps per set from last time}
*Lever Kneeling Leg Curl (plate loaded) - 3
(Target: Hamstrings)
3x15x45lbs {-10lbs and +3 reps per set from last time}
*Lever Standing Calf Raise - 4 (Target: Gastrocnemius)
4x15x240lbs {+1 rep per set from last time}
*Barbell Shoulder Press - 5
(Target: Deltoid, Anterior)
4x15x95lbs {+5 reps per set and +4 sets from last time}
*Lever Lateral Raise (plate loaded) - 6
(Target: Deltoid, Lateral)
4x10x25lbs {+2 reps per set from last time}
*Lever Seated Reverse Fly (overhand grip) - 7
(Target: Deltoid, Posterior)
4x10x115lbs {Same}
*Skipped Post-Workout Cardio
~Summary:
**Total Exercises: 7 {-1 from last time}
**Total Sets: 27 {-9 set from last time}
**Total Reps: 360 {+11 reps from last time}
~Notes:
-Switching things up, going with lower weight and higher reps, with shorter rest periods between sets. I found this workout to be incredibly fatiguing. (No DOMS next morning though, oddly)
~End of Cycle Measurements:
~Personal Statistics/Measurements: (July 2nd, 2016 - Saturday at 11:10am) {Changes since June 1st, 2016}
[Taken while muscles were relaxed and cold, not skewed by flexing or recent physical activity. In standing position, with arms hanging down using a vinyl tape measure.]
*Gender: Male
*Age: 27 years old
*Height: 6 ft 1/2 in (72.5 in, or 184.15 cm)
*Reach (A.K.A. Wingspan): 6 ft 2 3/4 in (74.75 in, 2.25 inches over height)
*Weight: 205 lbs (or 93.18kg) {-1lbs, -0.45kg} [Via "Conair Extra-Large Dial Analog Precision Scale"]
*Body Fat Percentage: Unknown
*Body Mass Index (BMI): 27.5 {-0.1} (Classification: Overweight)
*Neck: 16 1/2 in {+0}
*Shoulders: 50 in {-1/2}
*Left Bicep: 13 1/2 in {-1/2}
*Right Bicep: 13 1/2 in {-3/4}
*Left Forearm: 12 1/2 in {+0}
*Right Forearm: 12 1/2 in {+0}
*Left Wrist: 7 1/4 in {+0}
*Right Wrist: 7 1/4 in {+0}
*Chest at nipple: 42 in {+0}
*Waist at naval: 37 in {-1/2}
*Hips: 38 1/4 in {+3/4}
*Left Thigh: 23 3/4 in {-1/4}
*Right Thigh: 24 1/4 in {-3/4}
*Left Calf: 15 1/4 in {+1/4}
*Right Calf: 16 1/4 in {+0}
~Notes:
-After all the fluctuations on the scale, I'm actually down 1lbs from the mid-way point of the cycle. So all of my weight gain came on in the first 4 weeks of the cycle, and in the last 4 weeks I lost a pound. But I'm still up 11lbs total from my starting pre-cycle weight of 194lbs.
-For having lost only 1lbs, my measurements are mostly down. I'm not sure if it's a consequence of leaning out, or what. I found this surprising, but I re-measured and the changes are indeed accurate.
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The comparison photos are not perfect, which I apologize for, but there is an 11lbs difference between the left photo and the right photo.
Hastur
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I know, I know! Despite the measurements not appearing to have changed drastically, I'm having a harder time fitting into those Olympus Labs tanks, that mere 11lbs is the difference between comfortable and uncomfortable, haha. And I want a nice digital scale, but I work with what I've got.
GNO
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I know, I know! Despite the measurements not appearing to have changed drastically, I'm having a harder time fitting into those Olympus Labs tanks, that mere 11lbs is the difference between comfortable and uncomfortable, haha. And I want a nice digital scale, but I work with what I've got.
We need to get you get some new OL shirts, more suitable to your muscular dimensions....
I have no idea what brand if scale is good or not, I was just teasing you about the fact you mentioned the brad at all.
Hastur
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Haha, sometimes I think I'm TOO detail oriented. But then I think of all the stats I choose to leave out!
So now that my cycle is complete, I gained 11lbs, set a few PRs, I suppose this chapter in my journey has come to an end! I am quite pleased with the progress I've made, in my youth I'd never have imagined I'd actually lift over 500lbs!
Hastur
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HIT4ME
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Could be the angle, but you look to have gained a lot on your delts. Where there was once bone, looks like meat now. Haha.
And your waist looks smaller. Looks like your sides are pushing on the baggy OL shirt, but in the second photo it looks like a narrower waisted shirt and no bulging.
Hastur
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Thank you very much for your detailed observations, bro! My waist does seem to look more narrow in general, though I still suspect that I'm hold some Trest bloat of sorts, as the last two days I've looked leaner and leaner since discontinuing it.
hamdysayed
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ryane87
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Shhh, you'll ruin my chances!
That right there should get you a years worth of old school cell tech. Invaluable endorsement!