Hard hitting orals

[netflixNchill]

On msten @20mg a day for 10 days so far, feeling heavy pumps recently but that's about it. What do you guys usually look for to know when your orals (like 1 alpha, dmz, ect) are kicking in?

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Endurance hits me first, second would probably be better pumps

 

[criticalbench]

Weight and strength gains, could care less about pumps from hormones.

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Weight and strength gains, could care less about pumps from hormones.

I never said that the pump from hormones was "magical" or anything, op just asked what differences we notice kick in first on cycle

 

[christ83189]

First thing i noticed from DMZ was stupid strength gains. Like hitting weights easily way above 100% 1rm a couple weeks in

 

[Dma378]

A few pounds on the scale, looking a little fuller in the traps and chest, vascularity increases (I'm already pretty vascular so they tend to just get thicker and stay thicker all day), and then performance increases

 

[netflixNchill]

Thanks guys, gotta agree that my chest is definitely fuller

 

[oyvind]

Vascularity and pumps are my first signs that something is kicking in. Especially on epistane or halodrol