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GABA verses all the new generation sleep+GH inducers

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Whacked

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I'm ignorant on this subject and would like to learn more.

GABA and its analogues were the staple for pre-bed GH release a few years back. Then, all the new generation PM GH-releasers came out (PowerFULL, 1-GH-1, GHenerate, etc).

These contain things like: Sapogenin/alkaloids/1C-Decarboxylase/Murcuna Puriens, L-Dopa, etc

Are these in any way related to GABA in the way with which they work? Is the MOA the same?

I have a TON of sleep issues and I need all the help I can get. I ran and LOVED PowerFULL for years but unfortuntately, it does nothing for me now and need to get off entirely and was thinking about GABA, etc
 
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Depends on the day but many times BOTH :(
 
ekdevil said:
imo vaping indica is best for sleep
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check.
:sly:

actually, i use gaba daily.
maybe 3 to 5 grams a night in some water, and again a couple if i wake up and feel too wired.
happens often enough.

started taking some p-5-p with it.
dreams are off the hook.

dunno about the other supps, as haven't felt a need to spend the extra scratch.
gaba, melatonin, some coenzyme b vites (and/or straight p-5-p)

a 1/2 wph shake with some bcaas

and i am good to, well, go NOWHERE.

cheap.

oh, yeah, buy the gaba powder.
100grams is less than 10bx...
 
Interesting. Thanks
 
OK - figured I'd share my feedback for anyone who cares....

Took 2 grams last night. (directions on the bottle said 1-3g so I split the difference).

Well, 20 minutes in, I had this mad rush of tingling and warmth that started in my neck and went up and down from there. This lasted about 15 minutes. It freaked me out a bit LOL. Sort of reminded me of that tigling sensation you get with high dosed Beta-Alanine.

Then as it dissipated, I felt absolutely ZERO calming effects let alone sleepiness. :rolleyes:

My effectiveness score? 0 out of 10.....aka......WORTHLESS. If anything, it made me a bit wired as it took me much longer to get to sleep and resorted to throwing down Nyquil just to get to sleep.

WASTE
 
man.
sorry.
wow.
seriously, stuff works like a charm for me.
i guess i have gotten that tingly feeling before...
maybe i adapted to it.
now, i just feel a bit 'heavy...'
sometimes, chest heavy, like breathing is a chore if i take too much.
but, the wild thoughts slow down - for me at least.
and, i can sleep well.
deeply.
for a few hours...
man, do you have melatonin?
try these in combination.
i have 3mg melatonin and have had the best results from dissolving tablets that you chew up and swish around in the mouth...
seem to work a bit faster than swallow-only type tabs.
also, i have some magnesium oxide i will use sometimes.
maybe a gram at a time.
magnesium will help with relaxation.
and, like i said, i also dose coenzyme b vites,
and lately some p-5-p before sleep.
anyways, don't give up on it yet...
at the very least, if you don;t think that it will help you sleep, you can add it to your pre workout - it'll raise gh that way too.
 
maybe not...
but, benadryl doesn't
offset prolactin related sides
make stronger bones
increase alkalinity
or increase gh...
 
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