Giveing blood while ON orals

okboy63

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This might be a silly question. Are there any problems giveing blood while on cycle ?. Is there any beneifit ? I'm talking about orals not injectables(they ask if you have used needles for any drugs on the questionare) so thats out.
Would you want to skip the dose on the day you give blood ?

I read some comment giveing blood lowering hematocrit levels which may be greatly elevated in anabolic users and indirectly causes blood pressure issues. I do know its good for guys to give blood to reduce excess levels of iron.
 
i would not give blood while on steroids i do not think that would be fair to the recipient of the blood.
 
jomi822 said:
i would not give blood while on steroids i do not think that would be fair to the recipient of the blood.
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Good point. what about antibiotics and other prescription drugs(anti depressants etc.
They have a full list of question they ask you before you donate and what kind of orals were not on there. questions about previous illness and sexual contact and needles and such. And this
Anyone who has ever used a needle to inject illegal drugs or steroids will be permanently deferred.

Here is a list
You must be at least 17 years of age and at least 110 pounds. You must also be in good health.

Accepted
Persons with asthma and allergies will be accepted if they are breathing normally and under control.
Someone taking blood pressure medication may still donate blood if they are within the limits on the day of donation.
Even cancer patients can give blood if it has been five years since their diagnosis, surgery, or last radiation treatment, as long as there has been no recurrence or chemotherapy.
If you have had dental work recently - teeth cleaning, root canal, a filling, or an extraction without an infection - you may still donate.
Diabetics can give blood if it has been two weeks since their initial dosage of insulin or a change in their dosage.
If someone with epilepsy has been seizure-free for three months - with or without medications - they are eligible to donate.
You cannot donate if you currently have mono, but if you are fully recovered donation is allowed.
Nursing mothers may donate.
If you have had surgery recently but the wound is healed and you have gone back to normal activity, you may donate blood.
Temporary Deferrals
If you have recently received a blood transfusion, you will be given a one-year deferral.
Oral surgery related to abscesses or infections requires a three-day deferral.
A two- to four-week deferral is given following vaccinations for rubella, chicken pox, oral polio, smallpox, or meningitis.
An individual will be deferred for three years after the last symptoms of malaria.
A pregnant woman will be deferred until six weeks after birth, unless a blood transfusion was required.
If you have had a tattoo or non-sterile body piercing, you will be deferred for a year and a day from the date you try to donate. Sterility is not a factor for the tattoo, but if the piercing was done by a certified piercer donation is permitted.
Those who have spent more than 72 consecutive hours in a correctional facility in the past year and individuals currently incarcerated will be deferred for twelve months, as will anyone who has been in a mental institution for more than 28 days.
Permanent Deferrals
Cancer patients with leukemia or lymphoma are not eligible to give blood.
Those with Creutzfeld-Jakob Disease will be indefinitely deferred, as will anyone with increased risk of CJD or with CJD-diagnosed relatives.
Anyone who has had hepatitis since the age of 11 will be permanently deferred.
A number of serious illnesses require permanent deferral, including lupus, Kaposi's sarcoma, Multiple Sclerosis, sickle-cell disease, and Lyme Disease.
AIDS and Blood Donation
If a health care worker has been exposed to the blood of someone with HIV, he or she must take a twelve-month deferral.
Permanent Deferrals
Men who have had sex with another man even once since 1977 are ineligible to give blood. This has caused some controversy among the gay community.
Anyone who has ever used a needle to inject illegal drugs or steroids will be permanently deferred.
Those who use clotting factor concentrates for a disorder such as hemophilia are not permitted to donate blood.
Anyone with AIDS or one of its symptoms, or anyone who has ever had a positive HIV test, may not give blood.
If you have had sex with an individual listed above within the past twelve months, you are not eligible to donate.
If, since 1977, you have received drugs or money for sex, you are not allowed to give blood.
Anyone born in one of a number of African countries since 1977 will be permanently deferred, as will anyone who has lived there for more than a year since 1977. Those who have received medical treatment with a blood product there are also ineligible. If you have had sex with anyone who was born in, has lived in, or received medical care in any of those countries since 1977, you are also deferred permanently from donation.
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Disclaimer: I am not someone that you should take advice from for any impotent issue period. This is for role playing purposes only and the only thing this post is suppose to do is take up bandwidth.

It would depend. We are back to the injectable steroids being safer again. Such things as testosterone or nandrolone would not be a problem, they are at very low levels in the blood to start with (There really isn't ever much in the way of hormones in the actual blood to start with) and are naturally occurring ones. Things like dbol, tbol, and winny don’t hurt anything ether as the levels that you would pass on aren’t relevant. Even trenbolone wouldn’t be an issue. There is a long history of with these and their affects are well known. But with these new designer steroids who knows? I would pass on it. That is a risk we take and it’s not fair to pass it on to some one else whatever our intentions.

As for the needles they are worried about things like sharing dirty needles and such. That is why they ask all those questions, and they ask in various ways so as to give someone an opportunity to op out without actually admitting to drug use or other socially prohibitive behaviors. If you use insulin they don't care, or give your self shots for medically approved reasons they still don't care. They are trying to weed out the junkies or anybody that practices habits that are likely to give you diseases. If this applies to you then you should not be giving blood. If you use clean sterile needles and gear like your should and practice good hygiene then its not a problem.

On another subject be sure to list any AI or anti-DHT type drugs as some of them can be very bad for a pregnant woman. (Just tell them the doctor gave it to you, they don't check) But this one is important.

Also if you have used IGF, esp. Lions, bovine insulin, or for that matter any peptide drug that you don't know for sure was human grade then you should not ever give blood again. A friend of mine that is a PHD chemist has warned me repeatedly that even though the end product may not packaged in BSA it or some other bovine products may have been used to prepare it. It can not ever be completely removed after that. In that sense it is no different then using bovine insulin. The risk of autoimmune diseases or other problems can be passed on by blood transfusion. Again we take chance of messing ourselves up when we use these things and should not pass that risk on to someone that isn’t aware of it.

Remember that it isn't your self your risking it some else here and while they might be grateful to get your blood they might pass on it if they knew what might be in it.

BTW it is possible to give blood for research purposes, check around as its put to good use as well
 
Wow I didn't even think of the AI or IGF. Glad you brought that up. What about oratropin ?

Donating for research purposes sounds interesting

Thanks
 
okboy63 said:
Wow I didn't even think of the AI or IGF. Glad you brought that up. What about oratropin ?

Donating for research purposes sounds interesting

Thanks
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I don't know, I am still waiting for proof that it does work. (I haven't kept up with it though) IGF is just too big to be ingested as is. They would have to give me a really good explanation before I would buy the stuff. But if they do have a way around that then its entirely possible that any of the errant Bovine proteins could be transmitted in this way as well. Again it comes back to if there were any bovine or other non human biological supplies used.
 
if you are taking igf and you donate blood, there is a possibility that blood will be used on a cancer patient. igf-1 accelerates the growth of cancer.

i agree with skye. the reason they do not want you to give blood if you have used steroids is because every steroid user gets together in the locker room and they all use the same dirty needle to inject themselves :hammer: .

people that use gear on considered the same as junkies in the medical world. im glad we have such intelligent people in charge of our health.
 
jomi822 said:
if you are taking igf and you donate blood, there is a possibility that blood will be used on a cancer patient. igf-1 accelerates the growth of cancer.
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In vitro, this is very true as I have just recently published a paper on the effects of IGF-1 on the growth of melanoma cells. Interestingly, one of my cell lines actually have a subunit of IGF-1 constitutively upregulated.

Im not sure about the issues revolving around blood with detectable presence of steroids, however, recent donations by members of the gay community that falsified information at my institution has caused the red cross to destroy all the donations from that day (from approved donors, as well). There is some talk about destroying all the blood from the entire clinic during this time. While I am not interested in getting into the morality of this issue, I think you should hold off until well after PCT.
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AIDS is known as the gay plague for a reason. i would not want any donations from a homosexual anywhere near me, much less in my blood stream.

if homosexuals are statistically proven to have a higher occurence of HIV/AIDS then why in gods name should they be allowed to donate blood?

i have had lyme disease so i guess i am out of the blood donating pool for good.
 
jomi822 said:
if homosexuals are statistically proven to have a higher occurence of HIV/AIDS then why in gods name should they be allowed to donate blood?
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They're not allowed to.
 
canadian champ said:
Thats what I was getting at... in some strange display of equality, they lied and ruined a large supply of blood.
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Political correctness vs. reality, they don’t want to admit that AIDS is still primarily a homosexual disease. The Red Cross has to deal with the reality of the situation and not use blood from a population that has a high rate of a deadly disease. I am sorry that have been discriminated against for all these years but it doesn’t change the underlying facts that AIDS is a behaviorally spread disease and certain groups practice some very high risk activities. Look at Africa and what is happening there. Hell if your from Africa you they don’t let you donate ether.
 
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