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GETTING the SKINNY on ELIMISTANE

kenpoengineer said:
From reading about TRT and talking to others here on AM, this protocol is terrible. Should be something like 60 mg test injection every 3.5 days. I'm sure BigT can comment.
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I totally agree. The doctors are just so damn stubborn. Maybe I should try to see an Endo
 
Driven2lift said:
More frequent administration is the better TRT option IMO. Energy tends to drop when it is close to the next injection time if they are far apart.

My endo is a fan of Androgel assuming transdermal application works for you.
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i actually had good results with androgel[once i added in dmso]....probably the reason your endo is a fan is because of the everyday application, keeps level more even without the ups and downs.
 
kenpoengineer said:
From reading about TRT and talking to others here on AM, this protocol is terrible. Should be something like 60 mg test injection every 3.5 days. I'm sure BigT can comment.
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originally my doc prescribed 400mg every 21 days....since i was self injecting i went with 1.25mg every week....currently i am on 200mg weekly and this works fine, i kinda like the boost i get on injection day!!!
 
thebigt said:
i actually had good results with androgel[once i added in dmso]....probably the reason your endo is a fan is because of the everyday application, keeps level more even without the ups and downs.
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Exactly why he recommends it, and why I like it as well
 
So I started another log that has to do with my test, test numbers & future results on my numbers as well as the hormone panel. If anyone would like to follow.

In the ring with HPTA and Ironchamp
 
DAY 23
Morning weight 181.0
Everything is going as planed.. Lol
No really everything is really good. Nothing really new to speak of except I've been increasing my water intake. Been super thirsty latley especially in the morning & been pretty hungry to which means I'm grubb'n.joints are starting to feel it a little more to. My weight been sticking. I'm thinking you will be able to see some small if not good results in my after pics. I wish I would have taken measurements.
8 more caps left.
PWO was Driven mixed with C4
Upright BB row (warm up)
(55x10) x3
BB standing curls
(55x5)
(55x10) x2
(55x7)
Flat BB BP
(135x5) x2
(135x3)
(165x2)
(115x10)
(135x3)
DB pullover
(20x15)
(22.5x10)
(25x10)
(30x10)
(30x15)
(35x10)
(30x15)
Standing OHP
(55x10)
(65x10)
(75x5) x2
Circle shrugs Fwd & Bkwd per arm
(25x25) x2
Trap shrugs per arm
(40x20)
(50x25) x2
(50x28)
Abs V-ups on a bench
(25,30,30,30)
 
skinnybones said:
<img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=110851"/> Here is where I do most of my playing. Got another incline one in my bedroom.
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Nice setup!
 
Damn dude, that is a very nice setup! I wish I had some equipment in my house. Just not enough room.
 
DAY 24 yesterday
Morning weight 182.0

I woke up feeling good but hella sore. I did a couple new lifts on day 23 & the DOMs are hurt'n :)

I did this at work: Push ups (25,20,20,20,25)
And at my lunch break I did this:Flat BB BP (115x12) x3

Seriously after work I slept from 5pm-5am , after I killed about 1700 cals.
 
DAY 26
Morning weight 182.0
Ok sorry for the lack of up date.
The Elimistane is cutting me up guys and here during the last week and a half I've been able to add and keep on a few pounds which I know is all muscle. Not very often have I felt soreness in my joints. Some clicking when I go a little heavier on the weights but I haven't pushed myself as far as maxing at this time.
I'm very pleased that my Moobs are almost gone & arms are bigger. I'll post pics on Wednesday , which is the last cap & the 30th day.
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On a different note I want to appologize to BPS for starting another log during this last week. I wasn't trying to be greedy or anything like that. I just thought I could help out by providing bloods.
My bad guys :( please don't hate me.

OHP reverse grip
(55x10) x 2
(65x10) x 3
DB pullover
(22.5x10) x 2
(25x10)
(30x12) x2
(35x12)
(40x10)
Arnold press
(27.5x10) x 5
BB squats
(115x5) x 2
(115x10) x 2
 
Looking forward to seeing the before and after pics! Sure, you may have started another log, but as long as you fulfill your commitment to this one all the way through, it's all good.
 
Larger arms and decreasing moobs size FTW! Nice job Skinny! I wouldn't sweat the log thing as your intentions were good. Can't wait to see the pictures of your changes.
 
DAY 27
Morning weight 184.5.......not sure about my scale today. 184.5 seems more than normal. Gonna change the battery. Hope it's true tho.

BB squats
(135x5) x 5
(165x2)
Single leg quad Extentions
(35x5) x 2
(40x10) x 2
(45x4)
Hammy's
(25x10) x2
(30x5) x2
Pull ups
BW 184.5/ 6,8,8,5
One arm DB row
(35x10)
(40x10)
(50x5) x 3
(35x15)

While doing squats today my knees were creaking a lot. More than usual. Not hurting just loud.
I have also noticed in just the last few days that my face been more oily than usual but no acne at all.
Still feeling that constant flow of energy throughout the day even if I happen to be fasting at the time. This compound IMO would be great to run with a strong test booster. There's no doubt the potential for gaining mass with Elimistane stacked. I've experienced some already running it solo.
 
skinnybones said:
DAY 27 Morning weight 184.5.......not sure about my scale today. 184.5 seems more than normal. Gonna change the battery. Hope it's true tho. BB squats (135x5) x 5 (165x2) Single leg quad Extentions (35x5) x 2 (40x10) x 2 (45x4) Hammy's (25x10) x2 (30x5) x2 Pull ups BW 184.5/ 6,8,8,5 One arm DB row (35x10) (40x10) (50x5) x 3 (35x15) While doing squats today my knees were creaking a lot. More than usual. Not hurting just loud. I have also noticed in just the last few days that my face been more oily than usual but no acne at all. Still feeling that constant flow of energy throughout the day even if I happen to be fasting at the time. This compound IMO would be great to run with a strong test booster. There's no doubt the potential for gaining mass with Elimistane stacked. I've experienced some already running it solo.
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I guess im one of the lucky ones who arimistane doesnt bother their joints! :)
 
DAY 28
Morning weight 184.0

Flat BB BP
(115x10) x 2
(135x5) x 4
(140x3) x 4

Arnold press
(25x10) x 2
(27.5x10) x 4
(27.5x6)
(25x15)

DB curls
(25x10) x 5
(25x12)
(25x9)

Warm up circle shrugs

Trap shrugs with 2 second squeeze at top
(35x25)
(37.5x25) x3

Abs V-ups
25,30,30,30

Sweating like a mofo during workout today & at work. Also seems like I've become super sensitive to smells, go figure.

I busted out 2 sex sessions in a row yesterday. That hasn't happened in a long time. Gotta be the Elimistane.

Hit a small PR tonight. Absolutely getting stronger from this and had some F'n serious pumps tonight. Long workout with lots of endurance.
 
Awesome work in here, man. Sorry I haven't been in much, a bit down with a cold and busy with work!

Seems like Elimistane is helping you pack on some mass and cut you up at the same time :)
 
Misfit28 said:
Awesome work in here, man. Sorry I haven't been in much, a bit down with a cold and busy with work!

Seems like Elimistane is helping you pack on some mass and cut you up at the same time :)
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It's no problem :) I'm glad you pop in from time to time.
Yeah I gained a little mass, got cut a little & the weight started sticking around week 3.
I got 1 cap left ..... Tomorrow's the last day.
 
DAY 29
Morning weight 184.0

Woke up with a small headache that lasted a few hours.
I rested and did not workout. First in four or five I think. Ate a bunch of food & went to bed early.
 
DAY 30
Morning weight 183.5

Woke up with a small headache again today but it was gone a little faster that yesterday's.
My endurance is down a little bit but in general still feeling good & tight/sore.

Flat BB BP
(115x3) x 3
(120x3)
(125x3)
(135x3)
(140x3)
(145x3)
(150x3)
(155x3)
(115x10) x 2

Delt Destroyer's
(20x10) x 6

BB squats
(135x5) x 6

I got one cap left. I either missed a day or got an extra. Either way tomorrow is my last one.
 
skinnybones said:
DAY 30 Morning weight 183.5 Woke up with a small headache again today but it was gone a little faster that yesterday's. My endurance is down a little bit but in general still feeling good & tight/sore. Flat BB BP (115x3) x 3 (120x3) (125x3) (135x3) (140x3) (145x3) (150x3) (155x3) (115x10) x 2 Delt Destroyer's (20x10) x 6 BB squats (135x5) x 6 I got one cap left. I either missed a day or got an extra. Either way tomorrow is my last one.
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Nice lifting even though you felt a little off!
 
I like the volume in that session. Nice job Skinny! One more cap in my bottle as well. When is your bloodwork due?
 
Thanks guys :)
Bloods I'm not sure of at the moment. Been having some problems with my doc. Possibly gonna try to do bloods some where else I think.
 
Nice lifting, man! It's crazy how you don't fel like lifting, but go anyway and feel better after. At least it is for me.

However, a cold has kept me out of the gym since last Sunday. I'm hoping to be well enough to Deadlift on Saturday or Sunday.
 
skinnybones said:
Thanks guys :)
Bloods I'm not sure of at the moment. Been having some problems with my doc. Possibly gonna try to do bloods some where else I think.
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you dont need a doctor for bloods, unless you live in like NJ, or NY you can get them directly from quest and usually cheaper if you just get total t
 
Works been keeping me out of the gym this week. Not a huge deal because I would be deloading after the meet but I'm going to have to figure something out this coming week.
 
braskibra said:
you dont need a doctor for bloods, unless you live in like NJ, or NY you can get them directly from quest and usually cheaper if you just get total t
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Thanks Bra
You just saved me a ton of BS.
I have an appointment with Quest tomorrow for bloods. I'm not sure how fast they are so I'm hoping for results on Monday.
 
skinnybones said:
Thanks Bra
You just saved me a ton of BS.
I have an appointment with Quest tomorrow for bloods. I'm not sure how fast they are so I'm hoping for results on Monday.
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go online select which panel you want and pay, total test is like 50 bucks, the hormone panel is more expensive i cant remember how much, the website to that is inconjunction with quest is like private labs or something, you d have to google it. On there you can select what you want and then print out the sheet and take it with you to quest and you wont have to pay anything at quest at all and dont need insurance card

make sure you do that before you go
 
I had the female hormone panel done so I can see more than just test levels. The test was a little over $50 and includes:

-Estradiol, serum;
-Follicle-Stimulating Hormone (FSH);
-Luteinizing Hormone (LH);
-Testosterone, Serum (Total Only); -Complete Blood Count (CBC) w/ Differential: Hematocrit; hemoglobin; mean corpuscular volume (MCV); mean corpuscular hemoglobin (MCH); mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentration (MCHC); red cell distribution width (RDW); percentage and absolute differential counts; platelet count; red cell count; white blood cell count; immature granulocytes.
-Comprehensive Metabolic Profile (CMP) (includes eGFR): A:G ratio; albumin, serum; alkaline phosphatase, serum; ALT (SGPT); AST (SGOT); bilirubin, total; BUN; BUN:creatinine ratio; calcium, serum; carbon dioxide, total; chloride, serum; creatinine, serum; globulin, total; glucose, serum; potassium, serum; protein, total, serum; sodium, serum.
 
kenpoengineer said:
I had the female hormone panel done so I can see more than just test levels. The test was a little over $50 and includes:

-Estradiol, serum;
-Follicle-Stimulating Hormone (FSH);
-Luteinizing Hormone (LH);
-Testosterone, Serum (Total Only); -Complete Blood Count (CBC) w/ Differential: Hematocrit; hemoglobin; mean corpuscular volume (MCV); mean corpuscular hemoglobin (MCH); mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentration (MCHC); red cell distribution width (RDW); percentage and absolute differential counts; platelet count; red cell count; white blood cell count; immature granulocytes.
-Comprehensive Metabolic Profile (CMP) (includes eGFR): A:G ratio; albumin, serum; alkaline phosphatase, serum; ALT (SGPT); AST (SGOT); bilirubin, total; BUN; BUN:creatinine ratio; calcium, serum; carbon dioxide, total; chloride, serum; creatinine, serum; globulin, total; glucose, serum; potassium, serum; protein, total, serum; sodium, serum.
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Very nice Kenpo , thank you.
 
I'm curious as well. I'll be going around 11:00 am today. I should have everything including after pics posted either tonight or sat afternoon for sure.
Thanks again guys it's all ways fun :)
 
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