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Gstyle24

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After much debate and research on what I should take, I'm deciding on Super DMZ 2.0 solo. I feel like this was the easy part though. The part I'm having the hardest time with and the most important is PCT and after PCT. There are just hundreds of different products and brands out there, it's hard to decide what's right for myself. Keeping my gains and avoiding any rebound gyno is my biggest concern with doing a cycle.

I have decided on Nolvadex for the SERM, so I guess I'm looking for some recommendations on what PCT and liver support ya'll think would be best for this, or if an AI would also be necessary.
 
Super Dmz 2.0 is highly toxic for the liver bro, M-sten+Dmz. As cycle support i would grab a bottle of Ar1macare Pro and Tudca by Olympus Labs.For pct keep it simple: Nolva,Sup3r PCT and maybe the new OL LJ100 it will helps a lot in your pct(libido,sex drive, HTPA).
 
Lucianooo said:
Super Dmz 2.0 is highly toxic for the liver bro, M-sten+Dmz. As cycle support i would grab a bottle of Ar1macare Pro and Tudca by Olympus Labs.For pct keep it simple: Nolva,Sup3r PCT and maybe the new OL LJ100 it will helps a lot in your pct(libido,sex drive, HTPA).
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Yeah it's not as mild as I wanted but it's the least harsh one I could find available now. I've been doing test boosters the last 6 months so I'm just ready to do it big.

The rest sounds good though I'll look into those.
 
Dosage: 20/40/40/40. ^^^good Advice above. OL Tudca and arimacare pro would be best protection and value for your dollar. It's pretty basic cycle. Without adding more stuff you might have to fight through some lethargy and back pumps but that's okay. Those type of sides aren't detrimental if you can tough em out. PCT is where I put the most thought and money. Personally as a consumer I love OL and CEL as brands that work and aren't overpriced. There's others to be sure, but I've come to trust just about anything from those two. Have an AI on hand regardless of whether you use it or not. OTC or pharma is your choice. The need is not high on this cycle but the risk is always there so have one just in case.
 
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Jebrook said:
Dosage: 20/40/40/40. ^^^good Advice above. OL Tudca and arimacare pro would be best protection and value for your dollar. It's pretty basic cycle. Without adding more stuff you might have to fight through some lethargy and back pumps but that's okay. Those type of sides aren't detrimental if you can tough em out. PCT is where I put the most thought and money. Personally as a consumer I love OL and CEL as brands that work and aren't overpriced. There's others to be sure, but I've come to trust just about anything from those two. Have an AI on hand regardless of whether you use it or not. OTC or pharma is your choice. The need is not high on this cycle but the risk is always there so have one just in case.
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Right on. I'll go with the 2 caps a day of the Super DMZ. With a 4 week cycle of it, I know to start taking the liver support 2 weeks prior, but what do ya'll think about extending the ar1macare and Tudca into the PCT?

And also from what I've read the PCT should start the day after I'm done with the 4 week Super DMZ cycle,

So this is what I'm looking at, let me know if anything looks wrong:

Week 1-2: Pre-load Cycle Support, @ Bottle Recommended dosages.
Week 2: Cycle/Life Support | Super DMZ 2 caps a day
Week 3-6: Cycle/Life Support | Super DMZ 2 caps a day
Week 7: Cycle/Life Support | Nolvadex 30mg | PCT product at bottle recommendations.
Week 8-9: Cycle/Life Support | Nolvadex 20mg | PCT product at bottle recommendations.
Week 10: Cycle/Life Support | Nolvadex 10mg | PCT product at bottle recommendations.
 
The preload isn't a necessity. The main ingredient to preload is Hawthorne berry because it will spike blood pressure initially before it starts to lower it. HB is cheap as a standalone from an OTC pharmacy. Preload milk thistle or NAC for your liver if you feel you need it. Buy it separately too. Each is 5-8$ at a walmart pharmacy dept. NAC or Sam-E are > than milk thistle IMO. However if you're not a heavy drinker or ever had liver issues I would save some $$ and skip preloading the liver stuff. If money isn't a concern by all means preload the cycle support but you will need a couple bottles. Running the support into PCT is recommended to repair damage done on cycle. I personally stop my Tudca after the cycle as it is expensive. Arimacare should suffice in PCT and can finish up whatever you choose to preload if you do that. PCT starts day after last cycle dose. Run Nolvadex 4 weeks: 20/20/10/10.
Couple little tweaks but overall looks good. Couple tips: stay hydrated everyday day ( gallon or more)., and take DMZ dosage with with foods with some healthy fats in them. Good luck. Hit me up if you have anymore questions.
 
^^Good stuff... I've never had any liver issues and I wouldn't say I'm a heavy drinker, but I definitely drink 2-3 nights a week(stress and socialize reasons haha), so maybe it would be a good idea to pre load it and keep it going during PCT. I mean of course I'd like to spend as less as possible, but better safe than sorry and I believe in getting what you pay for.

By the way I have 2 weeks left of my Alphamax test booster bottle and was just planning on starting the PH a couple weeks after I'm done with this, so I'm wandering how that will go after using a test booster...
 
Gstyle24 said:
By the way I have 2 weeks left of my Alphamax test booster bottle and was just planning on starting the PH a couple weeks after I'm done with this, so I'm wandering how that will go after using a test booster...
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Seems like it should have been the other way around . . . PH cycle followed by PCT w/ test booster
 
You're fine to start the cycle after the test booster, or stop it now and add it to your PCT. doesn't really matter. Make sure you don't drink during the four weeks you are on. One here and there won't kill your liver but it will definitely hinder your gains, so abstain for the cycle and pct preferably.
 
You shouldn't drink on cycle. Maybe once if something pops up and you feel the absolute need but this year a kid I know ran a ph (one with three compounds) and drank on weekends and by the third week he was in the hospital for drug induced hepatitis . **** messed him up and it was because he didn't respect the harshness of it.

Now he may have had an undiagnosed medical problem as well that lead to it but I feel if you are really going to do something do it right! And if one can't abstain from drinking for a few weeks then maybe gear should just be avoided altogether. Just my opinion and I think it was just a fluke but the possibility is real.

Good luck bro and make sure you have a real serm and AI for pct.
 
That is scary to hear, and I know everyone here is gonna think it's really stupid, but to have no social life for a month is a really tough thing to do. All I can do is try to cut back as much as possible. When I was first doing PHs 7-8 years ago and I didn't know a damn thing, I was drinking all the time on them. I didn't get any health issues from it luckily. I also have a buddy that injects the real gear and he drinks pretty much everyday and he's been doing it a long time.

Do you know which compounds were in the PH he ran?
 
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