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Unanswered Gyno sans anabolics

NGtrains

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So I was a fat kid growing up until I changed how I ate and dropped it all when I was 14. I wasn’t morbidly obese ever I don’t think, but I could lick my own titty lol.

Anyways fast forward to now, 15 years later. I’ve been working out and eating mostly well throughout. I’ve looked like a big ass dude all the way to having veins in my abs at 175. All natty. Just started my first cycle of anything with LGD.

Throughout this whole time my chest has never been flat. And while I’ve had plenty of people tell me I look totally normal and there really is no way of ever telling I was fat.

To me, my chest does. While it’s probably only in my head and it certainly isn’t crazy noticeable. My nips are like puffy, is the best way to describe it. Even when lean enough to see sinews while flexing, nips still there.

Anyone have this same thing going on? Is the only way around it surgery?

This affects me drastically less than it did while I was younger. There were years where all day I was tugging on the front of my shirt trying to make my nips less noticeable. Now I don’t give a **** and walk around shirtless probably too much lol. Like I said I know I look normal, but my chest could definitely be flatter.

Sorry for the rant, just kind of went with it lol
 
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Wow... your toilet is way too close to your tooth brush hahaha. Hard to tell with the pecs, they do like gyno-ish, but you are carrying a bit of bf% too be honest. Drop 5-8% to get a better idea.
 
Yeah, I am the same way, but as you drop bf, it will go away. Mine has been dropping slowly
 
Sparta12 said:
Wow... your toilet is way too close to your tooth brush hahaha. Hard to tell with the pecs, they do like gyno-ish, but you are carrying a bit of bf% too be honest. Drop 5-8% to get a better idea.
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Lmao. It’s the downstairs bathroom. I am thicc atm and this was after my biggest meal with no flexing or contracting to get the full story(throw as many excuses as possible out there lol) Was running a cut prior to the LGD, but didnt wanna be in a deficit for it. But I assure you my chest looks close the same when I’m leaner.
 
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You can see mine are the same bht its going away as I drop BFInvalid Link Removed
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I’m thinking I just have pointy nips and I just gotta deal. I can def see that yours will go away. But like right under my Nipple there’s fat there that makes it pointy.
 
NGtrains said:
So I was a fat kid growing up until I changed how I ate and dropped it all when I was 14. I wasn’t morbidly obese ever I don’t think, but I could lick my own titty lol.

Anyways fast forward to now, 15 years later. I’ve been working out and eating mostly well throughout. I’ve looked like a big ass dude all the way to having veins in my abs at 175. All natty. Just started my first cycle of anything with LGD.

Throughout this whole time my chest has never been flat. And while I’ve had plenty of people tell me I look totally normal and there really is no way of ever telling I was fat.

To me, my chest does. While it’s probably only in my head and it certainly isn’t crazy noticeable. My nips are like puffy, is the best way to describe it. Even when lean enough to see sinews while flexing, nips still there.

Anyone have this same thing going on? Is the only way around it surgery?

This affects me drastically less than it did while I was younger. There were years where all day I was tugging on the front of my shirt trying to make my nips less noticeable. Now I don’t give a **** and walk around shirtless probably too much lol. Like I said I know I look normal, but my chest could definitely be flatter.

Sorry for the rant, just kind of went with it lol
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Dang bro....


Be honest......


How'd it taste?
 
Lose some bf first and then you’ll be able to really tell if you have something going on or if it’s just fat. Gyno is pretty much fat lumped together with fibrous tissue and lots of estrogen receptors.
 
My milk shake brings all the boys to the yard. And again I’ve been very lean before. Finally gained mass once I let that go
 
NGtrains said:
like I said I’ve been lean as ****. I’m 215 rn, but at 175 I was ripped. Chesticles still there.
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Looks/sounds like you have estrogenic fat storage pattern in your chest.

I have had the same problem, since puberty.

I'd try raloxifene at 60mg ed for a few months, while cutting, along with a localized fat loss transdermal.
 
Colin said:
Looks/sounds like you have estrogenic fat storage pattern in your chest.

I have had the same problem, since puberty.

I'd try raloxifene at 60mg ed for a few months, while cutting, along with a localized fat loss transdermal.
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I have nolva and tamoxifen right now. I’m not 100% sure what class Ralox falls into, but whichever it is, would either of these suffice? Don’t know if it’s an AI or a SERM to clarify
 
NGtrains said:
I have nolva and tamoxifen right now. I’m not 100% sure what class Ralox falls into, but whichever it is, would either of these suffice? Don’t know if it’s an AI or a SERM to clarify
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Nolva is Tamox (a SERM) Brother.

Ralox is also a SERM.
 
NGtrains said:
I have nolva and tamoxifen right now. I’m not 100% sure what class Ralox falls into, but whichever it is, would either of these suffice? Don’t know if it’s an AI or a SERM to clarify
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This explains pretty much everything you'te asking about, in detail.

But ,tbh, i would not bank on anything treating pubertal induced gyno, by itself. More likely requires surgery, but I'd try a drug treatment and something like eviscerate's tooocal fat loss TD (and ehile cutting, you have to be in a cal deficit for localized fat loss).

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Colin said:
This explains pretty much everything you'te asking about, in detail.

But ,tbh, i would not bank on anything treating pubertal induced gyno, by itself. More likely requires surgery, but I'd try a drug treatment and something like eviscerate's tooocal fat loss TD (and ehile cutting, you have to be in a cal deficit for localized fat loss).

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I’ll do that after this cycle. Excited to see what’s underneath after the cut.

But as you said, it’s more likely the surgery route if i really want it gone. I passed the insecurity a long time ago, I’d just like to look better at this point.
 
NGtrains said:
I’ll do that after this cycle. Excited to see what’s underneath after the cut.

But as you said, it’s more likely the surgery route if i really want it gone. I passed the insecurity a long time ago, I’d just like to look better at this point.
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Yeah, i hear you. But also, I would def use ralox or nolva on cycle, either way.
 
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