No, you can continue with your cycle.jp122 said:I noticed the lump in my puberty years which I believed attributed to my two rockets under my shirt. Even when I am really lean there is the puffiness and the lump. I never new much about it until I got on the boards and everything that was written about gyn especially puberty gyno was me. I still fight the battle of pulling at my shirts and wearing two shirts so my tits dont show through. I ordered some tomaxifen yesterday so I will try it. I am taking 1 test cyp now so should I get off of it while I do the tamox. Input would be greatly appreciated.
ED is short for everyday.jp122 said:OK Im a newb. Whats ED
Yeah I would definitely give it some time..but it really sounds good if you are only 2 weeks in and starting to see results! :thumbsup:Bigfishy said:I bought a 3 month supply of raloxifene for fatty puberty gyno. I am two weeks into it, and I have already started to see a bit of titty reduction. No miracles yet but if reduction continues at this rate for the next 2.5 months I would be throughly satisfied.
There should be made a sticky somewhere. I read a topic like this here and on avant at least once a monthjp122 said:Hey everybody I have had gyno since puberty but I would like to go
the non surgical route. I have read in some artilces about taking letrozole or
tamoxifen for this and it can shrink the gyno. What would you recommend? Because
It sucks having puffy tities.
Thats a good idea Syr...don't forget to add Raloxifene.Syr said:There should be made a sticky somewhere. I read a topic like this here and on avant at least once a month
Best non surgical routes:
1) Tamoxifen in high dose for a long period of time (start at 80 or 60mg and lower gradually)
2) DHT topical (androgel). 3aa put in lipoderm ultra is a cheaper alternative.
3) Exemestane and Rebound XT seems to work very well as a post-tamox therapy.
Oh yes!Neuromancer said:Thats a good idea Syr...don't forget to add Raloxifene.![]()
Only place I know of is online pharmacies, if you are willing to go that route. Although I have said something to Custom about seeing if he can carry it...I know it really wouldn't be a hard sell around here.Syr said:Oh yes!
But where is available (in a non prescription form)?
Its already HARD to find a doc who will prescribe Nolva for gyno...
Would it be effective to use option 1 and option 2 at the same time?Syr said:There should be made a sticky somewhere. I read a topic like this here and on avant at least once a month
Best non surgical routes:
1) Tamoxifen in high dose for a long period of time (start at 80 or 60mg and lower gradually)
2) DHT topical (androgel). 3aa put in lipoderm ultra is a cheaper alternative.
3) Exemestane and Rebound XT seems to work very well as a post-tamox therapy.
hmm... on Avant site they say that lipoderm ultra is better because it allows a more local delivery.Grant said:3aa will not work in lipoderm, use absolved instead, it is the proper carrier.
Uhm, no. Lipoderm is a thermogenic and is for SAT (subcutaneous fat). Ab-solved is a metabolite of 7-oxo-DHEA, its a cortisol antagonist and helps reducing VAT (visceral fat, which is typical in some men phenotypes).darius said:I thought Lipoderm was "water loving" and Ab-Solved was "fat loving" therefore it was better to use Ab-Solved. I dunno tho.
Syr said:Ab-solved is a metabolite of 7-oxo-DHEA, its a cortisol antagonist and helps reducing VAT (visceral fat, which is typical in some men phenotypes).
oopsGrant said:Absolved is not a metabolite of 7-oxo-DHEA, it is 7-oxo-DHEA in a local carrier. 7oxo is a metabolite of DHEA.
Dammit, i cant find anymore those thread on AL. Probably is too old.Grant said:Actully, Lipoderm is the wrong carrier, it will not work with lipophilic substances (like 3aa, 4ad, 1 test, 7oxo, 6oxo......) That is why you need absolved. Lipoderm Ultra may be better at working on SAT, but adding 3aa to it will not help at all with gyno, as it will not be carried in the carrier. The issue here is not whether or not which one is better for fat burning, the issue is that 3aa will only work in absolved, and if you believe in 3aa for the reduction of gyno / want to try 3aa for gyno, then you can only use absolved if you want local delievery. (You could also make your own carrier, or use Avant Gel #3 if you can find it)