GREETINGS TO ALRI PEOPLE!!!
- Thread starter BKneller
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Author L. Rea
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Thank you for the reply lad. Truth is that most drama in our industry is sadly initiated or fueled by competing company owners or reps. It is like anti-advertising and so easily done. So please do not feel you are an idiot for being caught up in croud hesteria.Ghosting said:I read a few posts in this thread and was like ALRI has a conspiracy to sell us bogus E Max. I should know better. I fully admit to being an idiot.Victim of the industry gossip.
On another note, please be aware that there really are several very good companies in our industry that honestly want to do nothing but good business and share the passion of their customers for progress. I personally know of several.
SilentScream27
Member
so why did "everybody" (barring statistical outliers) gain 10-20lbs on their ergomax cycles in 4 weeks, with 5-10 lbs in the first week, but all the logs with e...max don't show "anybody" (there could be someone, but out of the 20+ reviews I've seen there have been none) gaining that much weight, or reporting the same effects on libido in the same time-frame?
I am sincerely curious in the answer to this question. I will be buying e...max or phera-plex next month, and the answer to the above question will help me determine what purchase I should make.
I am sincerely curious in the answer to this question. I will be buying e...max or phera-plex next month, and the answer to the above question will help me determine what purchase I should make.
cpa5oh
Member
Alright now...I'm the one that posted I'd been taking the product for 5 days, have gained 2 pounds (I didn't use the word "only,") and that my strength hasn't gone up. And I'm also the guy that hits bodyparts two or three times per week. So I'm ASSuming this post was directed at least in part at me (which might make me an ASS.)Dungeon1 said:
First off, I want no parts in the bashing of ALRI. I think if you re-read my post you'll note that I did say something to the effect of "it is too early to tell anything." I don't know if you've read my "Max LMG experience" thread, but I basically started the "log" at the end of the fifth WEEK because I wanted to be fair about the product. In reviewing my workout spreadsheet for that Max LMG cycle, I got NO strength gains throughout the first week (though I did gain a few pounds.) I ended up putting 90 pounds on my 10 rep squat max and 35 on my 10 rep bench press max over eight weeks. I kept all but one repetition of strength with the higher weights on both the squat and the bench press after the four week PCT. I raved about the product throughout that thread. ****, I work out at home and ended up having to buy two new 45 lb. plates just to be able to workout with the weights I'm now using.
So I know damn well that this deal is going to take more than 5 days to show me something. I guess what I was doing by posting what was starting to go on record with my E...Max LMG experience. I may have added to the "this stuff isn't working" hysteria but that was not my intention AT ALL. Perhaps I should have just kept my mouth and keyboard quiet until week five as I did with Max LMG.
As for my workout...I go with what works best for me which is low volume, higher intensity, and hitting bodyparts more often than most do. I squat and I deadlift...so I'm not one of these "hit chest every day and don't enter the squat cage" kind of guys.
I'm all about ALRI and I don't want to be put into that group that is bashing ALR and his products.
BTW, today will be day 7 and I'm up to 227 lbs (my highest weight ever) which is up from 222 the morning of day one. So now it has been six days and I'm up 5 lbs. I didn't work out last night so I won't know if the strength gains have/will begin to show this early until tonight's workout. Once I have a feel for the product (probably week 5) I'll post a "My E...Max LMG experience" thread right here.
jazzyd
New member
E max is or isn't the same as ErgoMax
If I jumped the gun , shoot me.. but before you pull the trigger , tell me why the "product description" on the Proflex Sports.com website say that to get the same results as the original Ergomax, you need to take 3 25mg/daily of E Max compared to 2 10mg daily with the original ErgomaxRAVEN said:
not_big_enuf
Registered User
That's because you're looking at MAX LMG.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :frustrate
GRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :frustrate
jazzyd said:
SilentScream27
Member
I personally wasn't bashing, but was only looking at the large discrepancies between what was said to be the effects of Ergomax and what is being said about the effects of E...Max. If you are saying that the effects of Ergomax (libido, strength) start to kick in much later in the cycle, and this is the reason E...Max doesn't seem to be the same at the moment, then I'll wait and watch for 1-2 more weeks.RAVEN said:
BKneller
Banned
Hey guys,
I just wanted to clear something up 'for the record' as I guess at another
board there exists some controversy (albeit, I have no idea why as I do not
frequent this other board, don't like the owner/administrator and can't understand
their morbid fascination with every little thing I do or they 'think' I do) as to whom
I work for. Do I work for Author/ALRI or Rich/Gaspari Nutrition or both?
Answer (in no uncertain terms) - I work for myself and work WITH Author/ALRI and
Rich/Gaspari Nutrition sometimes jointly, sometimes independently of one another.
I'd also like to tell you that I have contracts and work WITH 2 other supplement companies
and in about 6-8 weeks there is going to be a real shocker when people see that I have
teamed up with an industry giant to do design work.
The way I look at it is simple: I will work with anyone who is genuinely interested in furthering
the safety and efficacy of the supplement market, irrespective of the name of the company they
work for or their title at said company. I seek to establish alliances, I truly think that "part of something
is better than all of nothing".
When Author asked if I would be interested in working with him I was very excited because I had read
CME, liked the book a lot and thought he was a bright, genuine guy with a lot of talent for seeing things
in a different light. I had no idea what ALRI was (yeah, so I am stupid somethimes, "Author L. Rea Industries"
*grin*). When he told me he owned ALRI I was shocked but you know what? Who cares?
I really enjoy the conversations I have with Author each week, they are fruitful and I always come away
feeling like I learned something. I hope he can say the same.
And I can state unequivocally that Author's motives (aside from obviously turning a profit) are to make solid,
cutting edge supplements that do what he and I claim they will do. That's good enough for me. It should
also be good enough for everyone else based on ALRI's track record of putting out some of the most
cutting edge, good supps in the industry.
This is not a popularity contest as much as certain people would like it to be. It's about creating good stuff
for consumers so they don't get taken in and ripped off by buying a hyped to hell supplement that does
zero or a supplement from a disreputable company that contains zero or substantially less than ingredient
than the label says it should.
I trust Author. I would not work with him or share my ideas with him if I did not. We have no written contract.
We do what we do on a handshake and that's fine with both of us obviously. So far...I am happy, I like to think
Author is happy and most importantly, I'd like to think the consumers of the products were working on jointly
are/will be happy.
Will I always work with Author and ALRI? I don't know, maybe yes, I'd like to think we'll continue to work together
on stuff in the future.
I really for the life of me do not understand why some people have such a huge issue with Author working with
me or vice versa. It's like they are worse than a bunch of old retired women sitting around a Bingo table in some
small town somewhere. Gossip, gossip, gossip! Who cares who works with whom as long as the final result is
solid, kick ass products for you guys?!? The less time we fight amongst ourselves the more time we have to devote to
R&D, right?
You know, I'd even work with "you know who" if I thought he was genuinely interested in coming out with new and
exciting products, would not somehow screw me the second my back was turned and could act in a civil manner.
Heresy you say? Like I wrote before...leave the popularity contest and personalities out of it. Judge the companies and their
alliances by the quality/safety/efficacy of their respective products.
I'm going to be working with a bunch of companies in the future. If these guys want to hate on me and say I am "latching on to
a new company" then thats fine by me.
Or maybe if they spend more time working on R&D and cool products for you folks and less time wondering what Author and I
are doing by hiding behind 3rd grade screen names on internet bulletin boards and stirring up crap they'd be less inclined to follow in Author and Gaspari's footsteps. There are a lot of really good companies out there with good people working at them.
And as you know, there are a lot of crummy, fly-by-night companies that suck wind. I'm going to work with the former. I'm going to work WITH Author and ALRI.
I'm looking forward to seeing how Ultra HOTTER works because I know what went into it and discussed this quite a bit with Author. Gaspari is NOT changing their formula, Novedex XT will remain as is for a long time.
But Author and I are working on a number of cool ideas and not all of them are hormones either.
Maybe some of these will be co-marketed under ALRI and Gaspari, some might go to one and not the other. But overall...I think
I am for the better for having come into contact with Author.
BK out
I just wanted to clear something up 'for the record' as I guess at another
board there exists some controversy (albeit, I have no idea why as I do not
frequent this other board, don't like the owner/administrator and can't understand
their morbid fascination with every little thing I do or they 'think' I do) as to whom
I work for. Do I work for Author/ALRI or Rich/Gaspari Nutrition or both?
Answer (in no uncertain terms) - I work for myself and work WITH Author/ALRI and
Rich/Gaspari Nutrition sometimes jointly, sometimes independently of one another.
I'd also like to tell you that I have contracts and work WITH 2 other supplement companies
and in about 6-8 weeks there is going to be a real shocker when people see that I have
teamed up with an industry giant to do design work.
The way I look at it is simple: I will work with anyone who is genuinely interested in furthering
the safety and efficacy of the supplement market, irrespective of the name of the company they
work for or their title at said company. I seek to establish alliances, I truly think that "part of something
is better than all of nothing".
When Author asked if I would be interested in working with him I was very excited because I had read
CME, liked the book a lot and thought he was a bright, genuine guy with a lot of talent for seeing things
in a different light. I had no idea what ALRI was (yeah, so I am stupid somethimes, "Author L. Rea Industries"
*grin*). When he told me he owned ALRI I was shocked but you know what? Who cares?
I really enjoy the conversations I have with Author each week, they are fruitful and I always come away
feeling like I learned something. I hope he can say the same.
And I can state unequivocally that Author's motives (aside from obviously turning a profit) are to make solid,
cutting edge supplements that do what he and I claim they will do. That's good enough for me. It should
also be good enough for everyone else based on ALRI's track record of putting out some of the most
cutting edge, good supps in the industry.
This is not a popularity contest as much as certain people would like it to be. It's about creating good stuff
for consumers so they don't get taken in and ripped off by buying a hyped to hell supplement that does
zero or a supplement from a disreputable company that contains zero or substantially less than ingredient
than the label says it should.
I trust Author. I would not work with him or share my ideas with him if I did not. We have no written contract.
We do what we do on a handshake and that's fine with both of us obviously. So far...I am happy, I like to think
Author is happy and most importantly, I'd like to think the consumers of the products were working on jointly
are/will be happy.
Will I always work with Author and ALRI? I don't know, maybe yes, I'd like to think we'll continue to work together
on stuff in the future.
I really for the life of me do not understand why some people have such a huge issue with Author working with
me or vice versa. It's like they are worse than a bunch of old retired women sitting around a Bingo table in some
small town somewhere. Gossip, gossip, gossip! Who cares who works with whom as long as the final result is
solid, kick ass products for you guys?!? The less time we fight amongst ourselves the more time we have to devote to
R&D, right?
You know, I'd even work with "you know who" if I thought he was genuinely interested in coming out with new and
exciting products, would not somehow screw me the second my back was turned and could act in a civil manner.
Heresy you say? Like I wrote before...leave the popularity contest and personalities out of it. Judge the companies and their
alliances by the quality/safety/efficacy of their respective products.
I'm going to be working with a bunch of companies in the future. If these guys want to hate on me and say I am "latching on to
a new company" then thats fine by me.
Or maybe if they spend more time working on R&D and cool products for you folks and less time wondering what Author and I
are doing by hiding behind 3rd grade screen names on internet bulletin boards and stirring up crap they'd be less inclined to follow in Author and Gaspari's footsteps. There are a lot of really good companies out there with good people working at them.
And as you know, there are a lot of crummy, fly-by-night companies that suck wind. I'm going to work with the former. I'm going to work WITH Author and ALRI.
I'm looking forward to seeing how Ultra HOTTER works because I know what went into it and discussed this quite a bit with Author. Gaspari is NOT changing their formula, Novedex XT will remain as is for a long time.
But Author and I are working on a number of cool ideas and not all of them are hormones either.
Maybe some of these will be co-marketed under ALRI and Gaspari, some might go to one and not the other. But overall...I think
I am for the better for having come into contact with Author.
BK out
Ghosting
Guest
The gossip gives them something to talk about. It makes them feel secure.
jonny21
Registered User
IMO the ALRI crew & BK should not even waste their time reply to the children posting their BS. They could be spending their time working on other goodies for us to try. Try it once. If it works, great. If not try the next one. Simple!
I am eagerly awaiting any of the following:
4,17b-diydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one (did someone ask for 'trenbolone'?)
4-hydroxy-17a-methyl-2-oxa-5a-androstane-3-one (the Anavar variant)
4-hydroxy-1-methyl-5alpha-androst-1-en-3-one (probably as a 17b ester - think "legal Primobolan")
4-hydroxy-17a-methyl-androsta-1,4-dien-3-one (dbol, no bloat, non-aromatizing)
Keep em coming.
I am eagerly awaiting any of the following:
4,17b-diydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one (did someone ask for 'trenbolone'?)
4-hydroxy-17a-methyl-2-oxa-5a-androstane-3-one (the Anavar variant)
4-hydroxy-1-methyl-5alpha-androst-1-en-3-one (probably as a 17b ester - think "legal Primobolan")
4-hydroxy-17a-methyl-androsta-1,4-dien-3-one (dbol, no bloat, non-aromatizing)
Keep em coming.
Ghosting
Guest
jonny21 said:
Do we know the approx. time for this to be released?
Author L. Rea
Board Sponsor
Gosting:Ghosting said:
This is only in research at this time. These are totally new compound that, on paper, look very interesting and we can likely predict most of the effects. However that is guessing and we test everything extensively.
The analog you are asking about is currently capsulated and we have 2 test subjects doing there blood work on Monday. No, there is not a run of it around, only a few grams for testing needs. Naturally I am very curious about this one myself as well.
Ghosting
Guest
Thanks for the answer kind sir.Author L. Rea said:
jonny21
Registered User
Does the same go for these?Author L. Rea said:
4-hydroxy-17a-methyl-2-oxa-5a-androstane-3-one (the Anavar variant)
4-hydroxy-1-methyl-5alpha-androst-1-en-3-one (probably as a 17b ester - think "legal Primobolan")
4-hydroxy-17a-methyl-androsta-1,4-dien-3-one (dbol, no bloat, non-aromatizing)