Good Base for SD or MSten

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LDubs

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Would IML Super Epi Andro be a good base for Superdrol or Msten?

I'm mainly looking to mitigate the lethargy.

Reps for thoughts, thanks!
 
lol I don't think anything will help lethargy on SD...from what I've read, not even test. Also some people feel great on it while some feel like death.

I've read is to keep carbs very high.

Best thing you could do is keep your liver from being under too much stress so you can at least eat when running potent compounds such as SD.

Dermacrine or 4-ad transdermal or low dose transdermal trest seem like a good idea.
 
Thinking about throwing SD into my upcoming trest cycle maybe at the end. I'll get back to you on that lol
 
BamBam0319 said:
Thinking about throwing SD into my upcoming trest cycle maybe at the end. I'll get back to you on that lol
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What dose will you be running at? I think when I run SD I will try super low doses at about 5-10mg and see how it is. Stretch it out to 4 weeks instead of 3 if I feel ok.

Same with phera, run it at 10mg for 3-4 weeks depending on how I feel. I'm a big believer in running lower doses. More because gaining huge amounts in short amount of time makes it that much harder to maintain after lol
 
anab0lix said:
What dose will you be running at? I think when I run SD I will try super low doses at about 5-10mg and see how it is. Stretch it out to 4 weeks instead of 3 if I feel ok.

Same with phera, run it at 10mg for 3-4 weeks depending on how I feel. I'm a big believer in running lower doses. More because gaining huge amounts in short amount of time makes it that much harder to maintain after lol
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I'm thinking about doing 3 weeks of 20mg. I'm getting 100 10mg caps so if I did three weeks at 2 caps a day I'd have enough for 4 weeks some other time. Maybe to kickstart the next cycle but I wanted to try anadrol for that cycle.
 
BamBam0319 said:
I'm thinking about doing 3 weeks of 20mg. I'm getting 100 10mg caps so if I did three weeks at 2 caps a day I'd have enough for 4 weeks some other time. Maybe to kickstart the next cycle but I wanted to try anadrol for that cycle.
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Yeah sounds like a good idea. SD is potent enough for you to ramp it up to 30mg if you feel that's ok on the 3rd week and still get good gains I'm assuming.
 
BamBam0319 said:
I'm thinking about doing 3 weeks of 20mg. I'm getting 100 10mg caps so if I did three weeks at 2 caps a day I'd have enough for 4 weeks some other time. Maybe to kickstart the next cycle but I wanted to try anadrol for that cycle.
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20mg sounds more like it lol...5-10 seems like a waste of a cycle
 
LDubs said:
Would IML Super Epi Andro be a good base for Superdrol or Msten?

I'm mainly looking to mitigate the lethargy.

Reps for thoughts, thanks!
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Go with androvar if you decide to run an epiandrosterone product, it gives you way more of the compound per bottle and at a reasonable price. For my dmz run I will be giving dermacrine a try at 4pumps daily depending on how i respond. Td trest would probably be best test base unless you decide to take the bee's needle to yo anus
 
anab0lix said:
Yeah sounds like a good idea. SD is potent enough for you to ramp it up to 30mg if you feel that's ok on the 3rd week and still get good gains I'm assuming.
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Yeah I could but it'll be after two different PH logs while running trest the whole time, so it'll be after at least 8 weeks of usage already and I'm bridging the PHs into test and tren ace so I probably shouldn't push it haha
 
BamBam0319 said:
Yeah I could but it'll be after two different PH logs while running trest the whole time, so it'll be after at least 8 weeks of usage already and I'm bridging the PHs into test and tren ace so I probably shouldn't push it haha
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Run 100mg of superdrol broskinator...As long as you have a bit of milk thistle you'll be gucci ;) Not srs.
 
NattyBoy said:
Run 100mg of superdrol broskinator...As long as you have a bit of milk thistle you'll be gucci ;) Not srs.
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Lol trust me I know you're not srs

I'll do it tho
 
Im using andro the giant and dermacrine for mine. I was going to use tr3st, but didnt like what I read about infertility and shutdown.
 
I don't care what base you run with sd, you will still be lethargic. Sd lethargy usually comes from being poisoned by a super strong methyl. Up your cycle support game if you want to try and fight sd lethargy. I ran a gram of tudca and 100mg of dermatrest with sd and still didn't feel like getting g out of bed every morning.
 
yates84 said:
I don't care what base you run with sd, you will still be lethargic. Sd lethargy usually comes from being poisoned by a super strong methyl. Up your cycle support game if you want to try and fight sd lethargy. I ran a gram of tudca and 100mg of dermatrest with sd and still didn't feel like getting g out of bed every morning.
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What did you run your superdrol at? My buddy LOVES it and his only side effect he notices is reduced appetite, never any lethargy or anything else.
 
10mg for 6 weeks on SD is what I'm planning starting feb with 4andro
 
BamBam0319 said:
What did you run your superdrol at? My buddy LOVES it and his only side effect he notices is reduced appetite, never any lethargy or anything else.
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20mg for 3 weeks. Dropped it because I was up 18 pounds.
 
Yeah it's from your liver being under severe stress. That's why I feel running potent compounds at doses where you can't even eat is pointless. Better to test out lower doses and see how that works.
 
anab0lix said:
Yeah it's from your liver being under severe stress. That's why I feel running potent compounds at doses where you can't even eat is pointless. Better to test out lower doses and see how that works.
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Hopefully dmz doesnt do that to me lmao, would suck if i couldnt eat enough
 
NattyBoy said:
Hopefully dmz doesnt do that to me lmao, would suck if i couldnt eat enough
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Nah dmz won't be that rough on you, especially if you stay on top of your cycle supports which I'm sure you will.
 
BamBam0319 said:
Nah dmz won't be that rough on you, especially if you stay on top of your cycle supports which I'm sure you will.
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Will be running damage control and i am currently considering adding in extra nac. Damage control already has 500mg nac and 200mg tudca so das it mayne
 
NattyBoy said:
Will be running damage control and i am currently considering adding in extra nac. Damage control already has 500mg nac and 200mg tudca so das it mayne
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Yeah I've got AI cycle assist and tudca, additional NAC and hawthorn berry extract. Probably need to get more tudca though.
 
NattyBoy said:
Tudca cost too much, otherwise I'd consider adding more instead of nac
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True but if you're running a ton of different stuff for an extended period of time like I am, you wanna be safe, not sorry.
 
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