Good natural test booster?

I hate when people misrepresent scientific advancement and understanding as some sort of deep flaw and “evil” of science. Unfortunately, when you hear the asinine comments such as “science Changes and that just proves it is always wrong..at least when I say something I know 100% I am right, regardless of new facts or valid points to the contrary.” The last part may have been their hidden agenda and ignorance that their better selves meant to say. I don’t get it. Since when did revising models and adapting to new information to make sure our current technology and progress is being maximized become a problem?

This also reminds me of the “evolution is false because I didn’t come from an ape...”(even though they say monkey)........No you f’in idiot we came from a COMMON ANCESTOR.. a verrry long time ago. A common ancestor that didn’t really look exactly like us or them...but had some common traits that later diverged into MANY paths, some of which are extant, the vast majority of hominids not being so lucky.

why is that so hard to understand?

Rant over...For now. Lol
 
bigdavid said:
I hate when people misrepresent scientific advancement and understanding as some sort of deep flaw and “evil” of science. Unfortunately, when you hear the asinine comments such as “science Changes and that just proves it is always wrong..at least when I say something I know 100% I am right, regardless of new facts or valid points to the contrary.” The last part may have been their hidden agenda and ignorance that their better selves meant to say. I don’t get it. Since when did revising models and adapting to new information to make sure our current technology and progress is being maximized become a problem?

This also reminds me of the “evolution is false because I didn’t come from an ape...”(even though they say monkey)........No you f’in idiot we came from a COMMON ANCESTOR.. a verrry long time ago. A common ancestor that didn’t really look exactly like us or them...but had some common traits that later diverged into MANY paths, some of which are extant, the vast majority of hominids not being so lucky.

why is that so hard to understand?

Rant over...For now. Lol
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Exactly. It's not that science is inherently flawed or bad because conclusions/stances change (or evolve) over time. If anything, that's a good thing! It shows that science is (when done correctly) interested in finding the truth, not just in proving something/someone/itself right. That is more admirable to me than someone who is "strong and firm in their beliefs," even if/when their beliefs are shown to be untrue (no, I'm not an atheist, I go to Church and read a lot of religion/spirituality/philosophy, so this isn't an attack on religion). Being firm, or strong, is good only when the beliefs are based on a solid foundation; "being strong in your convictions" when you're wrong may be "strength," but it is not the strength of a healthy man, but the strength of a madman, and should not be praised or encouraged (paraphrasing the Stoic philosopher Epictetus on that last part).

Back to the topic of supplements. People used to think CEE was great. This was due to the extrapolation necessary to come to any conclusions/hypotheses on it as an ergogen. The logic was creatine monohydrate is good, CEE is more water soluble than CM, therefore it must be better. Of course, this didn't pan out in the real world, and more direct research (actual studies on people) showed that CEE was ineffective. It wasn't that science changed. CEE was NEVER effective, we just finally realized that it wasn't, so we (most of us anyway) accepted this and changed our conclusions regarding CEE.

Think about the common 'riddle,' "what was the biggest island in the world before Australia was discovered?" It was still Australia, even if we didn't know it yet. Science didn't change, our knowledge and understanding of it did.

Now, I think subscribing to the multiverse theory could throw this all into whack, but I don't really believe many people try to apply that to daily life/science.

Edit: My 5,000th post was about science, I'll take it!
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I am currently 14 days into Alpha Jym as I liked that it contained 1000mg of Ashwaganda. However it also doses "500 milligrams of diindolymethane (DIM) to support the conversion of strong and damaging forms of estrogen into weaker forms that aren’t harmful to the body.*" Per the products statement. Is that statement BS and is it likely I will experience issues at 500mg?

The daily dose provides the following: 1000mg Fenugreek extract, 1000mg Ashwaganda Root Extract, 1000mg Damiana, 500mg DIM, 200mg Eurycoma Longifolia Extract, and 500mg Quercetin.
 
bigdavid said:
I hate when people misrepresent scientific advancement and understanding as some sort of deep flaw and “evil” of science. Unfortunately, when you hear the asinine comments such as “science Changes and that just proves it is always wrong..at least when I say something I know 100% I am right, regardless of new facts or valid points to the contrary.” The last part may have been their hidden agenda and ignorance that their better selves meant to say. I don’t get it. Since when did revising models and adapting to new information to make sure our current technology and progress is being maximized become a problem?

This also reminds me of the “evolution is false because I didn’t come from an ape...”(even though they say monkey)........No you f’in idiot we came from a COMMON ANCESTOR.. a verrry long time ago. A common ancestor that didn’t really look exactly like us or them...but had some common traits that later diverged into MANY paths, some of which are extant, the vast majority of hominids not being so lucky.

why is that so hard to understand?

Rant over...For now. Lol
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dude...everyone knows that ancient aliens altered Neanderthal dna to form present day humans.....

THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE
 
symbianblack said:
Please see attachment. N-Acetyl Tyrosine, forskolin, Tongkat Ali (longjack variety), Mucuna Pruriens L-Dopa at around 60%. Good?
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forskolin/tyrosine/Mucana Pruriens (L-Dopa) >>> cAMP (Cyclic adenosine monophosphate) >>> noradrenaline/norepinephrine. Invalid Link Removed
 
R1balla said:
What do you kingsblood users like to stack it with?
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I have been on it 90% of the time since the product was released...I love it! Needless to say, I have used it with SARMs, prohormones, natural anabolics (MassMax XT, Magnitropin, Follidrone 2.0). It's all good!

Since K1NGS BLOOD does not have potent AI properties. I often like to stack it with something like Myokem Alphadex or BLR Letrone etc for that extra pump and vascularity.
 
It is not a test booster, but I am currently running the 14 green olives/day diet as talked about by Bob Regish and making gains on it, similar to the study. Obviously hard to tell, how much of my fat loss, muscle gain can really be attributed to the olives.
 
mbonheur said:
It is not a test booster, but I am currently running the 14 green olives/day diet as talked about by Bob Regish and making gains on it, similar to the study. Obviously hard to tell, how much of my fat loss, muscle gain can really be attributed to the olives.
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Get on the Onion juice too ?
 
symbianblack said:
forskolin/tyrosine/Mucana Pruriens (L-Dopa) >>> cAMP (Cyclic adenosine monophosphate) >>> noradrenaline/norepinephrine. Invalid Link Removed
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All of those can help in direct and indirect ways. Would just suggest getting L-tyosine next time, as the acetylated version gets into your body faster but also is metabolized faster and the acetyl group for some reason mostly stays on the tyrosine molecule. If possible get L-tyrosine POWDER. As you need to take at least 3-5 grams at once to have an acute effect. And in the sleep deprived state they have tested upwards of 15 g bolus doses to be safe and effective. When I'm feeling lack of focus and energy I usually take 3 g tyrosine and 240 mg l-dopa (coming from an extract that is ~20%). l-dopa has always seemed to help with libido, but honestly I didn't feel a thing when I tried tongkat ali, which was disappointing cause if I recall it was kinda pricey
 
K1ngs Blood looks amazing, however the cheapest I can find it via NV(2 bottle combo with 20% discount) is $94AUD, and M-TEST is on BOGO elsewhere which is like $62AUD. It's quite a large difference, enough to buy a 3rd product.
 
AdelV said:
K1ngs Blood looks amazing, however the cheapest I can find it via NV(2 bottle combo with 20% discount) is $94AUD, and M-TEST is on BOGO elsewhere which is like $62AUD. It's quite a large difference, enough to buy a 3rd product.
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Yes, but would you rather buy something that has resulted in multiple examples of favorable bloodwork, or the opposite? One of them is not a better value if it does not do what it is intended to do.
 
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