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Hairygrandpas log, fat- and older people welcome!- diet, training, cycles, healing

Studhorse said:
I got an Idea we can make it give the finger Friday?
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LOL, my buddies and I have a chat on Whatsapp, and every Friday we have F---- You Friday and post pics flipping off the camera. Seems juvenile, but everyone seems to like it. And it's not surprising that most of the pics happen during the AM visit to the throne.
 
Famine said:
LOL, my buddies and I have a chat on Whatsapp, and every Friday we have F---- You Friday and post pics flipping off the camera. Seems juvenile, but everyone seems to like it. And it's not surprising that most of the pics happen during the AM visit to the throne.
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I believe that is called a crapchat
 
hairygrandpa said:
No more deadlifts, bench presses and squats for months, all is about looking good naked.
I found that bicycle (at high levels) is good for legs, chin ups and push ups make the arms thick -cables give me a good chest -and inverted rows, bent over rows for back.
No powerlifting here. For comparison: FireTitan does hammer curls with 100lbs DB's. I merely use 30lbs DB's but do them inclined TUT 3.1.1.
My bet: same effect on hypertrophy, -but leaving me strength wise on puzzy level.
If I ever have to carry my wife in my arms I may face plant, lol! Regressed back to my own intuitive training method, as it yields obvious results, screw HST, ha!


Just physique goals here, hehe! One day I'll look like you -but hit like a girl, lol!
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SFreed said:
Amen brother! I need to follow this same idea and stop punishing myself with heavier weights than I should be. As long as I look good, that's the most important thing. H3ll, I'm 53 years old! My body can only take so much abuse
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hairygrandpa said:
I have still the "urge" to go heavy on some exercises like chin ups and rowing. Somehow I feel confident that I can do them without injuring myself.
70% of my training is geared towards fatigue using moderate weights to failure with rp sets.
Could be that the results from that are in great part AAS related. Anyway, it works great, that's what counts!
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Just pointing out the "I'm old so I can't lift heavy" crowd. Is that belief actually helping you guys? Is it getting you closer to your goals? I know 20 year olds who have gotten hurt lifting heavy and there are 88 year olds on YouTube doing 10-20 pull ups.

And hairygrandpa then says he still lifts heavy on SOME exercises because of confidence. That says it all.

actually, never mind. You guys are still stronger than me and still lift heavier. So what do I know?
 
HIT4ME said:
Just pointing out the "I'm old so I can't lift heavy" crowd. Is that belief actually helping you guys? Is it getting you closer to your goals? I know 20 year olds who have gotten hurt lifting heavy and there are 88 year olds on YouTube doing 10-20 pull ups.

And hairygrandpa then says he still lifts heavy on SOME exercises because of confidence. That says it all.

actually, never mind. You guys are still stronger than me and still lift heavier. So what do I know?
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I have the gut feeling that pulling exercises, like rowing and chin ups, are less likely to cause injury. Can anyone confirm -or deny this? Is there a study about it?
I could probably live without weighted pull -chin ups but I bought the belt recently, the shiny, precious belt, damn. :)
 
I am kind of curious about that as well. After awhile of adding weighted pull-ups, regardless of what kind, I end getting a grinding, popping thing going on in my shoulders. I wonder if it is even worthwhile to add weight or figure out other ways to make BW pull-ups more effective
 
hairygrandpa said:
I have the gut feeling that pulling exercises, like rowing and chin ups, are less likely to cause injury. Can anyone confirm -or deny this? Is there a study about it?
I could probably live without weighted pull -chin ups but I bought the belt recently, the shiny, precious belt, damn. :)
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I love my shiny pull up belt. So much better than when I used ropes.

You mean pulling exercises like deadlifts?

I would agree that, to a degree, pushing exercises can cause injuries more often. ..but it isn't the nature of the push or pull itself. It is the ability to use momentum.

What we often forget is that if we throw a ball in the air, it decelerates as gravity acts in it, eventually reaches a velocity of 0, and then accelerates back to earth.

When we throw a weight, this same thing happens. Even the slightest momentum will cause the weight to come down with enormous force at some point. We don't consciously recognize it, but essentially we are throwing weight away from us, and then catching it as it falls out of the "sky". This puts enormous impact and sudden force on muscles and joints.

A bench press is a great example of this possibility.

Most pulling exercises actually won't put as much strain in the muscle as it falls because you dont have to "catch" it. For instance, if you use momentum in a bent over row, when it starts to fall ...you don't have to catch it, you just let it fall. With a bench, you can't do that.
 
ryane87 said:
I am kind of curious about that as well. After awhile of adding weighted pull-ups, regardless of what kind, I end getting a grinding, popping thing going on in my shoulders. I wonder if it is even worthwhile to add weight or figure out other ways to make BW pull-ups more effective
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Holding on top 3 seconds comes to my masochistic mind, did them with rest pause sets in the past. Maybe next would be one armed pull ups... hehehe!
 
HIT4ME said:
I love my shiny pull up belt. So much better than when I used ropes.

You mean pulling exercises like deadlifts?

I would agree that, to a degree, pushing exercises can cause injuries more often. ..but it isn't the nature of the push or pull itself. It is the ability to use momentum.

What we often forget is that if we throw a ball in the air, it decelerates as gravity acts in it, eventually reaches a velocity of 0, and then accelerates back to earth.

When we throw a weight, this same thing happens. Even the slightest momentum will cause the weight to come down with enormous force at some point. We don't consciously recognize it, but essentially we are throwing weight away from us, and then catching it as it falls out of the "sky". This puts enormous impact and sudden force on muscles and joints.

A bench press is a great example of this possibility.

Most pulling exercises actually won't put as much strain in the muscle as it falls because you dont have to "catch" it. For instance, if you use momentum in a bent over row, when it starts to fall ...you don't have to catch it, you just let it fall. With a bench, you can't do that.
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What if you control your back movements throughout? I don't perform my rows with momentum because my lower back won't allow it. Slow and controlled on dat negative or I will be laid up for months
 
hairygrandpa said:
I have the gut feeling that pulling exercises, like rowing and chin ups, are less likely to cause injury. Can anyone confirm -or deny this? Is there a study about it?
I could probably live without weighted pull -chin ups but I bought the belt recently, the shiny, precious belt, damn. :)
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I never got an injury pulling. Tore my bicept dead lifting the weight was pulling on my arms does that count?
 
HIT4ME said:
I love my shiny pull up belt. So much better than when I used ropes.

You mean pulling exercises like deadlifts?

I would agree that, to a degree, pushing exercises can cause injuries more often. ..but it isn't the nature of the push or pull itself. It is the ability to use momentum.

What we often forget is that if we throw a ball in the air, it decelerates as gravity acts in it, eventually reaches a velocity of 0, and then accelerates back to earth.

When we throw a weight, this same thing happens. Even the slightest momentum will cause the weight to come down with enormous force at some point. We don't consciously recognize it, but essentially we are throwing weight away from us, and then catching it as it falls out of the "sky". This puts enormous impact and sudden force on muscles and joints.

A bench press is a great example of this possibility.

Most pulling exercises actually won't put as much strain in the muscle as it falls because you dont have to "catch" it. For instance, if you use momentum in a bent over row, when it starts to fall ...you don't have to catch it, you just let it fall. With a bench, you can't do that.
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Well put.
 
HIT4ME said:
I love my shiny pull up belt. So much better than when I used ropes.

You mean pulling exercises like deadlifts?

I would agree that, to a degree, pushing exercises can cause injuries more often. ..but it isn't the nature of the push or pull itself. It is the ability to use momentum.

What we often forget is that if we throw a ball in the air, it decelerates as gravity acts in it, eventually reaches a velocity of 0, and then accelerates back to earth.

When we throw a weight, this same thing happens. Even the slightest momentum will cause the weight to come down with enormous force at some point. We don't consciously recognize it, but essentially we are throwing weight away from us, and then catching it as it falls out of the "sky". This puts enormous impact and sudden force on muscles and joints.

A bench press is a great example of this possibility.

Most pulling exercises actually won't put as much strain in the muscle as it falls because you dont have to "catch" it. For instance, if you use momentum in a bent over row, when it starts to fall ...you don't have to catch it, you just let it fall. With a bench, you can't do that.
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I want shiny belt. Where do I get shiny belt. Must get shiny belt.
 
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Going to have muscles tattooed all over. :)

My bro has two full sleeves and his chest. Insane tats. Going to post son pics later.
 
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Brandinooooo said:
I want shiny belt. Where do I get shiny belt. Must get shiny belt.
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Best belt I've used for weighted pull-ups:

Spud Inc

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ryane87 said:
What if you control your back movements throughout? I don't perform my rows with momentum because my lower back won't allow it. Slow and controlled on dat negative or I will be laid up for months
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I don't think you can injure yourself ever if you are using a weight you can control and in good form. All a muscle does is contract so as long as there are no torquing type forces, impacts, etc. Injurybrisk is pretty low.

And I think the negative should be controlled in every exercise. You should be able to, at any point in the movement, stop and hold the weight. If you can't, then you are using momentum because you have three types of strength - concentric, holding and eccentric. The concentric is the weakest of these three strengths, so if you can't hold the weight still ...then you can't get a concentric contraction without cheating.

Now, if you are training for sports or to lift the most weight in a meet, you need to train for that and that will mean higher risk, explosive training.

Having said all that...you are doing it totally correctly. Which you figured out as a way to reduce injury. My point was exactly that though....IF you are going to use improper form and too heavy a weight and not have control...you are going to see the mist injuries in pushing movements.

The reality is, none of us use perfect form 100% of the time. Practice will make it easier to use good form, but many of us start off too heavy and bad habits become neurologically imprinted and we don't even realize it until someone who knows what is up sees us and points it out ...then we go. "What? I Don't do that, do I?"

When we get injured it is usually a break down in form, and that is often caused by ego. And a lot of times we don't realize there is an injury until a while later when we go to use the muscle and that is when we think it got injured...often it was injured before it started acting up.
 
kenpoengineer said:
Best belt I've used for weighted pull-ups:

Spud Inc

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That belt gets such great reviews. I asked for one for my bday and didn't want to ask for my gf to spend the extra so I just went with the harbinger belt and I am happy with it. Of course I am not doing chins with 100+ pounds on it either.
 
HIT4ME said:
That belt gets such great reviews. I asked for one for my bday and didn't want to ask for my gf to spend the extra so I just went with the harbinger belt and I am happy with it. Of course I am not doing chins with 100+ pounds on it either.
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Agree that it's pricey. You also have to buy the chain and carabiners to complete the setup but, it's something you can pass down to your kids and grandkids. Lol
 
HIT4ME said:
That belt gets such great reviews. I asked for one for my bday and didn't want to ask for my gf to spend the extra so I just went with the harbinger belt and I am happy with it. Of course I am not doing chins with 100+ pounds on it either.
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I have the cheap Harbinger belt, and it works fine with 135lbs on a regular basis.
 
hairygrandpa said:
I have the gut feeling that pulling exercises, like rowing and chin ups, are less likely to cause injury. Can anyone confirm -or deny this? Is there a study about it?
I could probably live without weighted pull -chin ups but I bought the belt recently, the shiny, precious belt, damn. :)
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I think pulling exercises, excepting deadlift, deconpress the joints which massively reduces the likelihood of injury.
 
Saturday, the day of suffering

weighted Chin ups BW 213lbs x45lbs / SS/ leg elevated push ups w. handles TUT 3.1.1
chin 9
push 14
chin 7
push 11
chin 7
push 5 (shoulder felt instable-abort)

cable chest flies to exhaustion upper/middle/low moderate weights, TUT 3.1.1
upper 20
middle 17
low 18
upper 15
middle 13
low 10
upper 11
middle 10
low 10
upper 13
middle 10
low 8
upper 14
middle 8
low 8

cable Oblique twists 2 sets

DB shoulder press 2x40lbs tut 3.1.1
17/14/10 rp 6

DB incline reverse flies 2x20lbs, never to zero, always under tension
25sec /15 sec/15sec

BW Inverted row holding 2 sec on top
12 rp 8 rp 6 rp 6

laying DB triceps extensions kenpoengineer style 2x25lbs
22/16/14/12/8/5

DB biceps concentration curls 40lbs TUT 3.1.1
12 rp 6
10 rp 5
7 rp 4
5 rp 3

-some cuban rotations for rotator cuff
-some leg extensions and leg curls
-no time for cardio :(
 
i get the towel, but the cap? have a gender crisis are we


lmao
 
That shower cap just adds to the delightfulness
 
hairygrandpa said:
I gave up OTC supplements, tried it all to no avail. TB-500 helped after 3 weeks but I used it all up. Have a new order on it's way, will take it longer to see if knees improve further. Have also CJC1295 With DAC coming. Sources cite that it's the best for overall healing due to his long half life. I'm full into the "dark stuff". Will keep posting what I find out.
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I had my doc make me an appointment with an ortho, only problem is the appointment won't be until January...good thing the VA is on top of things, lol.
 
You can't name a street after Chuck Norris because no one crosses Chuck Norris and lives
 
Chuck Norris tears cure cancer. The only problem is Chuck Norris never cries
 
SFreed said:
Sorry to spoil the fun.....

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The only poster I have ever had on a wall in my ENTIRE life was a Bruce Lee poster
 
muscleupcrohn said:
I have the cheap Harbinger belt, and it works fine with 135lbs on a regular basis.
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Mmmmm...if I can ever do pull ups or dips with 3 friggin plates I will be happy to hear this.

hairygrandpa said:
WTH? 135lbs... :11:
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Yeah, right? Gee. Zus.

SFreed said:
I was the same way. And he said it like it was no big deal!
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Yeah, nothing big at all.

hairygrandpa said:
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I was thinking. WTH do you need the cap for? You are bald!

muscleupcrohn said:
Chuck Norris can strangle you with a cordless phone.

There are no Bruce Lee jokes, because Bruce Lee is no joke.
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To be honest, I don't know why there are so many Chuck Norris jokes. The guy isn't even very smart.

Did you know that Chuck Norris REFUSES to believe in modern chemistry and does not even believe in there periodic table?


Yeah, the only element he will acknowledge is the element of surprise .
 
Speaking of which. I hope HGP isn't about to use the element if surprise with that friggin towel.
 
He's got that look in his eyes, doesn't he. Here comes the Full Monty
 
HIT4ME said:
Mmmmm...if I can ever do pull ups or dips with 3 friggin plates I will be happy to hear this.



Yeah, right? Gee. Zus.



Yeah, nothing big at all.



I was thinking. WTH do you need the cap for? You are bald!



To be honest, I don't know why there are so many Chuck Norris jokes. The guy isn't even very smart.

Did you know that Chuck Norris REFUSES to believe in modern chemistry and does not even believe in there periodic table?


Yeah, the only element he will acknowledge is the element of surprise .
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I've heard that one before, but never with a set-up that great. Bravo.
 
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