Going with this stack again

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beast 10/d week 1 kickstart
epi 30/d week 1, 45/d week 2-6, maybe 60 for week 6, or 60 for week 7 if im feeling up to it
tren 90/d week 1-3, 120/d 4-6, and again if I feel like it 120/d week 7
derma 4 pumps a day 1-6, and again maybe a 7th week

Normal supports - multi, CA, tudca
Normal post - test boost, clomid, pct assist, eliminate starting couple weeks in.


Fun times
 
Do you guys check liver values after a cycle like this? I'm not much a paranoid person when it comes to orals and liver toxicity but jeez this sounds a bit intense. Only recognize epi but the other two compounds I'm sure are oral as well and 17aa.
 
I have checked before but not regularily. Trust me their are people that do much more harmful **** to their body... on a regular. No, im not concerned.
 
Cel Tudca for sure. I’d do at least 750 a day and m test for your natty test boost. Looks like a fun cycle if your diet is in check, pct doesn’t sound so fun though haha good luck man
 
Hey, so i was wondering about someyhing. Ive seen people talk about all kinds of sd dosing, like eod, and other various things. Is it viable for me to do sd 10 per day on week 1, skip week 2, then again week 3? I mean because its so toxic, seems like it wouldnt be bad for liver. And since its so quick, still get the boost by the end of the week. Or am i just being a junkie at this point.
 
Yea, ill stick to the plan which i modified slightly. Im keeping epi at 30 for week 2, and i held off on dermacrine until week 2.
 
I didn't even notice sd first time i read it. That's a little much for me but I'll follow asking you see results!
 
No you don't go back and forth on anything. You go for whatever time that's needed on each compound, you don't overdose it, and you keep it like that for the whole time. example test e 500 mg ew for 12 weeks = exactly what that means, 500 mg every week.

Liver toxicity is always gonna be there with medicine. People forget steroids are used in medicin, and had they been as toxic to the liver as people think, they wouldn't be used. There's no reason to not protect yourself. Of course with steroids we tend to increase the dose to get more out of it and it's really no difference from alcohol. You shouldn't drink every day for a year, you should drink carefully and not too much cause at one point you'll break. If you're not planning on being me Olympia you don't have to dose like these people. You have to worry about colesterol, high blood pressure etc in my opinion far more than your liver. Will your liver be safer of you stop for one week and start again? Sure if you'll keep the oral cycle shorter because of this but your levels will be a rollercoaster so I really can't vote for this.

If you're worried id rather keep the oral cycle short (4 weeks) and at a lower dose. You need to plan your cycle a little more, you might not have any sides but running oral that long is too much even if epi is mild you (might) end up with 8 weeks of oral.
 
Im not too worried. Plenty of oral cycles and research under my belt. This stack was great the first go around, i was just curious aboit the sd part as it just popped in my head as, what if.
The only thing im concerned about is the derma, and my toddler. I know im just being paranoid but id like some input. Im putting it on at 7am, going to the gym at 1, then taking a shower and putting on a different shirt after. My concern is the gym soap aint the greatest ya know. Can i be confident im clear after this, or should i shower when i get home also before playing with him. I really dont want any residue getting on him.
What do yall think
 
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