i have never taken Halovar before and from what i read, it is a more "mild" compound than most. I am willing to take a SERM if it is necessary, but if i can get away with the above things i listed, that would be cool. I can get Recycle to add to the mix of things o listed for PCT, but i dont want it to be too much **** at once or waste the money if it isnt needed.