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Good Halodrol cycle/PCT? critique please.

liftinw8

New member
Age:21
Lifting experience: about 4 years solid diet/training
Cycle Experience: nothing, 1st.

Week 1-4:
Halodrol 1 tab
Ostran-A 2-3 Tab
2 Days every week 250IU of HCG
AI Perfect Cycle

for PCT I will stop taking the HCG 1 week after the last tab. Then start Clomid for 30 days.

Anything I am missing? Any overkill? I've read that Halodrol is based off OT and thus you don't have to worry about gyno or many other major sides like hair loss etc. Also I've heard Clomid has negative sides when compared to Nolvadex? is this true? I have Clomid b ut can not find Nolvadex anywhere so I am just going to use that.

Thanks!

Also one last question, after this cycle, if I do my PCT right, all things being equal, my Test levels and body should be back to how it was post cycle correct? In terms of Test levels and what not. Because after this I want to train naturally for a little bit.

Thanks again guys, like you I want to play it as safe as possible!
 
Also I i'd like to add I've read 2 different things

In one article I have read that you should take HCG more then 1 week after your cycle, in another I've read it should be taken for 16 days, along with Clomid for 30, and then Novaldex for 45.

Now is all of this nessecary for a small Halodrol cycle?

or could I just be good with a little HCG a week while on the halodrol (or is this not needed till PCT) then HCG for one week following the last tab and 100mg of Clomid for 30 days after the last tab PCT.
 
ih8brokebacks said:
Age:21
Lifting experience: about 4 years solid diet/training
Cycle Experience: nothing, 1st.

Week 1-4:
Halodrol 1 tab
Ostran-A 2-3 Tab
2 Days every week 250IU of HCG
AI Perfect Cycle

for post cycle therapy I will stop taking the HCG 1 week after the last tab. Then start Clomid for 30 days.

Anything I am missing? Any overkill? I've read that Halodrol is based off OT and thus you don't have to worry about gyno or many other major sides like hair loss etc. Also I've heard Clomid has negative sides when compared to Nolvadex? is this true? I have Clomid b ut can not find Nolvadex anywhere so I am just going to use that.

Thanks!

Also one last question, after this cycle, if I do my PCT right, all things being equal, my Test levels and body should be back to how it was post cycle correct? In terms of Test levels and what not. Because after this I want to train naturally for a little bit.

Thanks again guys, like you I want to play it as safe as possible!
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HCG would definetly be overkill for this kind of cycle,Clomid definetly has more sides than Nolva,at least in my experience, but it is more of an indiviual thing,but IMO i would just use Nolva.And yes your test levels should go back to normal after you are finished with PCT.
 
I've been reading on Clomid and it's said to be very safe in terms of toxicity. The sideeffects (please add anything if I'm missing it) include: hot flashes, nausea, dizziness, headaches and temporarily blurred vision. (That last on sort of scares me, will it damage my vision/eyes in any way?)

I have clomid on hand so I am thinking of just using that since it acts as the same way as Nolva. Also does 100mg seem right for 30 days for the PCT of Clomid?

I'll skip the HCG since you think it is not needed for a cycle of this small scale. Also would I need to take anabolic innovations perfect cycle while on the PCT or would Centrum multi vitamin along w/ fish oil, vitamin E, B and C be sufficient?

Thanks again!
 
Clomid makes me turn into a Premenepausal woman/Cruella Deville hybrid. I like it for HPTA recovery though.

What's with your screenname? I think Jayhawkk and a few others here will take offense to you hating on their lifestyle.

HCG is way overkill for a simple oral dip in the pool such as you are planning.

what are you stats? You know.. Height/weight/member size.. including girth.. circumsized, uncut.. what have you.
 
The name is what I call those in my gym who give excuses about squatting saying "It hurts my back" So I call them broke backs, this was years before the movie so please take no offense to it!

So my question now is would Clomid be fine instead of Nolva for 30 days PCT? at 100mg or could I do less?

Ill forget about the HCG.

My stats are 5'11 170

Small bones/small waist so I look to be about 180-190!

Thanks again guys
 
Oh right and about the cycle... Don't expect anything too much out of halodrol. ;) I mean it's good stuff, but very mild, so I hope you're not disappointed giving its your first cycle.
 
Thanks for the heads up NY, I dont expect any more then about 8-10lbs, or is that even expecting too much?

I purposely chose it because it is mild and wont put on too much weight at one time, I just wanted to take things slow and see how it goes. Patience is key, or thats what I tell myself.

Edit also I've read that Clomid might be a little MUCH for such a mild cycle of Halodrol and I could do w/ ATD such as the one provided by Gaspari, is this true or am I fine with Clomid? Maybe I should cut the mg's down for the clomid?

Also I've read SERMs have side-effects in the future? is this true at all because IU only read it from one place.
 
one last bump.

Just want to make sure I have this right.

After reading in a few threads here, is a SERM like Clomid nessecary after Halodrol for PCT or are ATDs sufficient? I don't have any ATD on hand, just Clomid.

Also would using the AI Cycle Support be needed for this sort of cycle? or could I get by with a getting a few supplements like Milk Thistle, Celery Seed, Hawthorne Berry, and Saw Pallmento.. also on top of that I take a multivitamin daily along with Fish Oil, vitamin B, C, E.
 
You definitely need a SERM. Right now I just finished a Halodrol/MTRN cycle and I can tell you I am having my easiest recovery from any cycle.

My PCT is as follows:

Week1 : 40mg Nolva/100mg DHEA/2caps Ultra hotter/3caps of fenugreek/0.25 mg Cabergoline twice a week/4 caps of Reduce XT splitted throughtout the day

week2: 20 mg Nolva /50mg DHEA/1cap Ultra Hotter/4 caps fenugreek/4 caps of Reduce XT splitted throughtout the day

Week3: 20 mg Nolva/1cap Ultra Hotter/5 caps fenugreek/3 caps of Reduce XT splitted throughtout the day

I normally do PCT between 4 to 6 weeks long, but this time I will cut it to three weeks since my recovery has been amazing.
 
Alright, Now I'm sure a lot of PCT stuff is personal preference but what do you think would be essential for me other then the SERM (Clomid is what im going to use)

Also do you have any dosage recommendations? I've read to do 100mg a day for about 30 days. On top of this a multivitamin and if I can get some more $$ together I'll order 2 things of AIs cycle support and just continue that thru the PCT.

Please just let me know if this is sufficient, or if I am missing anything. I understand everyones input on Nolva but like I said, I am using Clomid so please try to give me a little advice on that.

The PCT I was reading about recommended Nolva and Clomid but I've read you only need one.

Thanks fellas!
 
There are basic principles to be followed during PCT, but some of the practices will come from experience based on what works better for you. Not all people react to compounds in the same way nor they recover in the same way. This forum has many good threads on proper PCT, So do your research before attempting to start a cycle.

Normally, you need SERM. A cortisol blocker and an ATD product is recommended. Also you will need to keep your body in hypercaloric state (just a small excess of calories) to aid in muscle preservation.
 
william3162 said:
There are basic principles to be followed during post cycle therapy, but some of the practices will come from experience based on what works better for you. Not all people react to compounds in the same way nor they recover in the same way. This forum has many good threads on proper PCT, So do your research before attempting to start a cycle.

Normally, you need SERM. A cortisol blocker and an ATD product is recommended. Also you will need to keep your body in hypercaloric state (just a small excess of calories) to aid in muscle preservation.
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Thanks, I haven't started yet and do not plan to until I have everything down. I will def. research it and I appreciate you taking the time to give me info on the basic.
 
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