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Gear process questions.

pistonpump

pistonpump

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Okay I have a few questions regarding transferring and filtering gear, etc. Hope I can get some answers.




~Say i have some oil in sachets, and I want to filter them into vials. Now i use a .22 whatman but what is the procedure on this? Do I just draw with the needle, place filter on vial and shoot needle through filter into the sterile vial?


~When buying sterile sealed vials does that mean that they are already crimped with a stopper or just sealed in airtight wrapper/container?
If they do not have stoppers, and I use butyl stoppers do they just plug into the vial or would i still need to get a crimper and crimp them?


~Lastly, I know this has been covered but I hope this isnt too much of a burden to answer but what type of sterile oil is best? Are they pretty much all the same or would something like sesame oil have plusses to fat burning etc. I mean what is the choice out of grapeseed, cottonseed, sesame, and walnut oils?

Im getting ready to order all my gear gear so I want to make sure I get it right the first time. I apprieciate the help in advance.
 
I like to heat the oil first to reduce viscosity allowing it to pass through the filter membrane at an accelerated rate.

You will need another needle in the sterile vile to act as a vent for the displacement.

Sterile viles are sealed with a stopper.

There are many preferences regarding oil. I like grapeseed for it's antioxidant effects. May consider using a blend of grapeseed and EO depending on the gear and the relative potential pain associated with it.
 
bpmartyr said:
I like to heat the oil first to reduce viscosity allowing it to pass through the filter membrane at an accelerated rate.

You will need another needle in the sterile vile to act as a vent for the displacement.

Sterile viles are sealed with a stopper.

There are many preferences regarding oil. I like grapeseed for it's antioxidant effects. May consider using a blend of grapeseed and EO depending on the gear and the relative potential pain associated with it.
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THanks alot BP.

Im still not 100% sure on the filtering. I just want to be sure with the stealth gear and I wanted to have oil on hand because I hear the BA content in it is somewhat high so if it is too painful ill add oil. I was actually going to go with grapeseed at first, thanks ill probably go with that. I believe the Test E is with peach oil.

Now i dont need to buy stoppers.

anyone else have something to add?
 
Test E is not painfull. You would need waaay more BA than they are using for enan to cause pain.
 
If you search Synovex/Test Prop you'll come up with homebrewing directions with pics that I posted not too long ago. It has the whole filtering process which is common for most/all steroids. I hope this helps you, bro.

As far as your other questions, I believe they've been answered so I won't be redundant.

EDIT: I'm bored at work. Here's the link lol:

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I'm just going by what I've read on other forums (no experience myslef) but I've heard good things about ethyl oleate oil. Apperently it disipates much better into the muscle and keeps the steroid from crystalizing (which is what gives the pain). It is much more expensive than grape seed oil but the pain is much less.
 
With longer esters, such as cyp or enth, you wont need EO. You need to use very little BA when dealing with those types of esters. EO is great when using shorter esters.
 
xxtruxx1 said:
If you search Synovex/Test Prop you'll come up with homebrewing directions with pics that I posted not too long ago. It has the whole filtering process which is common for most/all steroids. I hope this helps you, bro.

As far as your other questions, I believe they've been answered so I won't be redundant.

EDIT: I'm bored at work. Here's the link lol:

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Thanks, Ive read that thread and it is a very good addition to the board but my questions pretty much were on different lines then what that thread covered.

I know some of these questions may have been answer and for sure the oil question has been disscussed but i dont see why it cant be asked again just for further disscussion. I know that any type can be used but i was wondering the pros of certain oils.

My main question was how the vials come when you buy them sealed and sterilized and also how to ACTUALLY use a whatman filter. That question was still not answered here but on another board someone explained it to me. It basically screws onto the syringe and then the needle screws on to it.
 
bpmartyr said:
Test E is not painfull. You would need waaay more BA than they are using for enan to cause pain.
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Well I thought so as well but some have reported this oil to be somewhat more painful than other long ester oils. I dont know why, if its BA, or just sterilization issues with the individual removing the oil from the packs. I was just going to pick some oil up "just in case".
 
One more question. Can I re-use a whatman filter say for 8 or more vials all at the same moment. Will it still work?
 
yes, it's placed between the leuer lock and the needle.

You can put two needles in the vial, one whatman on a needle that you just placed in the vial..

Place another needle on the drawing syringe. Draw with the syringe, cap and pop the needle, put it down on a clean/sterile surface, and place the loaded barrel on the already-affixed whatman sitting on the needle that's in the vial. screw it on, and make sure that both needles in the vial are not in close proximity to each other. THis is only because that the venting pin will suck up what you are trying to place in the vial. :D push it through, don't try too hard. Unscrew it from the Whatman and affix the drawing pin back on.. repeat.

I've filtered up to 100ml with a whatman.. some clog earlier with different compounds
 
Ubiquitous said:
yes, it's placed between the leuer lock and the needle.

You can put two needles in the vial, one whatman on a needle that you just placed in the vial..

Place another needle on the drawing syringe. Draw with the syringe, cap and pop the needle, put it down on a clean/sterile surface, and place the loaded barrel on the already-affixed whatman sitting on the needle that's in the vial. screw it on, and make sure that both needles in the vial are not in close proximity to each other. THis is only because that the venting pin will suck up what you are trying to place in the vial. :D push it through, don't try too hard. Unscrew it from the Whatman and affix the drawing pin back on.. repeat.

I've filtered up to 100ml with a whatman.. some clog earlier with different compounds
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Thanks for the tips.

Ill be drawing from sachets, dont think i need to vent, do i?
 
Ubiquitous said:
you vent when you put the oil in the vial, equalizing the pressure.
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Okay well i think i got it. Just that your last post seemed like you were talking about drawing from one sealed vial and transferring to another sealed vial. Ill be drawing from sachets and transfering to vials.
 
Piston, I purposely left out referencing what you are drawing from to make this a more generalized approach.

The way I outlined works for filtering anything.. out of a flask, sachet, vial.. anything. :)
 
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