get a serm, there's no excuse (newbs read this!)

Trauma1 said:
I just watch my avy now when i get aggravated. It's very soothing and distracting! lol! :thumbsup:
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DAMN, I just watched it for the 1st time and threw up all over myself again, but in a different way :o

She grew up about a half hour from me :thumbsup:
 
Ziquor said:
DAMN, I just watched it for the 1st time and threw up all over myself again, but in a different way :o

She grew up about a half hour from me :thumbsup:
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Yeah, i never realized how therapeutic it really is. :p

Guided imagery really is a calming intervention, haha!
 
bualls23 said:
i'm new to the board and just wanted to post a thread for the newbs(which i am) about nolva/clomid/tor as a serm. i see alot of people buying the cycle of their choice, starting them, and then wondering about otc pct, where their balls/gains went, why their moobs (man boobs) leak, or if they should have nolva, or how to get it. i may be new to this,but common sense would tell me to you get your pct sorted first, and then look into what cycle to do. and as for the difficulty in acquiring nolva/clomid/tor etc, stop being silly about it being prescription only, and its too hard to get. i have been reading on here a few months, and decided to try and get the most difficult buy first, ie: nolva. suprisingly, it took about 20 minutes of googling and a credit card, and i now have 2 pct's worth of nolva in my hands. total time: 20 minutes searching, 3 days waiting for the post, and about 10 seconds opening the said post.it is unbelievebly easy, just put the effort in. i still have no intention of doing a cycle any time soon, but at least i know i have a decent serm ready just in case. bottom line. don't rely on otc pct, a serm is as simple to acquire as m-drol or 6-oxo, or whatever else you choose to use. be smart, get your serm, cover your bases, then buy your m-drol, i don't think they'll sell out anytime soon.
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Ahhhhh, Google-medicine, very prolific.

Is this what many estimate as doing the body "good." Please continue your "research," however, I would encourage more valid resources.


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2k2ser said:
Getting a SERM is not as difficult as some people make it out to be. The entire process should take less than a week, shipping included. Find another source if it takes any longer! I still keep reading "I've been waiting for almost a month", etc. Someone with 2 posts is saying it's easy.....time for everyone to stop making it into a big ordeal. Good post!
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This assumes you are lucky enough to find a legit site your first try. I would guess that more sites than not are just credit card phishing schemes.

Depends whether having your credit card stolen and having to explain to the authorities you were trying to use it for something illegal is worth it to you.
 
wtf??? ooooook. I wouldnt purchase from a site unless I had a reference for em in the first place. Explain to athorities that I was purchasing perfectly legal research chems??? or even at that are they going to ask for my script to give me my money back?

thats just silly sir.
 
Preepin' for an epi run in Nov,.. learned so much from this site,...thanks!!!
 
HI guys I have an intersting thread in the steroid forum talking about serm and otc lots of good information from some smart people and the gist of the thread is about HAVING to serm vs not having to.
 
bualls23 said:
as well:

Tamoxifen (Nolvadex) & Men with Heart Disease

Importance of the study: The same drug that treats and helps reduce the risk of breast cancer in women may help unclog arteries in men, possibly leading to a lower risk of heart attack.

Study description: Thirty-one men with coronary artery disease participated in this 56-day study conducted at Papworth Hospital in Cambridge, England. Fifteen received no tamixofen (Nolvadex) treatment, while the other 16 received 40 milligrams a day of tamoxifen (twice the daily dose women take to treat breast cancer).

All 31 men received aspirin and another drug known to reduce blockages in the arteries. Another 10 men who had angina-like symptoms (chest pain due to insufficient oxygen to the heart muscle), but normal coronary arteries, also received tamoxifen but no other treatment.

Study results: A special ultrasound technique was used to measure blood flow in the forearms of the men in the study. The arteries of the men who took tamoxifen expanded to accommodate more blood flow than the arteries of those who didn’t receive the drug.

This suggests that tamoxifen reduced the buildup of cholesterol (plaque) and reduced the arteries’ rigidity, both risk factors for heart attacks. In fact, the arteries of those who took tamoxifen resembled those of a younger person with no coronary artery disease The men taking tamoxifen also showed lower levels of cholesterol, triglycerides (a type of fat in the blood), lipoprotein(a) (a special fat-protein combination), and fibrinogen (a blood-clotting substance) —all additional risk factors for heart disease.

These tamoxifen benefits went beyond those seen in the men who took only the cholesterol-lowering drug. Take-home message: While this study was very preliminary and small, the results suggest that tamoxifen—and perhaps other drugs within the same family—may help reduce the risk of heart disease. Tamoxifen belongs to a class of drugs known as SERMs, selective estrogen receptor modulators, which mimic the actions of estrogen in some tissues of the body.
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yes exactly Tamoxifen improves blood lipid profiles, no idea where he pulled the high cholesterol from. his ass? well yes I suppose it may raise HDL cholseterol which is a good thing.
 
All I can say is wow! I just got done reading the whole 8 pages. I have nolva on hand and will be running it in pct after my hdrol cycle.
 
Iron Lungz said:
The whole OTC PCT thing is a scam, IMO. No herb is going to bring me back, or block esrto rebound like a SERM. The only herb that I would even consider while in PCT shows up on drug test, so that's a no no... :(

OTC therapy for M1T? OUCH! Say buh-bye nuts!
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what drug test would a serm come up on?
 
jeffh3c said:
what drug test would a serm come up on?
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when this post refers to "googling" how do you know who is reputable? MAny online pharms say they get you script, but I am not sure if they really do. I am new to this, but I have hard time believing they are really getting you a legal script (hope I am wrong)

So again: just googling would bring hundreds/thousands oresults. How can you tell who is safe to go with?

>>I would not want to do anything outside of f dee aye policy.
 
DONT buy from an online pharm. most likely a rip off or bunk.

These compounds are only available to the public as research chemicals, so thats what you have to look for. They are completely legal to buy/obtain/be in possesion of BUT are not intended for human consumption, only research purposes..... not even legal to use on lab rats, must be an in vitro situation I believe.

Any way dont buy from a pharm without a legit script and then you can just go to a real pharm if you have a legit script. Do not pm me asking where to find research chemicals either.
 
Just thought id bump this thread for informations sake, portion reignite the debate but regardless tons of good points in this thread that many could benefit from
 
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