GDA for bulking?

Agreed with the above. Slinmax is an awersome product that you can use for bulk.
 
Used slinmax a few times and it's great if you want to go heavy on the carbs, agmatine useful also before big carb meal to induce killer pumps
 
Fourth? Fifth? recommendation for Slinmax. I think bulking is actually the best time to use a GDA. They can be helpful during a cut, but when you're eating more carbs a GDA makes a huge difference. Slinmax would be a great choice
 
oh yeaaaa ive had great success with glycophase
 
Gdas can be a great help when bulking (IMO this is when they’re MOST useful). Sns glycophase (recently updated) is one of the most comprehensive and wel doses on the market.
 
SNS or Redcon1 are both amazing, the hype around Primeval's was just hype, I used it plenty of times, nothing special, id take RPG or Glycophase or Predator over it any day
 
GQdaLEGEND said:
oh yeaaaa ive had great success with glycophase
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I have 2 jars of Glycophase and I'm using 2 caps before breakfast which is usually my post workout
meal about 45min to an hour after my post workout protein shake. My breakfast usually consists of
about 70 gm of carbs so I haven't yet ventured into more than 2 caps but I might experiment soon
with 3 caps then maybe 4 if I feel I need it. I've used other brands of GDA's over the years with some
being better than others so I'll see how I like this version over the last verson Glycophase.:)
 
I personally just use Apple Cider Vinegar in the mornings (Slows insulin spikes) then i just use Ceylon cinnamon on most my foods ie oats etc (Insulin Mimecker) lucky if both these cost a £5 for a months worth. Cheap and effective. Anything with Agmatine just raises my appetite far too much and berberine needs to be taken away from workouts as it can inhibit protein synthesis. If your looking to save then these are cheap and good options
 
soxbsbll05 said:
How would you guys' dose MassMax and a GDA during a bulk?
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MassMax 2 with your pre workout meal and 2 with your meal highest in protein.

SlinMax 10-20 minutes before a carb rich meal.

bell1986 said:
I personally just use Apple Cider Vinegar in the mornings (Slows insulin spikes) then i just use Ceylon cinnamon on most my foods ie oats etc (Insulin Mimecker) lucky if both these cost a £5 for a months worth. Cheap and effective. Anything with Agmatine just raises my appetite far too much and berberine needs to be taken away from workouts as it can inhibit protein synthesis. If your looking to save then these are cheap and good options
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I do this, along with using GDAs. ACV in the morning, no matter what, ACV before meals with carbs, and ACV at night, before bed, regardless of carbs. Cinnamon on everything, I love the stuff.
 
Yes. This would make it a cleaner bulk as long as the foods you are choosing are designed to keep you lean as well. These will aid in shuttering nutrients to the body.
 
Another vote for ACV all around the day. Just a solid staple
 
bell1986 said:
I personally just use Apple Cider Vinegar in the mornings (Slows insulin spikes) then i just use Ceylon cinnamon on most my foods ie oats etc (Insulin Mimecker) lucky if both these cost a £5 for a months worth. Cheap and effective. Anything with Agmatine just raises my appetite far too much and berberine needs to be taken away from workouts as it can inhibit protein synthesis. If your looking to save then these are cheap and good options
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Good stuff here brother, thank you. So drink Apple Cider Vinegar before meals?
 
bell1986 said:
I personally just use Apple Cider Vinegar in the mornings (Slows insulin spikes) then i just use Ceylon cinnamon on most my foods ie oats etc (Insulin Mimecker) lucky if both these cost a £5 for a months worth. Cheap and effective. Anything with Agmatine just raises my appetite far too much and berberine needs to be taken away from workouts as it can inhibit protein synthesis. If your looking to save then these are cheap and good options
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What kind of 'dose' of ACV and the Ceylon Cinnamon do you use and with what timing? Ty...
 
bigsmall said:
What kind of 'dose' of ACV and the Ceylon Cinnamon do you use and with what timing? Ty...
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I take around a 15-20ml shot or so? Just a small chug from the bottle tbh. Cinnamon. They say 7g is a very effective dose. I would just spread a decent amount through out the day. I use around 2-3g on oats.. 2g in Yoghurts etc. I even put cinnamon on toast & sweet potatoes etc. I love the stuff so i almost overdose at times lol.. Remember to buy Ceylon cinnamon. Cassia cinnamon has an additon that overtime in large amounts will actually raise liver enzymes as its slightly toxic. Ceylon has only trace amounts and won't cause issues.
 
shockrock3 said:
Good stuff here brother, thank you. So drink Apple Cider Vinegar before meals?
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Yes before meals or even when you first wake up and just have one before bed also. The taste is pretty vile but just chug back some water or juice after the shot and think of alllllll those health benefits
 
Im c********ing right now with SlinRX (gymnemna,cinnamon,berberine,R-ALA,banaba) and some other goodies. Gained 2Kg but seems like I lost fat at the midsection.
Doing 20min slow cardio after each session. Its alot harder to gain weight on a GDA atleast for me, but it seems like the weight it spread out good on the body
 
bell1986 said:
I take around a 15-20ml shot or so? Just a small chug from the bottle tbh. Cinnamon. They say 7g is a very effective dose. I would just spread a decent amount through out the day. I use around 2-3g on oats.. 2g in Yoghurts etc. I even put cinnamon on toast & sweet potatoes etc. I love the stuff so i almost overdose at times lol.. Remember to buy Ceylon cinnamon. Cassia cinnamon has an additon that overtime in large amounts will actually raise liver enzymes as its slightly toxic. Ceylon has only trace amounts and won't cause issues.
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You are probably not in the usa, but does anyone know where to buy this in bulk cheap, I really never notice this at the grocery store
 
chainsaw said:
You are probably not in the usa, but does anyone know where to buy this in bulk cheap, I really never notice this at the grocery store
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Apple Cider Vinegar is generally found in most grocery stores. Usually 32oz bottle I believe. Ceylon Cinnamon is going to be more of a Whole Foods type option, but I haven’t seen this readily available in bulk. Probably a google search would yield something
 
Most GDA ingredients are going to drive carbs to adipose and muscle, so be weary of that. Very few ingredients (agmatine, TUDCA off the top of my head) will assist more with driving carbs to muscle tissue over adipose
 
MassMax + SlinMax is a really nice combo. Dosing has already been mentioned. SlinMax has 750mg of Agmatine per serving (2 caps).
 
Slinmax gets to work from the first dose

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I dont get wat you are saying dude, it's not illegal or anything but with regards to its half life maybe a rep can chime in

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TheBigBrodie said:
No not necessarily that. just asking how long the first dose (2 caps) will stay in my system for. Like 1-5 hours?
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I mean you could look up the half life of each ingredient if you wanted.

Respectfully, I’m not following why you’re inquiring into how long it’s in your system
 
aaronuconn said:
Apple Cider Vinegar is generally found in most grocery stores. Usually 32oz bottle I believe. Ceylon Cinnamon is going to be more of a Whole Foods type option, but I haven’t seen this readily available in bulk. Probably a google search would yield something
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In the UK it is sold in Lidl supermarket.. 49p for 50 grams. (Ground Ceylon) I usually buy around 10 jars so 500 grams for a fiver or around 6 dollars for a months worth.. Not expensive. Its very effective also. I have tried it with a blood glucose reader and it defo works.

Don't forget an old classic. Chromium Picolinate. This supplement is pennys and is also effective. Everywhere sells it
 
TheBigBrodie said:
Last question for you. How long does this stay in your system?
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Just dose before each carb meal? Just don't take any post workout. Your body is already primed for your muscle to take up glucose very easily and you want that big insulin spike anyway post workout. So i would do a couple caps at breakfast and maybe a cap or 2 at dinner?
 
bell1986 said:
In the UK it is sold in Lidl supermarket.. 49p for 50 grams. (Ground Ceylon) I usually buy around 10 jars so 500 grams for a fiver or around 6 dollars for a months worth.. Not expensive. Its very effective also. I have tried it with a blood glucose reader and it defo works.

Don't forget an old classic. Chromium Picolinate. This supplement is pennys and is also effective. Everywhere sells it
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I think on Amazon it’s about $15-20/lb, so around $.56-$.75/gram here stateside, so nearly the same as what you’re getting it for in the UK. I just haven’t seen it readily available in a supermarket (granted, haven’t looked super hard either)
 
bell1986 said:
In the UK it is sold in Lidl supermarket.. 49p for 50 grams. (Ground Ceylon) I usually buy around 10 jars so 500 grams for a fiver or around 6 dollars for a months worth.. Not expensive. Its very effective also. I have tried it with a blood glucose reader and it defo works.

Don't forget an old classic. Chromium Picolinate. This supplement is pennys and is also effective. Everywhere sells it
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What dosages do you run on CP and Cinnamon currently running Berberine was thinking of adding something else in
 
aaronuconn said:
Most GDA ingredients are going to drive carbs to adipose and muscle, so be weary of that. Very few ingredients (agmatine, TUDCA off the top of my head) will assist more with driving carbs to muscle tissue over adipose
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Can you explain a little more in depth what to be weary of?
 
chainsaw said:
Can you explain a little more in depth what to be weary of?
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I just mean some people think (probably due to how products are marketed) that by taking a GDA or a product that enhances nutrient partitioning, that all those calories they’re slamming are heading straight to muscle tissue.

In reality, sensitivity is probably behind increased for muscle AND adipose tissue.

I’m not at all saying this is bad, or these type of products should be avoided, just simply ensuring we’re all on the same page.
 
One of the best GDA out there.

[video=youtube;M5qGGQiVkxQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5qGGQiVkxQ[/video]
 
We developed glycophase to be an effective GDA for all situations and focused on driving nutrients to muscle tissue. Na-R-ALA and Saffron are excellent for both of these purposes
 
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