Hairygrandpas log, fat- and older people welcome!- diet, training, cycles, healing

Famine said:
Man, don't say you're too old! I'm only 8 years behind you! I have so much to achieve still...but damn...I keep hurting myself...and the body just doesn't heal like it did when it was 30.
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Likewise.
hairygrandpa I've been minimally active on the board the past while, how are things going and what's your protocol/current cycle like atm? Everything going well in regards to healing/injuries etc?
 
Gutterpump said:
hairygrandpa I've been minimally active on the board the past while, how are things going and what's your protocol/current cycle like atm? Everything going well in regards to healing/injuries etc?
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I figured that my metabolism is so low, I can build muscle on 2800 kcal at currently 220lbs BW. That explaines why my cut turned into a recomp before.
Now that I'm up 2lbs, I will go with 3000 kcal from now on.

Deca did not heal my knees, other members were right on this. Currently I'm looking into peptides for joint issues but have not tried them yet.

I'm still on 250mg test-e and 300mg Deca x week cruising until my BF is around 12-14%.
Will drop Deca in a few weeks to see if some of my chubbiness is water.

My newest problem:
I developed a allergy to latex, getting a bad rash from my wrist straps (the neoprene padding). Still figuring out what to do about this...
 
I just watched 4 of his videos. Awesome. Love the harry chest pose at the end of the arm workout video, lol.
 
even this guy is getting in on the gains- those of us old enough know who this LMAO is

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Famine said:
I just watched 4 of his videos. Awesome. Love the harry chest pose at the end of the arm workout video, lol.
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I really like this guy! His nutrition video will influence my eating habit for sure. Today I'm trying his shoulder workout advise.
I mean LOOK at his damn shoulders, he should know how to work them properly.
 
Shoulders/retouching Arms

Shoulder press machine
130lbs x 5
110lbs x9
115lbs x6
110x8 drop
80x7 drop
70x8

DB seated rear delt rises Seth Feroce style
palms facing:
2x33lbs x17/2x38.5lbs x11
pinky outside:
2x38.5lbs x11/10
pinky outside grip outside:
2x38.5lbs x10/10
2x27.5lbs slow motion x12

DB standing lateral rises Seth Feroce style
slightly inclined:
2x22lbs 14/12
straight:
2x22lbs 12
2x27.5lbs 10/10
outside grip:
2x22lbs 9/10

shoulder press machine (again)
110lbs x6
90lbs x9
95lbs x7

Standing inclined rear delt rises Seth Feroce style
pinky out:
2x33lbs x14
2x38.5lbs x8
palms facing:
2x38.5lbs x10/8

-lot of biceps curling and triceps extensions Seth's style on cables

Major breakthrough for me.
Shoulders are pumped and burning. Never hit my shoulders as hard as today, thanks to Seth's "how to" videos.
 
CJNator said:
BPC 157 was mentioned by someone a little bit ago on another thread!
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Researching joint repair as well. BPC-157, Equipoise,1 to 2 units of HGH.
 
kenpoengineer said:
Researching joint repair as well. BPC-157, Equipoise,1 to 2 units of HGH.
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As Deca did not live up to my expectations, I guess Equipoise wouldn't help neither. HGH I can't get where I live.
NPP worked well for a while but pinning every 2 days got on my nerves.
My hope lies on BPC-157.

I dumped all Cissus, Glucosamine, Celadrin and Eggshell powders, never noticed any benefit from them.
 
Late to the party, but following along now :)

Awesome progress pictures on the first post. Really impressive!

I did not see if you listed your age, if that is not too personal a question? Thanks!
 
Sparkss said:
Late to the party, but following along now :)

Awesome progress pictures on the first post. Really impressive!

I did not see if you listed your age, if that is not too personal a question? Thanks!
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Welcome Sparkss! I'm 48.

Saw your post about your shoulder trouble, welcome to the cripple-club!

My achievements so far:

-Gold medal for two fugged up knees
-Silver medal for one rebellious shoulder
-honorable mention for two achy forearms (currently working)
-newest achievement: latex allergy (rash after using wrist straps)
 
yea, "cripple-club" about sums up how I feel :) The sad part is that my "good shoulder" creaks and pops more than my "bad" shoulder these days *sigh* So much compensating for my surgery shoulder has taken its toll. :)

We are also the same age (I turn 49 in early July), although you appear to live a much richer life! (color me envious :D).

For "achievements", not sure if I say this right, but in addition to the full rotator cuff tear I shredded all tendons in my shoulder and bisected my bicep. I fell down a full flight of stairs (at home, not paying enough attention, no one to blame but myself). That last "injury" makes any arm/curling exercises a bit nerve wracking. But it has been almost 2 years already and the muscle "should" be re-attached by now.

Anyways, not my thread, no one is coming here to hear about me and my woes LOL :D

Thanks for posting after my post in that other thread, it helped me to locate this awesome thread!
 
Sparkss said:
yea, "cripple-club" about sums up how I feel :) The sad part is that my "good shoulder" creaks and pops more than my "bad" shoulder these days *sigh* So much compensating for my surgery shoulder has taken its toll. :)

We are also the same age (I turn 49 in early July), although you appear to live a much richer life! (color me envious :D).

For "achievements", not sure if I say this right, but in addition to the full rotator cuff tear I shredded all tendons in my shoulder and bisected my bicep. I fell down a full flight of stairs (at home, not paying enough attention, no one to blame but myself). That last "injury" makes any arm/curling exercises a bit nerve wracking. But it has been almost 2 years already and the muscle "should" be re-attached by now.

Anyways, not my thread, no one is coming here to hear about me and my woes LOL :D

Thanks for posting after my post in that other thread, it helped me to locate this awesome thread!
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Hearing about your problems makes me feel better already... :twisted: It seems after 45 nothing heals anymore and gets chronic.
In a few weeks I will try BPC-157 and log it, hopefully my experience will be of help for your problems too.

As for my injuries, I work "around" them, doing bicycle and stairmaster instead of squats -or using machines for shoulder press and bench press.
You mentioned that you use DB reverse presses for chest, I do them too and -oddly enough, they don't hurt my shoulder.

Have you ever tried "Occlusion Training" for your curls? I can imagine it will work, because you use low weights and supposedly gain muscles with that.

Feel free to "high jack" this log any time, it gives us insight to new things.
 
Sparkss said:
yea, "cripple-club" about sums up how I feel :) The sad part is that my "good shoulder" creaks and pops more than my "bad" shoulder these days *sigh* So much compensating for my surgery shoulder has taken its toll. :)

We are also the same age (I turn 49 in early July), although you appear to live a much richer life! (color me envious :D).

For "achievements", not sure if I say this right, but in addition to the full rotator cuff tear I shredded all tendons in my shoulder and bisected my bicep. I fell down a full flight of stairs (at home, not paying enough attention, no one to blame but myself). That last "injury" makes any arm/curling exercises a bit nerve wracking. But it has been almost 2 years already and the muscle "should" be re-attached by now.

Anyways, not my thread, no one is coming here to hear about me and my woes LOL :D

Thanks for posting after my post in that other thread, it helped me to locate this awesome thread!
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dont worry, he isnt lifting anymore anyway. all of the daily updates are done by an automated program.

so what did you do for dinner
 
Famine said:
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Well...it's close.:laugh:
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Super close. I was thinking that when I first saw the Grizzly Adams picture, how much it looked like one of the Bee Gees. Boyo are we dating ourselves in this thread!!! :D
 
hairygrandpa said:
Hearing about your problems makes me feel better already... :twisted:
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Glad I could help ?!?!? :D

Was 45 when things stopped healing? I lost track of when that change took place LOL :)

hairygrandpa said:
In a few weeks I will try BPC-157 and log it, hopefully my experience will be of help for your problems too.
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I look forward to your log of that. I am 2 weeks out from a follow up appointment for possibly starting TRT treatment (scheduled to have the blood work done first of next week). So I have some time before I start/try anything else as I want to run TRT for a while by itself to better know how my body will react. So your log will have perfect timing :)

hairygrandpa said:
As for my injuries, I work "around" them, doing bicycle and stairmaster instead of squats -or using machines for shoulder press and bench press.
You mentioned that you use DB reverse presses for chest, I do them too and -oddly enough, they don't hurt my shoulder.
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Yea, I have to modify my workout for any number of "ailments" these days.

hairygrandpa said:
Have you ever tried "Occlusion Training" for your curls? I can imagine it will work, because you use low weights and supposedly gain muscles with that..
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I will look into that. I have built up the weights over the last couple of months back in the gym. But that is always in the back of my mind. Before I went through PT for the surgery I was completely immobilized. I was told that I could not lift more than 2.5 (or was it 5) lbs with my arm (until after the recovery period) because that was all the screws that held my bicep to the back of my shoulder blade were rated for and the bicep would snap and "roll up" down in the crook of my elbow *EEEEK*. I still have to wonder about "wear and tear" on the top of the bicep. They had to completely detach it where it came over the top of the shoulder, drill a hole in my shoulder blade, thread the bicep through and tack it with 2 screws to the back of the shoulder blade. I often wonder if they put some sort of "bushing" so that the muscle was not riding over a rough edge, etc. (yea, I have some weird, obsessive thoughts *uugghh*).

smith_69 said:
so what did you do for dinner
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You quoted me, but somehow I think that your question was directed at HG :)

But since you asked, tonight was just baked chicken wings w/ light buffalo sauce. Not really great, but not a ton of carbs either :).
 
Sparkss said:
I will look into that. I have built up the weights over the last couple of months back in the gym. But that is always in the back of my mind. Before I went through PT for the surgery I was completely immobilized. I was told that I could not lift more than 2.5 (or was it 5) lbs with my arm (until after the recovery period) because that was all the screws that held my bicep to the back of my shoulder blade were rated for and the bicep would snap and "roll up" down in the crook of my elbow *EEEEK*. I still have to wonder about "wear and tear" on the top of the bicep. They had to completely detach it where it came over the top of the shoulder, drill a hole in my shoulder blade, thread the bicep through and tack it with 2 screws to the back of the shoulder blade. I often wonder if they put some sort of "bushing" so that the muscle was not riding over a rough edge, etc. (yea, I have some weird, obsessive thoughts *uugghh*).
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Damn, this sounds really nasty.
You fell down the stairs? Will remember that and take the elevator from now on, LOL
Good to see you are back on track. The day you try occlusion, please do a log with measurements and progress pics, can't find anywhere info about how much size gain is possible and in what time frame.
 
Back/Chest

Pull ups parallel grip
9/8/8

BB Bent over row
265lbs x5 (more for show, terrible form)
200lbs x10/10

seated row reverse grip
170lbs x10
185lbs x10
200lbs x10

one armed shrugs smith machine
155lbs x8 (almost sh1t myself doing them)
132lbs x10/10

DB pullover
88lbs x9/8/6

cable flies 2x40lbs
14/12/12

At home some strongman keg carry: (from the fridge to the mirror and back)

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Will finish chest tomorrow on arms day.
 
Is that the German version of the Farmers Carry exercise? :D
 
Merciless Arms Slaughter Event

First I had to finish chest, -came a bit short yesterday:

Reverse DB bench press
2x66lbs (2x30kg)
Flat:10/10
Inclined:6/7
Flat:8/5

Cable low crossover
2x36lbs x 15
2x47lbs x 13
2x52lbs x 10/8
2x63lbs x 7
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Triceps press machine "life fitness"
285 lbs x3 (PR)
210 lbs x13
220 lbs x10

Biceps curl machine "life fitness"
143 lbs x12
165 lbs x6
154 lbs x8

Triceps push down inclined bar (bent forward)
63 lbs x 20
80 lbs x 10
85 lbs x 10

Cable triceps one armed extensions
25 lbs x 11/9/11

Standing double DB behind head triceps extensions
2x 33lbs x9/8/8

DB Biceps curls
2x55 lbs x5
2x44 lbs x7/6

Hammer DB curls standing
2x38 lbs/ 12/10/14

Triceps push down bar (straight)
70 lbs x 20
75 lbs x 14/12

Insane pumps, will eat a horse when coming home.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Back/Chest

Pull ups parallel grip
9/8/8

BB Bent over row
265lbs x5 (more for show, terrible form)
200lbs x10/10

seated row reverse grip
170lbs x10
185lbs x10
200lbs x10

one armed shrugs smith machine
155lbs x8 (almost sh1t myself doing them)
132lbs x10/10

DB pullover
88lbs x9/8/6

cable flies 2x40lbs
14/12/12

At home some strongman keg carry: (from the fridge to the mirror and back)

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Will finish chest tomorrow on arms day.
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The goofy smile is necessary to maximize gains! :laugh:
 
Chest/Back all with rest pause set after 10 sec. pause (RP)

Chin ups
13 RP 2
8 RP 3
7 RP 3

Seated row 255 lbs
7 RP 3
7 RP 3
7 RP 3

Lat pull down 220 lbs
9 RP 3
8 RP 3
7 RP 1

Chest Press machine 200 lbs
7 RP 2 <----abort, pain in shoulder

switched to cable crossover
used different weights:
low: 12 RP 4/12 RP 5/ 12 RP 6
middle: 11 RP 5/12 RP 5/ 7 RP 4
high: 11 RP 4/10 RP 4/ 8 RP 4

Incline press machine 230 lbs
7 RP 3 <-- shoulder felt weird, abort

switched to cable crossover, again
used different weights:
low: 10 RP 5/10 RP 5/ 8 RP 4
middle: 12 RP 5/11 RP 5/ 9 RP 3
high: 9 RP 4/8 RP 4/ 8 RP 2

stairmaster 7 min

Total: 58 sets
 
Famine said:
Cable crossovers is one of 2 machines I wish I had in my home gym.
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They saved my workout, shoulder said no to presses.
I'm still working on the mind-muscle connection to really hit my chest. Cables are good for trying different angles.
 
Famine said:
Cable crossovers is one of 2 machines I wish I had in my home gym.
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I also workout out of my home gym. Have you tried the Cavaliere Crossover? Invalid Link Removed
It is what I use (started 2 weeks ago) and find it pretty effective, once you get the form down.

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I only have a set of powerblocks, even though I have a PB straight bar, it does not work for most of the chest exercises in that video (just the close grip pushup one, which is also pretty good).
 
Sparkss said:
I also workout out of my home gym. Have you tried the Cavaliere Crossover? Invalid Link Removed
It is what I use (started 2 weeks ago) and find it pretty effective, once you get the form down.

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I only have a set of powerblocks, even though I have a PB straight bar, it does not work for most of the chest exercises in that video (just the close grip pushup one, which is also pretty good).
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Hey, I'm subbed to his videos too! Will try the first one, the second one hurts my shoulders only watching it, LOL. Thanks for the input!
 
Shoulders

seated rear delt rises Seth Feroce style
palms facing:
2x38.5lbs x19/14
pinky outside:
2x38.5lbs x10/9
pinky outside grip outside:
2x38.5lbs x10/9

Standing DB inclined rear delt rises Seth Feroce style 2x 44lbs
palms facing:
x10/11
pinky out:
x 8/9
pinky out grip outside:
x 8/9

DB shrugs 2x88 lbs (40kg)
25/22/20/18

DB standing lateral rises Seth Feroce style 2x 27.5lbs
slightly bent palms facing:
x 11/12
slightly bent palms facing, grip outside:
x 8/11
straight, palms facing:
x 13/10
straight, palms facing grip outside:
x 10/10

one armed shrugs smith machine
132lbs x 8/10/10

Front rises Seth Feroce style 2x27.5lbs
diagonal: 13/10
straight: 10/10
outside: 10/10
hammer straight:11/9

5 min stairmaster

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You sir are getting stronger! Impressive volume as well. Nice job!
 
hairygrandpa said:
Hey, I'm subbed to his videos too! Will try the first one, the second one hurts my shoulders only watching it, LOL. Thanks for the input!
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He has some great exercises geared towards home-gym users. Really interesting ways to hit the muscles at the right angles without needing a ton of equipment. I actually paid for his body weight exercise program (called zero, for the amount of equipment required) some time back, but just use it to refer to for different exercises.

To workout enough to make a "difference" we need to be creative when working out of a "limited" home gym and also dealing with shoulder issues and other injuries. So I am always looking for new exercises to try out, and happy to share any that "work" for me. :D

I have a set of powerblocks, a PB straightbar, a small incline/decline bench and a month or two back added a roman chair that can reverse and double as a preachers curl. I just picked up a close grip row handle to use for the landmine rows (today will be the first day using it). I also have a recumbent elliptical for cardio and an inversion table. The latter is for bulging lower discs (per an MRI) as for why the ellipcital is recumbent. More reasons to be creative with my exercise routines and not always able to do the mainstream exercises that everyone else can do.

And for anyone thinking I live in a mansion with room for all of those pieces, the bench, roman chair and inversion table all fold and store away with a very small footprint. :) LOL
 
hairygrandpa said:
Seth videos for shoulders:
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Awesome videos . Some good variations. I currently have trouble hitting the shoulders good enough, but some of his variations look like they could help people with similar injuries as mine. Much appreciated.

I actually do some of his suggestions already (like the front raises while laying forward on an incline bench). Can't wait to try the rest of them out :)

Have you tried the anti-gravity press before? It is really hard to get the form down to feel/focus the contraction in the shoulders (IMO)

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Sparkss said:
He has some great exercises geared towards home-gym users. Really interesting ways to hit the muscles at the right angles without needing a ton of equipment. I actually paid for his body weight exercise program (called zero, for the amount of equipment required) some time back, but just use it to refer to for different exercises.

To workout enough to make a "difference" we need to be creative when working out of a "limited" home gym and also dealing with shoulder issues and other injuries. So I am always looking for new exercises to try out, and happy to share any that "work" for me. :D

I have a set of powerblocks, a PB straightbar, a small incline/decline bench and a month or two back added a roman chair that can reverse and double as a preachers curl. I just picked up a close grip row handle to use for the landmine rows (today will be the first day using it). I also have a recumbent elliptical for cardio and an inversion table. The latter is for bulging lower discs (per an MRI) as for why the ellipcital is recumbent. More reasons to be creative with my exercise routines and not always able to do the mainstream exercises that everyone else can do.

And for anyone thinking I live in a mansion with room for all of those pieces, the bench, roman chair and inversion table all fold and store away with a very small footprint. :) LOL
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oh please- hairygrandpa every one of his sets always include something with him sitting down, LAAAAzzzy
 
Sparkss said:
He has some great exercises geared towards home-gym users. Really interesting ways to hit the muscles at the right angles without needing a ton of equipment. I actually paid for his body weight exercise program (called zero, for the amount of equipment required) some time back, but just use it to refer to for different exercises.

To workout enough to make a "difference" we need to be creative when working out of a "limited" home gym and also dealing with shoulder issues and other injuries. So I am always looking for new exercises to try out, and happy to share any that "work" for me. :D

I have a set of powerblocks, a PB straightbar, a small incline/decline bench and a month or two back added a roman chair that can reverse and double as a preachers curl. I just picked up a close grip row handle to use for the landmine rows (today will be the first day using it). I also have a recumbent elliptical for cardio and an inversion table. The latter is for bulging lower discs (per an MRI) as for why the ellipcital is recumbent. More reasons to be creative with my exercise routines and not always able to do the mainstream exercises that everyone else can do.

And for anyone thinking I live in a mansion with room for all of those pieces, the bench, roman chair and inversion table all fold and store away with a very small footprint. :) LOL
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I admire people who can workout all alone, personally, I can't do it.
I guess it's a ritual for me to dress, fill my gym bag with belts and straps and walk to the gym, you know, like rituals that smokers have, such as searching for the lighter, getting the cigarette out and afterwards stepping on the bud, if the comparison makes sense.
Four years ago, I bought some DB's , an elliptical and a rowing machine (like boat rowing) and never used them.

Sparkss said:
Awesome videos . Some good variations. I currently have trouble hitting the shoulders good enough, but some of his variations look like they could help people with similar injuries as mine. Much appreciated.

I actually do some of his suggestions already (like the front raises while laying forward on an incline bench). Can't wait to try the rest of them out :)

Have you tried the anti-gravity press before? It is really hard to get the form down to feel/focus the contraction in the shoulders (IMO)

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Thinking about it, I now believe my shoulder trouble came from bad form, like lifting the arms too high. Since I do Seth's form, I felt no pain and the pump is awesome! Like he said, it's about inches to get it right.
The anti-gravity press looks nasty, LOL Will try it next week with the alu-bar only and report back.

kenpoengineer said:
You sir are getting stronger! Impressive volume as well. Nice job!
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Thank you, sensei!
Yes! Strength is going up since I changed the diet. Will go for volume again with lesser weights for fear of injury.

smith_69 said:
oh please- hairygrandpa every one of his sets always include something with him sitting down, LAAAAzzzy
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Currently working on new exercises like: seated pull ups, seated deadlift and seated push ups.

Hehehe!
 
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