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got my first handgun today

Here is some interesting information I found, its comparing doctors and guns:

Doctors:

A) The number of doctors in the U.S. is 700,000
B) Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year are 120,000
C) Accidental deaths per physician is 17.14%

Statistics courtesy of the U.S. Dept of Health and Human Services

Guns:

A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000
B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500
C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is 0.001875%

Statistics courtesy of the FBI

So statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners. Something to think about when people think we should ban guns lol.
 
Nate Dawg said:
Here is some interesting information I found, its comparing doctors and guns:

Doctors:

A) The number of doctors in the U.S. is 700,000
B) Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year are 120,000
C) Accidental deaths per physician is 17.14%

Statistics courtesy of the U.S. Dept of Health and Human Services

Guns:

A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000
B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500
C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is 0.001875%

Statistics courtesy of the FBI

So statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners. Something to think about when people think we should ban guns lol.
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I always like throwing fun numbers like that at people. Don't sound familiar to me though, how recent are these? I remember a while ago the FBI Uniform Crime Stats being used to basically destroy the myth of 'kids being killed by guns,' where liberals wanted people to believe around 20 kids a day were dying from accidental shootings, and it actually turned out the vast majority of their statistics were made up of 19-22 year old 'kids' involved in gang drug wars, which didn't quite fit the picture of a little boy or girl finding daddy's .45 and accidentally blowing their head off. I believe most people except the die hard antigun nuts stopped using that stat rather quickly.
 
Nate Dawg said:
Here is some interesting information I found, its comparing doctors and guns:

Doctors:

A) The number of doctors in the U.S. is 700,000
B) Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year are 120,000
C) Accidental deaths per physician is 17.14%

Statistics courtesy of the U.S. Dept of Health and Human Services

Guns:

A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000
B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500
C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is 0.001875%

Statistics courtesy of the FBI

So statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners. Something to think about when people think we should ban guns lol.
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I'm pretty sure that anti-gun fanatics aren't concerned with just the accidental gun deaths but the total gun deaths. **** most of us guns owners got guns because we were concerned with the non-accidental number of gun deaths and becoming one of those numbers.
 
here's another fun statistic: complications from immunizations kill upwards of 3000 children per year (that shuts up the 'think of the children' crowd pretty fast).
 
Those stats are worthless. Majority of time,said guns are not being handled, so of course they are not going to be cause of death. I wonder how many gun related deaths there would be if everyone who owned a gun carried it w/them every where they went w/their finger on the trigger.
 
Yes if everyone carried them there would probably be more accidents. The stats are just there to show that guns dont cause near as many deaths as other everyday things that people go through.
 
My favorite stats are the ones from states where its legal to carry firearms--they ALWAYS have much lower crime rates than their so-called "progressive" counterparts.

Its simple, too. If Gangsta "G" is gonna rob Mr. A in somewhere like Cali, he knows that its 'almost certain' that he is the only one with a weapon or that the other guy doesn't have a weapon. Take that scanario to Texas or Arizona and Gangsta "G" is gonna get his head blown off by good 'ol Mr. A, and maybe his gun-totin' grandma, too :D
 
One thing I think a lot of people tend to forget when discussing firearms, is the very basis this country was founded upon. The Second Amendment is the right to bear arms. In my opinion, the right for citizens to posess firearms is crucial for a number of reasons

-Personal safety from other individuals of society (obviously)

-Personal defense and protection from our own government - and I think this is what the founding fathers had in mind when they put this in the constitution. That, if at any point, the government becomes to restraining on its citizens, the citizens can voice their concerns, and if those concerns aren't answered and living conditions become unsuitable, they can defend themselves against an opressive government

-Personal defense in a situation where we are attacked by another country - God forbid this would happen, especially with the strength of our military, but if it ever came down to this, you goddamn bet your ass I'm going to be sitting inside my house with the gas mask on, 12 guage on my lap, and the beretta on my hip. I'd rather get blown to pieces while firing rounds to defend myself and my family than submit, unarmed, to someone else and live the life of a piss ant.
 
I've owned a lot of glocks, .45 is the shiz caliber. Only caveat is the unsupported chamber on glocks... do NOT use reloads of any sort.

My collection:
H&K SOCOM Mk 23 with the OEM Insight pulsed laser
H&K Tactical
H&K SP89
H&K P7M13

Have an MP5 with Knight suppressor, uhh... no I don't[sorry ATF]
 
I'm looking into my first home defense weapon, and all I know is that it will be a shotgun at this point, either a Mossberg or a Stoeger, 12 or 20 gauge depending on what the girlfriend can handle. The statistics I've read say that a 20 guage will deliver about 75% of the lead of the 12 gague but with about 50% the recoil. A 20 guage also has about the same muzzle energy as two .44 mag rounds. So I'm not worried about that. I seriously think that if you are getting a weapon to defend your house (not carry out into public), then nothing beats a shotgun, pistols are harder to aim (I'm not saying that you can't miss with a shotgun, it is easy to, especially in closer quarters where the shot won't spread much) and deliver only one projectile at a time compared to the 8 or more projectiles delivered by a shotgun.
 
I have a mossber 500, glock 19 and a a sig p226 in a .40. I think shotguns are good for home defense, but not as maneuverable as a hand gun. Also you need two hands for a shotgun while I can shoot my sig with one hand and have a flashlight in the other. You need to be careful when talking about muzzle velocity with a shotgun, because it all depends on the type of load you use. Birdshot may not even penetrate someone with a heavy leather jacket on. I load my shotgun with #1 buck, from what I've researched it penetrates well without over penetrating.
 
I understand that point, which is why I like the loading idea a good friend of mine gave me. I will use a 20 guage Mossberg special purpose with a 6 shot capacity and speed-feed with 5 shots on the weak side of the reciver/stock. You should have the first 4 shots to come out be birdshot, the next two buckshot, the easiest two shots on the speed-feed be buckshot as well, and the last three be rifled slugs. This allows for a lot of options when it comes to ammo. I'm planning on loading all six as birdshot, with three buck and two slugs carried externally since I live in an apartment with thin walls.

ManBeast
 
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