Good sarm cycle?

Owens23

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Alright guys just looking for advice for my first cycle was leaning towards sarms since I've read they dont shut you down as bad. Im 26 197lbs and about 19% bf just wanting to cut down some fat but still add some lean muscle would osta & cardirne for 12 weeks be good for that or should i go a different route?
 
They are suppressive at effective dosages. Osta and cardarine are a good mix. Tbh, you're gonna need to run 25mgs of each to get much, and at that dose you may as,well run something more effective, such as halodrol,anavar or a,stronger sarm like lgd
 
What's your diet and training regimine going to look like? I think S23 would blow ostarine out of the water for a cut. I've ran it at 20, 30 and now 40mg and 40mg is much better than 20 or 30. If you want to speed up the weight loss process you can cycle clen/ ECAY 2 weeks on each. But 80% of it will be diet.

Edit; I agree with the above poster, I would much rather see you on anavar than a SARM. But SARMs can be effective at the proper doses.
 
My cycle was gonna be 1-12 cardarine 20mg osta 1-12 25mg natural test booster 9-12 then mini pct 13-16 clomid 50/25/25/25 & cardarine 20mg a day currently working out 4 days a week but gonna go to 5 once I start a cycle. Ill do some research on anavar I've heard of it plenty but not looked much into it another reason I was leaning towards sarms was the fact they are oral and not hard on liver
 
RickyBlobby said:
What's your diet and training regimine going to look like? I think S23 would blow ostarine out of the water for a cut. I've ran it at 20, 30 and now 40mg and 40mg is much better than 20 or 30. If you want to speed up the weight loss process you can cycle clen/ ECAY 2 weeks on each. But 80% of it will be diet.

Edit; I agree with the above poster, I would much rather see you on anavar than a SERM. But SERMs can be effective at the proper doses.
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Typo im guessing, sarm not serm......lol

If losing fat is the main goal then eca plus dialled in nutrition is a safe bet (im using clen and eca as above but clen can have bad sides).

A 1/4/epiandro would be a better recomp stack if you want to go anabolic imo. Run at proper doses and pct correctly with a serm youll get great results.
 
My main goal is to get some size and strength and lose a little belly fat but i got told with my body fat being so high I need to cut first then try to bulk to add muscle so i was gonna try and cut some fat but still add some muscle at the same time didn't really want to use anything that would have bad sides since this will be my first cycle
 
I have not had any lucky adding muscle and losing fat at the same time with any sarms... I am sure it can be done i usually have to pick one or te other... and yes you build. Muscle better at a lower body fat... and wen you get up to about 16% bf it starts to decline
 
Sarms can be suppressive and in some people with already low testostrone can get really close to shutting down. Get some aromasin and keep it on hand in case estrogen gets out of hand. A natural test booster on cycle won't help much besides with libido but in would save it for your pct, it's up to you really. Ostarine and cardarine are a great combo, but of course unless your diet is on point you won't see much.

I've personally never used ostarine, but I've used 15mg of lgd4033 and 10mg of cardarine during my 8 week cycle. I wished I used a test base cause I was suppressed to the point of being lethargic for 5 out of my 8 week cycle. So just keep that mind.
 
A couple months ago I thought osta and cardarine was a good idea but I abandoned that plan pretty quickly because, like Brenwad said, you might as well run something a little stronger if you’re going to suppress yourself anyway.

And whatever you choose to do, at least skip the cardarine. There is no drug we talk about on here that has such a poor risk to reward ratio like cardarine.
 
if your set on doing the ostarine and gw then do it. I know what your feeling. You want to start small for your first time. Ostarine and gw will lean you out if you diet lift and do cardio. If your like me then half way into the cycle you'll get pissed that its not stronger. I would suggest using s4 with your combination or instead of the gw. It can be run for 12 weeks with ostarine without causing side effects. Also gw is good for added edurance but i didnt think it was that effective. Look into transdermal sr9009. Ive seen some great reviews for it. Personally id try transdermal sr9009 before buying gw. Last recommindation, buy some dmz for when you get bored halfway into your cycle. If you dont use it then you still have dmz. its a win win
 
Yea after reading about cardarine more and how it might could cause cancer or might not isn't something i really wanna gamble with and i think my test is on the lower side anyway even though its "within range" last i got it checked it was 461 so if I ran osta and s4 for 12 weeks think it would shut me down pretty hard?
 
BillD said:
Then you probably didn’t have legit Ostarine. I’ve ran it 3 times and never had that issue.
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Well it was a couple years ago when primeval had a sarms line... so who knows... but needless to say it better to have an AI on hand to be safe...
 
Owens23 said:
Was told I shouldn't need AI with sarms should I have some on hand just in case
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Most deffinately... there not as safe as your lead to beleive and they will mess up your liver values like a prohormone... well at least lgd and rad 140 are a little harsh on the liver ostarine eh maybe not so much...
 
Swindler said:
Most deffinately... there not as safe as your lead to beleive and they will mess up your liver values like a prohormone... well at least lgd and rad 140 are a little harsh on the liver ostarine eh maybe not so much...
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I could actually feel that my liver was inflamed while on ostarine, like it was taking up more space and causing a dull pain.

I’m on lgd now and feel no symptoms of liver stress and I’ve been drinking as much beer as I want while on it. So everyone’s different I guess.

At what point during your osta run did your nipples get itchy? Around what week?
 
YoungThor said:
I could actually feel that my liver was inflamed while on ostarine, like it was taking up more space and causing a dull pain.

I’m on lgd now and feel no symptoms of liver stress and I’ve been drinking as much beer as I want while on it. So everyone’s different I guess.

At what point during your osta run did your nipples get itchy? Around what week?
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Yes everyone is different for sure.. about 2.5-3 weeks in nipple would get itchy sensitive it would come and go threw out the day. Had no AI on hand went to the supplement store go some airimistane took it for a couple of weeks with no relief. Airimistane is not a good AI get some exemestane or something of that nature. Needless to say I haven't run Osterine again since...
 
Owens23 said:
Yea after reading about cardarine more and how it might could cause cancer or might not isn't something i really wanna gamble with and i think my test is on the lower side anyway even though its "within range" last i got it checked it was 461 so if I ran osta and s4 for 12 weeks think it would shut me down pretty hard?
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Probably not. You’ll be a little shut down. But if you pct properly, you should be fine. S4 and ostarine are barely suppressive in my opinion
 
Only thing I'm not liking about sr9009 is everything I've seen on it says you need to dose like every 3 hours which would be hard with my work schedule and wouldn't always work out if I did run ostarine and s4 would 12 weeks be to long this will be my first cycle ever and would Clomid be enough for pct
 
The SARMS companies have put out a lot of misleading (and just untrue) information regarding their safety vs effectiveness.
Anything you've learned from their websites, I would just throw out, and do your research here and other unbiased places.
 
Cardarine is over-hyped IMO. The effects people talk about it doing are pretty mild from my experience but where it shines is lipid fixing(cholesterol), which helps some negatives from androgens.

As mentioned ECA and TD SR9009 with diet and cardio would melt the fat off without any suppression...then you could start a bulk with better compounds straight after because you didn't shut down.
 
After reading more about how suppressive osta is and only getting decent results from it I think ive decided to try and cut natural i may try a fat burner of some sort and maybe a natural test booster(never tried either before) and wait till I get my bf% down to start a bulk then do my first cycle
 
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