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Hastur's Journey - SUP3R-11/SUP3R-EPI/SUP3R-4/SUP3R-1/TR3ST Log (Sponsored)

Hastur said:
Welcome, brother!



My pulse is always higher when my BP is higher, which makes sense physiologically. They typically go hand-in-hand. I was actually at rest, sitting for a prolonged time, so definitely not exercise induced.



I wondered that, I am up 9lbs from starting weight, but it fluctuates a lot. I looked into it more, and the way anabolics can increase BP is very interesting. I assume from what I've read it's an increased retention of sodium and decrease of potassium, causing non-subcutaneous water retention and blood pressure issues. So I'm hoping this can be managed with a stricter diet. I picked up 2lbs of spinach after researching and reading:

100g raw Spinach (23 kcal, Carbs 3.6g, Sugars 0.4g, Dietary Fiber 2.2g, Fat 0.4g, Protein 2.9g, Potassium 558 mg, Sodium 79 mg) {200-340mg Nitrate}
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Spinach and Broccoli are both decent sources of potassium...I switch between those two.

That pulse is way high, even given your BP bro. When I was 290 and 150/90 my pulse was still below 85. Everyone is different and you're on a few things, but I think your pulse is more of a concern than that BP IMO. You are right that BP can increase chances of a heart attack, but those chances are still relatively small if we are talking an 8 week cycle and your BP is returning to normal there after.

Are you taking any on cycle support?
 
~Notes:
-Post-workout while I was eating, and my jaw actually got a pump chewing, into my temples. It wasn't very pleasant.[/QUOTE]

Have had this happen, actually a side I almost always get. Not pleasant for sure.
 
hamdysayed said:
looking swole bro.
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Thanks, brother!

Woody said:
Wow. Hell of a pump!
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Haha, you're telling me! Bro, it was ridiculous.

HIT4ME said:
Spinach and Broccoli are both decent sources of potassium...I switch between those two.

That pulse is way high, even given your BP bro. When I was 290 and 150/90 my pulse was still below 85. Everyone is different and you're on a few things, but I think your pulse is more of a concern than that BP IMO. You are right that BP can increase chances of a heart attack, but those chances are still relatively small if we are talking an 8 week cycle and your BP is returning to normal there after.

Are you taking any on cycle support?
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I see the elevated HR hand-in-hand with elevated BP on the squad almost daily, so I'm not too concerned about them both being elevated simultaneously. But don't get me wrong, I am well aware that both vitals need to be reduced significantly for optimal health. Last I really recall checking off-cycle I was 110s/60s and that was with a ton of stimulants in my system as well. And even with my previous cycle experience, I've never 'felt' my BP and HR like this, where there is a pressure in my temples at times. Now since I added in the Spinach I have felt WAY better today. But I didn't get a chance to check my vitals, far too busy working. And yes! I don't cycle without AR1MACARE PRO, and in the past it's always been enough. (But I've never gone this hard on a cycle, haha)

Adam1 said:
Have had this happen, actually a side I almost always get. Not pleasant for sure.
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Good to know I'm not the only one! This was the first time ever, and man, it was annoying! I didn't know if I'd be able to finish eating!
 
Hey man, if you don't mind saying - what kind of squad?

I'm sure you're fine, and if your on-cycle BP is up for 8 weeks and you fall back to normal - as long as the BP isn't in some crazy range that spells imminent danger - I would assume the chances of having a serious issue are still pretty small. Still, you're doing the right thing keeping it in check.
 
HIT4ME said:
Hey man, if you don't mind saying - what kind of squad?

I'm sure you're fine, and if your on-cycle BP is up for 8 weeks and you fall back to normal - as long as the BP isn't in some crazy range that spells imminent danger - I would assume the chances of having a serious issue are still pretty small. Still, you're doing the right thing keeping it in check.
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I'm an EMT, so I do EMS squad runs. Fun stuff. :p And I agree, though for the sake of this log and those who may wish to try this cycle, I'm trying to bring it down with diet so that others can know what to do in case they encounter the same side effect. But honestly, side effects have been very mild despite all I'm taking!
 
Also! For those who may be interested, I have yet another write-up that I just posted!

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Hastur said:
I'm an EMT, so I do EMS squad runs. Fun stuff. :p And I agree, though for the sake of this log and those who may wish to try this cycle, I'm trying to bring it down with diet so that others can know what to do in case they encounter the same side effect. But honestly, side effects have been very mild despite all I'm taking!
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That's awesome bro , I got my EMT but down here the jobs don't pay anything and the fire stations only hire if you have all 3 . Good to hear you're not feeling any sides too!
 
deepseajs said:
Nice write up bro. Looking forward to seeing some logs of this stuff
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jwinak82 said:
Sweet
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Thanks, guys! I can't wait til this stuff hits the market!

Alpha1agreda said:
That's awesome bro , I got my EMT but down here the jobs don't pay anything and the fire stations only hire if you have all 3 . Good to hear you're not feeling any sides too!
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That's the same here! I'm essentially the working poor, haha. I have no idea how guys afford a house, car, food, bills, and a wife and kids on an EMT salary. Hopefully you find yourself a better career path, for the long term.
 
Hastur said:
Thanks, guys! I can't wait til this stuff hits the market!



That's the same here! I'm essentially the working poor, haha. I have no idea how guys afford a house, car, food, bills, and a wife and kids on an EMT salary. Hopefully you find yourself a better career path, for the long term.
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Haha yeah bro it's tough I got lucky cuz I was in security and got payed better because I had my EMT but I somehow ended up in banking which is a good backup plan to becoming a 5x mr.O lol which is obviously plan A haha
 
~UPDATE:
-Did my 60m LISS on an empty stomach this morning, as usual. Unknown distance, unknown heart rate. Outside on the gravel driveway.
-Weighed in at 201lbs, that's the same as yesterday. So I'm still up 7lbs total since the beginning of the cycle.

05/18/16 - Wednesday - Back/Triceps

*Skipped usual Pre-Workout Cardio

*Barbell Deadlift - 1
(Target: Gluteus Maximus)
1x10x135lbs
1x5x225lbs
1x2x315lbs (Put on belt, applied chalk to hands, switched to mixed grip)
1x0x485lbs (Failed, got it half way up, just past my knees, and got stuck. My whole body shook violently as I held it half way, but had to put it down.)
(Right knee really hurt to bend it afterwards, don't know if I hit it with the bar or what.)
1x5x185lbs (Right knee hurt far too much to do reps, so I had to skip all Deadlifting due to knee pain.)

*Lever T-bar Row (plate loaded) - 2
(Target: Back, General)
4x10x100lbs (Close grip)

*Cable Straight Back Seated Row - 3
(Target: Back, General)
4x8x12-plates (120lbs)

*Lever Straight Back Seated Row (with chest pad) - 4
(Target: Back, General)
4x10x10-plates (100lbs)

*Cable Pulldown - 5
(Target: Latissimus Dorsi)
4x10x8-plates (80lbs)

*Dumbbell Shrug - 6
(Target: Trapezius, Upper)
1x15x45lbs
1x15x55lbs
1x8x65lbs
1x6x75lbs

*Cable Pushdown (with rope attachment) - 7
(Target: Triceps Brachii)
3x8x6-plates (60lbs)
(Last set's reps weren't good enough.)
3x10x4-plates (40lbs)
(Last set's reps weren't good either, triceps too pumped/full.)

*Post-Workout Cardio - 30m LISS on Elliptical (Heart Rate was 122-136bpm, about 60-70% of Maximum Heart Rate)
(Knees hurt walking up the stairs to the Elliptical machines)

~Summary:
**Total Exercises: 7
**Total Sets: 30
**Total Reps: 272

~Notes:
-Regarding the 485lbs attempt: Someone remarked that they thought I had it, because it went up to my knees so easy, or so they said. My buddy took a photo as I was attempting to straighten up, literally in the act of straightening up a second before failing and setting it back down. My pride took a hit. I was very discouraged that I failed, but there are a lot of variables. Maybe 7 hours sleep wasn't enough, maybe my pre-workout nutrition wasn't enough, maybe eating at maintenance calories isn't enough. I don't know the reason, but I know I can't blame the supplements. Supplements do exactly what they say, they supplement your diet, exercise and sleep. They're an addition, but they don't do the work for you. I don't want to be that guy who expects a supplement to do the work for me. So I'm doing something wrong.

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Before anyone asks, my buddy took the photo AND edited it before sending it to me, I would never use some novelty filter by choice... I'm not proud posting the photo, but I have to at least show I made an attempt.
 
Alpha1agreda said:
Haha yeah bro it's tough I got lucky cuz I was in security and got payed better because I had my EMT but I somehow ended up in banking which is a good backup plan to becoming a 5x mr.O lol which is obviously plan A haha
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Hey man, life is funny like that! You just have to be willing to say yes to opportunity and see where life takes you sometimes! Banking sounds preferable to EMS, haha. Though becoming 5x Mr. O sounds better. ;)
 
Hastur said:
-Regarding the 485lbs attempt: Someone remarked that they thought I had it, because it went up to my knees so easy, or so they said. My buddy took a photo as I was attempting to straighten up, literally in the act of straightening up a second before failing and setting it back down. My pride took a hit. I was very discouraged that I failed, but there are a lot of variables. Maybe 7 hours sleep wasn't enough, maybe my pre-workout nutrition wasn't enough, maybe eating at maintenance calories isn't enough. I don't know the reason, but I know I can't blame the supplements. Supplements do exactly what they say, they supplement your diet, exercise and sleep. They're an addition, but they don't do the work for you. I don't want to be that guy who expects a supplement to do the work for me. So I'm doing something wrong.
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Unless there is an obvious reason, anytime I don't kill my lift I blame diet and eat up :banana:
 
Man, failure is just the first step to success. Just keep going. Don't let it even be in your head.
 
GNO said:
Unless there is an obvious reason, anytime I don't kill my lift I blame diet and eat up :banana:
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Haha, and here I think at maintenance I'm still eating too much! I'm up 7lbs too! Maybe I'm only strong when I'm fatter, haha.

HIT4ME said:
Man, failure is just the first step to success. Just keep going. Don't let it even be in your head.
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That is true. Perhaps I just expected too much too soon. Though now with how much I hurt, I may not be able to attempt a one rep max for a while. So it may be 475lbs is the best I'll do for a while. If it is, I'll just have to accept it. I know pride will only hurt me in the end.
 
Hastur said:
It's a hell of a number to attain, I'm starting to see that, haha. And yet, I see guys at my gym do it like it's nothing! Granted, most are on real AAS, but still.
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bro don't even feel bad lol I barely can deadlier 200 lbs.
u r gooood
 
Hastur said:
It's a hell of a number to attain, I'm starting to see that, haha. And yet, I see guys at my gym do it like it's nothing! Granted, most are on real AAS, but still.
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You'll get it, bro! I'm still trying to hit that 405, almost got it the other day.

I'm confident you'll get it before the end of this log!
 
hamdysayed said:
bro don't even feel bad lol I barely can deadlier 200 lbs.
u r gooood
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Misfit28 said:
You'll get it, bro! I'm still trying to hit that 405, almost got it the other day.

I'm confident you'll get it before the end of this log!
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Thanks, guys! That's a big upside to running a log, the support is always appreciated. :) Maybe I'll scale back the one rep max attempts and see the highest weight I can do multiple reps of. And maybe start doing Rack Pulls since I got stuck at the knees and couldn't lock out.
 
Hastur said:
Thanks, guys! That's a big upside to running a log, the support is always appreciated. :) Maybe I'll scale back the one rep max attempts and see the highest weight I can do multiple reps of. And maybe start doing Rack Pulls since I got stuck at the knees and couldn't lock out.
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Whats funny, is I rarely ever attempted 1RM on deadlift, but met with a buddy to workout 1-2 months ago and he encouraged me to try....I got 405 but never hit since (stuck on 395lbs) and I have gone for 1RM every dl session since then (2x week usually).
 
GNO said:
Whats funny, is I rarely ever attempted 1RM on deadlift, but met with a buddy to workout 1-2 months ago and he encouraged me to try....I got 405 but never hit since (stuck on 395lbs) and I have gone for 1RM every dl session since then (2x week usually).
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That is why you aren't getting it I bet. Deadlift are taxing. Doing them every week is a huge strain. If you are doing a 1RM on deadlift, you should only do that every 2-3 weeks at most. Reduce your frequency.
 
GNO said:
Whats funny, is I rarely ever attempted 1RM on deadlift, but met with a buddy to workout 1-2 months ago and he encouraged me to try....I got 405 but never hit since (stuck on 395lbs) and I have gone for 1RM every dl session since then (2x week usually).
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You just need to increase your pre, intra, and post donut consumption. Duh. Day one stuff here bro;).
 
Jebrook said:
You just need to increase your pre, intra, and post donut consumption. Duh. Day one stuff here bro;).
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You are sooooo right....I will start immediately.
 
Hastur said:
~UPDATE:
-Did my 60m LISS on an empty stomach this morning, as usual. Unknown distance, unknown heart rate. Outside on the gravel driveway.
-Weighed in at 201lbs, that's the same as yesterday. So I'm still up 7lbs total since the beginning of the cycle.

05/18/16 - Wednesday - Back/Triceps

*Skipped usual Pre-Workout Cardio

*Barbell Deadlift - 1
(Target: Gluteus Maximus)
1x10x135lbs
1x5x225lbs
1x2x315lbs (Put on belt, applied chalk to hands, switched to mixed grip)
1x0x485lbs (Failed, got it half way up, just past my knees, and got stuck. My whole body shook violently as I held it half way, but had to put it down.)
(Right knee really hurt to bend it afterwards, don't know if I hit it with the bar or what.)
1x5x185lbs (Right knee hurt far too much to do reps, so I had to skip all Deadlifting due to knee pain.)

*Lever T-bar Row (plate loaded) - 2
(Target: Back, General)
4x10x100lbs (Close grip)

*Cable Straight Back Seated Row - 3
(Target: Back, General)
4x8x12-plates (120lbs)

*Lever Straight Back Seated Row (with chest pad) - 4
(Target: Back, General)
4x10x10-plates (100lbs)

*Cable Pulldown - 5
(Target: Latissimus Dorsi)
4x10x8-plates (80lbs)

*Dumbbell Shrug - 6
(Target: Trapezius, Upper)
1x15x45lbs
1x15x55lbs
1x8x65lbs
1x6x75lbs

*Cable Pushdown (with rope attachment) - 7
(Target: Triceps Brachii)
3x8x6-plates (60lbs)
(Last set's reps weren't good enough.)
3x10x4-plates (40lbs)
(Last set's reps weren't good either, triceps too pumped/full.)

*Post-Workout Cardio - 30m LISS on Elliptical (Heart Rate was 122-136bpm, about 60-70% of Maximum Heart Rate)
(Knees hurt walking up the stairs to the Elliptical machines)

~Summary:
**Total Exercises: 7
**Total Sets: 30
**Total Reps: 272

~Notes:
-Regarding the 485lbs attempt: Someone remarked that they thought I had it, because it went up to my knees so easy, or so they said. My buddy took a photo as I was attempting to straighten up, literally in the act of straightening up a second before failing and setting it back down. My pride took a hit. I was very discouraged that I failed, but there are a lot of variables. Maybe 7 hours sleep wasn't enough, maybe my pre-workout nutrition wasn't enough, maybe eating at maintenance calories isn't enough. I don't know the reason, but I know I can't blame the supplements. Supplements do exactly what they say, they supplement your diet, exercise and sleep. They're an addition, but they don't do the work for you. I don't want to be that guy who expects a supplement to do the work for me. So I'm doing something wrong.

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Before anyone asks, my buddy took the photo AND edited it before sending it to me, I would never use some novelty filter by choice... I'm not proud posting the photo, but I have to at least show I made an attempt.
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If your knee allows it, do more rep work for a while then go for it again, you definitely had it but it looks like your upper back(obviously lower back/core too) couldn't handle it. Next time do moderate singles to warm up, that's how I do it.
 
CJNator said:
If your knee allows it, do more rep work for a while then go for it again, you definitely had it but it looks like your upper back(obviously lower back/core too) couldn't handle it. Next time do moderate singles to warm up, that's how I do it.
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My thoughts precisely. My knee is still hurting today, so it's going to make work interesting, haha. But my back is surprisingly not sore even holding that 485lbs for a few seconds mid-rep. I do need to work on my core, I rarely ever do abdominal work directly. And probably switch up to high sets/high reps in the 300s for a bit. I still think practicing Rack Pulls would help at the part of the movement I got stuck on. I replayed it in my head multiple times today, haha.
 
Hastur said:
My thoughts precisely. My knee is still hurting today, so it's going to make work interesting, haha. But my back is surprisingly not sore even holding that 485lbs for a few seconds mid-rep. I do need to work on my core, I rarely ever do abdominal work directly. And probably switch up to high sets/high reps in the 300s for a bit. I still think practicing Rack Pulls would help at the part of the movement I got stuck on. I replayed it in my head multiple times today, haha.
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Also maybe try replacing regualr deadlifts with deficit deadlifts, I did them a while back but they get so taxing after a while. 4-6 inches off the ground makes a huge difference, also overall more muscle fiber recruitment to maximize dem gainz :D lol cant wait till you get that 500lb deadlift! I'll be right behind you man!
 
CJNator said:
Also maybe try replacing regualr deadlifts with deficit deadlifts, I did them a while back but they get so taxing after a while. 4-6 inches off the ground makes a huge difference, also overall more muscle fiber recruitment to maximize dem gainz :D lol cant wait till you get that 500lb deadlift! I'll be right behind you man!
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That doesn't sound right...
 
CJNator said:
Also maybe try replacing regualr deadlifts with deficit deadlifts, I did them a while back but they get so taxing after a while. 4-6 inches off the ground makes a huge difference, also overall more muscle fiber recruitment to maximize dem gainz :D lol cant wait till you get that 500lb deadlift! I'll be right behind you man!
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I've never done deficit deadlifts either! As soon as my knees are back up to snuff, I'll double my efforts and starting working harder towards this! And thanks, brother! I appreciate the support!

GNO said:
That doesn't sound right...
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This is a judgment-free thread, sir. ;) I'll do anything to get that 500lbs deadlift... anything
 
Hastur said:
This is a judgment-free thread, sir. ;) I'll do anything to get that 500lbs deadlift... anything
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I am in for the Gang :banghead:
Now it is a party!
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Volvo140G said:
Hastur how u feelin? HELLUVA STACK!
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I feel fantastic, brother! My high Spinach intake has completely killed the high blood pressure and high resting heart rate, and I am experiencing zero side effects! Even though I failed with that 485lbs Deadlift, you'd think holding it mid-rep for as many seconds as I did, struggling and straining, that I'd be sore as hell. Nope, no DOMS.

GNO said:
I am in for the Gang :banghead:
Now it is a party!
:fest30:
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Just a reminder, the safe word is 'Gainz'. Just in case it gets too real.
 
OK. Advice. How/where/when are you applying the derma-trest and sup3r-11? Using the same traps/shoulder application site at different times? Etc.
 
Adam1 said:
OK. Advice. How/where/when are you applying the derma-trest and sup3r-11? Using the same traps/shoulder application site at different times? Etc.
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I put SUP3R-11 on the right side on the neck, traps, shoulder, upper chest, and DermaTrest on the left. I do 125mg SUP3R-11 and 25mg DermaTrest in the early afternoon, and then again in the early evening.
 
~UPDATE:
-Did my 60m LISS on an empty stomach this morning, as usual. Unknown distance, unknown heart rate. Outside on the gravel driveway.
-Weighed in at 199lbs, down 1lbs since yesterday. Still fluctuating, but currently up 5lbs from pre-cycle weight. Mind you, this is a recomp, so I'm not using the weight as a big indicator of progress.

05/20/16 - Friday - Legs/Shoulders (And more...)

*Skipped Pre-Workout Cardio

*Barbell Squat - 1
(Target: Quadriceps)
1x10x45lbs (Bar)
1x10x135lbs
1x10x185lbs
5x10x225lbs (Put on belt for these) {+1 set from last week}

*Lever Kneeling Leg Curl (plate loaded) - 2
(Target: Hamstrings)
3x10x45lbs {+2 reps per set from last week}

*Lever Standing Calf Raise - 3
(Target: Gastrocnemius)
4x12x200lbs {+1 set and +2 reps per set from last week}

*Barbell Shoulder Press - 4
(Target: Deltoid, Anterior)
1x10x45lbs (Bar)
1x10x95lbs
1x8x135lbs
1x3x185lbs (PR)
1x3x205lbs (PR)
1x3x225lbs (PR)
1x2x245lbs (PR)
(Seated on an adjustable bench, in the squat rack, with a spotter who assisted unracking with heavier sets and rode with me, I brought the bar down to my nose or lower each rep I believe)

Previous Barbell Shoulder Press PR numbers for comparison:
5x5x135lbs (01/18/16)
1x9x155 (02/05/16)
1x3x175 (02/05/16)
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*Barbell Upright Row - 5
(Target: Deltoid, Lateral)
Tried 135lbs to start off with, couldn't bring it up high enough
1x8x95lbs
2x6x115lbs
(First time doing these in a very long while)

*Barbell Floor Press - 6
(Target: Pectoralis Major, Sternal)
1x4x225lbs (PR)
1x1x315lbs (Put on 'Mark Bell's Sling Shot', spotter assisted unracking and rode with me) (PR)
1x8x225lbs (Put on 'Mark Bell's Sling Shot', spotter assisted unracking and rode with me) (PR)
(First time ever doing these)

*Smith Shrug - 7
(Target: Trapezius, Upper)
3x10x180lbs (Not counting the bar)
(Tried wrist straps on these, just for fun because the guy wanted me to try them out)

*Cable Pushdown - 8
(Target: Triceps Brachii)
1x10x5-plates (50lbs)
1x8x5-plates (50lbs)
1x6x5-plates (50lbs)
1x10x4-plates (40lbs)

*Lever Seated Reverse Fly (overhand grip) - 9
(Target: Deltoid, Posterior)
1x10x100lbs (+2 reps from last week)
1x7x100lbs (-1 rep from last week)
1x10x100lbs (+2 reps from last week)

*Skipped Post-Workout Cardio

~Summary:
**Total Exercises: 9
**Total Sets: 38
**Total Reps: 321

~Notes:
-Usual partner bailed today, never texted me at all (supposedly proposing to his girlfriend of 4 years) so I went to the gym expecting to lift solo and the biggest guy there (6' 4", 330lbs, benches 600lbs) wanted to lift with me, and pushed me to really try weights I wasn't comfortable with. It paid off.
-Took my time talking a lot between sets, he is a big talker, haha. So it wasn't rapid, but I'm still pleased with this workout.


What else can I say? The work outs are getting better and better. Clearly this cycle is working for me. I need to start posting more selfies, but the measurements down the line will be very telling.
 
Adam1 said:
Wow! Killer shoulder press numbers.
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Thanks, brother! I wish I saw exactly how far down each rep was, I know it at LEAST nose level or lower, but I was so into the reps due to the weight, I could have gone to my chest and never known it. The guy spotting me said they looked great, and considering how impressive he is, I take him at his word. :p
 
Hastur said:
Thanks, brother! I wish I saw exactly how far down each rep was, I know it at LEAST nose level or lower, but I was so into the reps due to the weight, I could have gone to my chest and never known it. The guy spotting me said they looked great, and considering how impressive he is, I take him at his word. :p
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Very nice man! How are we celebrating all these PRs?:poke:
 
Hastur said:
Thanks, guys! There's only one way to celebrate...

:dance:
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You mean with donuts right?

I hope so because I already started
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Misfit28 said:
Awesome shoulder presses, man! I need to get on your level :)
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Thanks, brother! I dunno if the cycle just kicked in hard today, or if it was all the volume work and laying off testing my strength in the lower rep ranges, but it surprised me!
 
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