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king1033

king1033

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let me lay it out
1-10 Test E 500mg per week
1-4 250mg Test prop
11-16 250mg Test prop.
1-16 EQ 600mg EW
adex when needed im looking around .25mg ED
HCG 250iu E3D (having trouble finding hcg :think:)

GH 4iu ED 5on 2off
t4 50mcg ED and dosed according to blood tests every 3rd week

PCT
Clomid: 100 days 1-5, 50mg days 6-15, 25mg days 16-30
Torem: 60mg days 1-5, 30mg days 6-15
fenugreek: 3 grams ED and dose accordingly
maca: 3 grams ED and dose accordingly (adjustments)
SAMe: 400mg enteric tab every morning
NADH: 10mg morning
drive 6 caps daily
6-oxo low dose
(im kinding using the pct as force of green wrote as i liked it a lot)
 
Whats your cycle experience?

You dont think you have ANY room for natural growth?

And after all that gear you cant find some HCG?
 
king1033 said:
y not
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It just doesn't seem necessary why run 2 serms? to each his own i guess, but the torm would be just fine by itself. If you were still shutdown then i would run the clomid at 25-50mg ed for a month or 2 then get blood work down to see where your test levels are at, but the torm should be plenty.
 
sry for the delay, gear is all good to go thyroid check!, growth still waiting on then this cycle will be ready to get into action, i just wanna make sure i have EVERYTHING before i pin ANYTHING. still no luck with HCG AHHHHHHHH why is this soo hard to find!
 
HCG is on the way!!! and cycle has begun
alittle change tho instead of kickstarting with the prop im going to end with the prop dunno why i decided that i just did.
DAY 1
1ml Test E/Masteron


will be shooting E3D

Also another change of plans, im going to be starting the growth when the E kicks in,
things should get very exciting during the start of week 3
also couldnt get ahold of EQ so im switching it up with Masteron, would it be bad if i injected the mast at say 150mg E3D?? if i spread it out E3D would bad sides come about like acne, cause i would imagine E3D wouldnt make it even in my blood like it would spike then fall?? or would test only really do that if u didnt inject it E3D
 
king1033 said:
HCG is on the way!!! and cycle has begun
alittle change tho instead of kickstarting with the prop im going to end with the prop dunno why i decided that i just did.
DAY 1
1ml Test E/Masteron


will be shooting E3D

Also another change of plans, im going to be starting the growth when the E kicks in,
things should get very exciting during the start of week 3
also couldnt get ahold of EQ so im switching it up with Masteron, would it be bad if i injected the mast at say 150mg E3D?? if i spread it out E3D would bad sides come about like acne, cause i would imagine E3D wouldnt make it even in my blood like it would spike then fall?? or would test only really do that if u didnt inject it E3D
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what ester is your masteron? If it's ethanate or cypionate you should be fine. If it's prop then I would pin it everyday.
 
ok here is the delema i accidently mixed 5ml of Dromastanolone Di-propionate 100mg/ml with 15ml of test E 250mg/ml like an idiot. luckily i caught my mistake after that 20ml and got the rest of the test E correctly. but i have a 20ml vial with this mixture. so i kinda have no choice but to inject the mast E3D but it would be very little around 25-35mg per 1ml shot and the E would be around 180mg/ml if my math is correct. so in conclusion would it be a big deal if the mast is injected so far apart?? i just dont want these small doses of mast spread out so far to create nasty sides. in my mind i dont think it will be that big of a deal, anyone beg to differ?
 
Bump,


also today was the 2nd shot of the cycle 1 1/2ml of test E/mast in right glute (virtually no pain so far which i love)... cant wait til the 6th shot when **** starts moving.
hcg will be incorporated into cycle at around week 5.
so a recap to make things a little more organized

-HGH will be added into cycle in the next week or 2 with the addition of t4, this will be carried out for the duration of the cycle

-I have changed my mind about the ending of the cycle to last 5 weeks (weeks 12-17) i have a mixture 100mgprop/100mg mast per ml will pin 1/2ml ED on top of that will run 300mg primobolan to help solidy gains, also on top of that i will still be running growth up until the end of pct so stay tuned things should start to get interesting next week.
 
so it is 2 days after my 3rd shot which was 1 1/2 ml in my left delt painful, i shouldnt go over 1ml in the delts anymore i feel cause up to 2ml in the glutes are painless.
so stats have increased fairly dramatically i have put on 4lbs since the beggining of the cycle vascularity has gone up tramendously, but i know test still hasnt kicked in yet. when i started the cycle i bumped cals up to 4.5k eating very! clean! pumps in the gym are also amazing. the bodyparts i really wanna bring out this cycle are my calfs, hams, triceps and chest. those are my main focuses so when test kicks in i plan to work those muscle groups 2x a week incorporated with other bodypart gym days.
 
4th shot was under way 1 1/2 ml test/mast combo. im starting to see some serious vascularity its getting insane, ive also put on 10lbs (some water and fat) since starting but it definatly was all diet cause i upped my cals to 6k. also a couple days before i dieted down for the beack so i guess my body just bounced back. im standing strong and solid at 200lbs im pretty confident i can get up to 220 as a final weight from this cycle especially when the growth is incorporated things should be come very interesting!!!
stay tuned!
 
i realize i had my shirt on in these photos but there was a bunch of people in the locker room and i didnt feel like looking like a self absorbed ******* lol but you can kinda get an idea of my size.
im currently putting away atleast 5k cals a day and weight is steadily climbing and test should be kicking in sometime next week.
so here are some before pics these were taken on a leg day lol and my upper body got pumped interesting lol.
 

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promote collagen synthesis to enable me to go heavy with minor to no injury when i go on my 4 week blast stage, to help keep gains. promote further lean muscle mass and promote excess BF loss, also to help clear up skin. also using the GH to bring organ wear and tear to a minimum and to theoretically hopefully reduce the harm the steroids will bring to them, to speed recovery during cycle and on PCT again im only running the GH for 4 months but stacked with aas and t4 should yeild very promising gains
 
why do you have objections to it cause im all ears, i got a fridge where i can store it for awhileee. but honestly i dont see the harm in running it with the cycle i have set up
 
king1033 said:
why do you have objections to it cause im all ears, i got a fridge where i can store it for awhileee. but honestly i dont see the harm in running it with the cycle i have set up
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Im just feel it is best used with older subjects. imo
 
king1033 said:
let me lay it out
1-10 Test E 500mg per week
1-4 250mg Test prop
11-16 250mg Test prop.
1-16 EQ 600mg EW
adex when needed im looking around .25mg ED
HCG 250iu E3D (having trouble finding hcg :think:)

GH 4iu ED 5on 2off
t4 50mcg ED and dosed according to blood tests every 3rd week

PCT
Clomid: 100 days 1-5, 50mg days 6-15, 25mg days 16-30
Torem: 60mg days 1-5, 30mg days 6-15
fenugreek: 3 grams ED and dose accordingly
maca: 3 grams ED and dose accordingly (adjustments)
SAMe: 400mg enteric tab every morning
NADH: 10mg morning
drive 6 caps daily
6-oxo low dose
(im kinding using the pct as force of green wrote as i liked it a lot)
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I like most of it, but there are a few things I would change...I wouldnt try to use prop to get it rolling, I would just wait for the enan to kick in on its own...your running 16 weeks, so let it take its course...it would be different if you had to run a shorter cycle and had to truly optimize your timeframe....I would just run whatever prop you have to finish up with, and if you dont already have it on hand, just run enan the whole time to make it simpler with your injects....I really like EQ, and I think 600mgs is great...I used to run a little more than that in solo cycles and loved it by itself...I doubt you'll truly need the adex, but its great to have and use just because...LOL....

The GH is exactly the way I lay it out for most of my clients...5 on and 2 off...Ive seen fantastic results even on 2IU ED....I dont like to play with the thyroid, but unless your cursed you should be safe with that amount...

The general theme on this board seems to be extreme overkill on the PCT, and I think this fits the bill....BUT, I would never criticize for erring on the positive side, so more power to you there, I just dont think you'll need all that...

All in all, I think it looks really good...I wish half my clients had enough logic to put something together anywhere near this logical.

holy
 
holyintellect said:
I like most of it, but there are a few things I would change...I wouldnt try to use prop to get it rolling, I would just wait for the enan to kick in on its own...your running 16 weeks, so let it take its course...it would be different if you had to run a shorter cycle and had to truly optimize your timeframe....I would just run whatever prop you have to finish up with, and if you dont already have it on hand, just run enan the whole time to make it simpler with your injects....I really like EQ, and I think 600mgs is great...I used to run a little more than that in solo cycles and loved it by itself...I doubt you'll truly need the adex, but its great to have and use just because...LOL....

The GH is exactly the way I lay it out for most of my clients...5 on and 2 off...Ive seen fantastic results even on 2IU ED....I dont like to play with the thyroid, but unless your cursed you should be safe with that amount...

The general theme on this board seems to be extreme overkill on the PCT, and I think this fits the bill....BUT, I would never criticize for erring on the positive side, so more power to you there, I just dont think you'll need all that...

All in all, I think it looks really good...I wish half my clients had enough logic to put something together anywhere near this logical.

holy
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hey holy thanks for the response,
i need to update my cycle i left out that i have switched up my pct that looks like so
Week
1-2:
HCG:
2000IU every 3rd day for a total of 5 shots (2 weeks)

Week
3-5:
Clomid:
50mg 2x per day for 3 weeks

Week
6-9:
OFF (might run EQ or primo for a cruise)

adex .5mg ED to ensure that estrogen doesnt prevent recovery.

i forgot to post about that. also with the prop yea i was gonna jumpstart with it but i changed my mind i think i am going to use prop to while the long esters clear my system so i can come off more effeciantly. do you agree with my blast phase?? 4 weeks of the tren and mast mid cycle.
thanks again bro
 
I like that PCT much better....I just am not a fan of overkill....

I dont believe in "cruising" or "bridging". If you're coming off, come off. Let your nads come back, and then go at it again...I used to run EQ alone and loved it, but I think coming off means coming off.

Tren is one of my all time favorites...I always think it can be a great addition to any cycle. Here is what I would do...

1-10 prop
1-6 tren
1-16 EQ

and leave everything else the same....its simple, logical, and easy to plan your injects.

holy
 
do you feel that it would be a bad idea to run the tren A right over the Test E, because im already on the test E, mid cycle i was looking to do the 4 weeker of the shorter esters (mast, prop) on top of the long ester of Test, or would it be better to run the prop along with tren and mast and cut out the Test E?? im confused i guess theoretically it wouldnt be a problem but everything always sounds good on paper :lol:.
what did you experiance when you ran the EQ solo did it supress you at all??
also in about a week or so im going to incorporate the GH into cycle to prepare my tendons and ligaments for the blast phase so i can get my strength as high as possible without injuring myself. obiously i have a lot of ideas and am having some trouble pin pointing what exsactly i wanna do. it seems like my original idea can be modified into somthing more practical. so your thoughts?
holyintellect said:
I like that PCT much better....I just am not a fan of overkill....

I dont believe in "cruising" or "bridging". If you're coming off, come off. Let your nads come back, and then go at it again...I used to run EQ alone and loved it, but I think coming off means coming off.

Tren is one of my all time favorites...I always think it can be a great addition to any cycle. Here is what I would do...

1-10 prop
1-6 tren
1-16 EQ

and leave everything else the same....its simple, logical, and easy to plan your injects.

holy
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EQ alone for me at 600-800mgs did not cause any suppression (or at least any that I was able to tell without bloodwork). I really liked it, and its one of my favorite chemicals....its mild obviously, but other than that it has its practical uses.

I dont know any easy way to say this other than to just say it...Why on earth would you think that running two types of test at the same time would have some type of extra benefit beyond running just one ester? All the attached ester does is determine the rate of release after the injection. Essentialy your body is going to "see" the same thing after it releases. If you're already running enan, just keep going and add the tren to it...I like prop better and it certainly makes it easier to do the sticking since prop and tren can be loaded together and stuck together on the same ED or EOD schedule...But other than that, enan isnt going to be some type of deal breaker...

As far as the GH goes, there are a few schools of thought there..what exactly were you planning?

holy
 
no i didnt understand your previous post, my original plan was to run the tren on top of the enan, im using the prop at the end of cycle while the long esters clear, i agree i wasnt goign to use the prop over the enan simple misunderstanding. anyways im gonna grab some EQ and throw it into the mix run it for 16 weeks at 600mg, The Gh i might just do 2-3iu in the AM (most catabolic time of the day) or 2iu am and 2iu Post workout. still debating. 5 on 2 off.

agian what did u experiance from the eq?

thanks holy


holyintellect said:
EQ alone for me at 600-800mgs did not cause any suppression (or at least any that I was able to tell without bloodwork). I really liked it, and its one of my favorite chemicals....its mild obviously, but other than that it has its practical uses.

I dont know any easy way to say this other than to just say it...Why on earth would you think that running two types of test at the same time would have some type of extra benefit beyond running just one ester? All the attached ester does is determine the rate of release after the injection. Essentialy your body is going to "see" the same thing after it releases. If you're already running enan, just keep going and add the tren to it...I like prop better and it certainly makes it easier to do the sticking since prop and tren can be loaded together and stuck together on the same ED or EOD schedule...But other than that, enan isnt going to be some type of deal breaker...

As far as the GH goes, there are a few schools of thought there..what exactly were you planning?

holy
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Im 6'3 and my weight fluctuates between 285-300#s, yet I still got more vascular while using EQ...my endurance was much better in the gym, even on anaerobic exercises. Of course, my strength went up slightly. Just the normal stuff you'd associate with steroids except no sides at all. EXCEPT for the unbelievable hunger. I know its cliche, but I swear to God if it wasnt nailed down I could have eaten it. If you're already a fairly lean person, EQ will complement your physique nicely....There wont be crazy results, its not an androgen. I tend to like anabolics better though...

holy
 
holyintellect said:
Im 6'3 and my weight fluctuates between 285-300#s, yet I still got more vascular while using EQ...my endurance was much better in the gym, even on anaerobic exercises. Of course, my strength went up slightly. Just the normal stuff you'd associate with steroids except no sides at all. EXCEPT for the unbelievable hunger. I know its cliche, but I swear to God if it wasnt nailed down I could have eaten it. If you're already a fairly lean person, EQ will complement your physique nicely....There wont be crazy results, its not an androgen. I tend to like anabolics better though...

holy
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yea im pretty excited to see what EQ could add to my frame but i may just keep it simple to the test/mast/tren combo because i feel like id be getting outta hand if i threw the eq in, i like the idea of running solo like you did, maybe a month or so after pct i could do a solo EQ run or maybe a EQ/primo run thats far down the road, anyways u were saying before about the GH what were your thoughts on that?
 
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