hardcore oral cycle input

polarcat

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Thinking about mithras at 20mg and msten also at 20mg for 6 weeks,

both are super dry so I was thinking about tossing in a 4andro or 19norandro?
Or would I be fine with just the mithras/msten?

The mithras and msten are in a combo product.

Background: 23, 6'1 215 lbs, cycle history: every single andro, msten, max lmg, cyanostane, lgd, epistane, so i understand cycle support (yes ill have tudca) and pct; i use clomid and nolva

Fully aware that I should just pin, this is potentially my last oral cycle.
 
I was thinking more dermatrest bro starting at 50ml a day and take it from there, it's a pretty low dose and shouldn't really bring you any sides at that amount, 4ad might not be strong enough,Just my 2 cents.
 
Methylated orals should only be run if you compete. Why else are you putting strain on your liver? Are aesthetics more important than your health and well-being? If I were you I'd run non-methyl's and/or injectables instead.
 
Plenty of chance for sides with 4-Android too. I wouldn't ever run it again and if I had to I would have a pharmaceutical grade AI.
 
Methylated orals should only be run if you compete. Why else are you putting strain on your liver? Are aesthetics more important than your health and well-being? If I were you I'd run non-methyl's and/or injectables instead.

Proper liver care (NAC and tudca, Lotta water) will alleviate a good deal of this imo, esp if only running 1 compound
 
I'm a big component of dry compounds. There isn't bloat, water weight doesn't look good, doesn't feel good etc...Swap the 4 Andro for Epi Andro or stano.

I was givin 3 bottles of 4 Andro by a friend. Grateful for it and I will use it but that means diet will have to be extra anal because I hold water like no other and gonna have to throw in more cardio.

The struggle is real
 
I'm a big component of dry compounds. There isn't bloat, water weight doesn't look good, doesn't feel good etc...Swap the 4 Andro for Epi Andro or stano.

I was givin 3 bottles of 4 Andro by a friend. Grateful for it and I will use it but that means diet will have to be extra anal because I hold water like no other and gonna have to throw in more cardio.

The struggle is real

I like the idea of running epi-andro with it, what dose would you recommend? I have some dosed at 250mg per capsule, I know normally you'd want 3-400 but do you guys think 250 would be enough when ran with 2 other compounds?

thanks everyone
 
Methylated orals should only be run if you compete. Why else are you putting strain on your liver? Are aesthetics more important than your health and well-being? If I were you I'd run non-methyl's and/or injectables instead.

some people drink, some people run methylated orals.
 
I like the idea of running epi-andro with it, what dose would you recommend? I have some dosed at 250mg per capsule, I know normally you'd want 3-400 but do you guys think 250 would be enough when ran with 2 other compounds?

thanks everyone

First week run 2 caps then 2nd week on id do 3 so that's 750 mgs. Test it out and see how it works for you.
 
Why not just use an agent PROVEN to get you where you want to go and is far more healthy than non regulated agents that in the end are far more expensive, too? I know, dumb question.
 
polarcat
Go msten trest for 6 weeks at 30/100 and call it a wrap. I followed one of your previous logs and you seem to know what your doing so i dont see any reason to worry.
 
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