Funny M-drol stack idea ...

HolyPower

HolyPower

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i'm asking it, because last night i was thinking about my m-drol cycle...

The guy from who i order my serm (Nolvadex), also bring me Dbol. I'va planed to keep it until my next well plan cycle (Probably test ... but from now nothing planed yet).

So that was just a kind of funny idea i thought.

Taking Dbol at low dose during the Cycle of M-drol.

I know that it's not a good idea to mix methylated compound but...if this can happen it will be really crazy !!

I was thinking about something like pulsing the DBol as low as 10 mg/3-4 time a week.

Training drive us crazy ... !!
 
HolyPower said:
i'm asking it, because last night i was thinking about my m-drol cycle...

The guy from who i order my serm (Nolvadex), also bring me Dbol. I'va planed to keep it until my next well plan cycle (Probably test ... but from now nothing planed yet).

So that was just a kind of funny idea i thought.

Taking Dbol at low dose during the Cycle of M-drol.

I know that it's not a good idea to mix methylated compound but...if this can happen it will be really crazy !!

I was thinking about something like pulsing the DBol as low as 10 mg/3-4 time a week.

Training drive us crazy ... !!
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not a good idea bro. speaking of a "kind of funny idea," its kind of funny you would contemplate running this stack and propose such a dosing regimen on the boards. makes me wonder how prepared you are for this upcoming cycle you speak of. regardless, it is always a good idea to research and post your planned stack to be critiqued (in the steroid section next time) and good luck :thumbsup:
 
d-bol and m-drol - not a good idea bro

but if you do, run a log because it may help someone in the future from making the same mistake...

be good to you body bro
 
matthew76 said:
d-bol and m-drol - not a good idea bro

but if you do, run a log because it may help someone in the future from making the same mistake...

be good to you body bro
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I don't see how it would be the worst possible thing that could done here..
I have done it, and had decent results.
I do not know the dosing scheme, but really, a typical SD cycle is about 4 weeks. Guessing he's already around the 2 weeks mark, and only has around 2 weeks to go, why not?

Would it be worth it is the question.
D-bol isn't as bad on the liver as many of newer orals.
2 weeks, in a pulse type fassion (3-4 days) should be fine.

What's your current dosage of SD?
 
Did you have any bloodwork done? (before and after?)

xtraflossy said:
I don't see how it would be the worst possible thing that could done here..
I have done it, and had decent results.
I do not know the dosing scheme, but really, a typical superdrol cycle is about 4 weeks. Guessing he's already around the 2 weeks mark, and only has around 2 weeks to go, why not?

Would it be worth it is the question.
D-bol isn't as bad on the liver as many of newer orals.
2 weeks, in a pulse type fassion (3-4 days) should be fine.

What's your current dosage of SD?
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matthew76 said:
Did you have any bloodwork done? (before and after?)
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nope

If your looking for numbers on dbol they can be found.
Although I beleive the numbers (that I referenced in deciding to go on) were in the 50mg range. I used about half that, for 1/6th the time.

2 methyls is not really advised as a general rule. Soem are more harsh then others. Even more harsh methyls can be combined for very short times.
We see 2 methyls used with one week overlay all the time here (particularily with SD and PP).
ASSUMING he' sdoign a 4 weeker, I do not think he should encounter any problems, with 2 of those weeks stacking.
Especially with doses of SD 30mg and under, and his lower doseing of dbol.
 
Nothing done yet ... and probably never !

But, if the dbol is well pulsed...that will not **** hormone regulation worst than the cycle of m-drol...

Even if you run a regular 3-4 week of superdrol, your regular test will be very down, so adding a dbol well pulsed can just add a litle more androgenic side ! (we talk about approx 10 mg a dbol 3-4 days a week)

Sure, if you pulse your Superdrol cycle...i'm not enjoying the idea of pulsing dbol too...
 
HolyPower said:
Nothing done yet ... and probably never !

But, if the dbol is well pulsed...that will not **** hormone regulation worst than the cycle of m-drol...

Even if you run a regular 3-4 week of superdrol, your regular test will be very down, so adding a dbol well pulsed can just add a litle more androgenic side ! (we talk about approx 10 mg a dbol 3-4 days a week)

Sure, if you pulse your Superdrol cycle...i'm not enjoying the idea of pulsing dbol too...
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You should be fine running a superdrol cycle for 4 weeks and throw in some dbol in there.
It's not an unheard of idea.

the arguement can even be made that the intial LH stimulating qualities of dbol wikll HELP delay supression to some degree (acting as an AI)
Whatever- it's an idea that has been thought of before, ran before...
If you keep your dosing reasonable, the normal person shouldn't have any complications from a 4 weeker.
 
HolyPower said:
Nothing done yet ... and probably never !

But, if the dbol is well pulsed...that will not **** hormone regulation worst than the cycle of m-drol...

Even if you run a regular 3-4 week of superdrol, your regular test will be very down, so adding a dbol well pulsed can just add a litle more androgenic side ! (we talk about approx 10 mg a dbol 3-4 days a week)

Sure, if you pulse your Superdrol cycle...i'm not enjoying the idea of pulsing dbol too...
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not really bro. you talking about pulsing an oral with a typical half life of 3-4 hours, 6 hours MAX, at a lower dosage only 3-4 days a week. do you honestly think the gains will outweigh the side effects by running this? you are simply hurting your body and wallet more than you need to be. cut your losses while your ahead and leave out the dbol.

as far as claiming delaying suppression... come on bro there are much better options out there than this. that is like buying totally wrecked car for your daily driver and saying well at least it has good tires. your looking WAY to far when the answer is right in your face.:hammer:
 
ralph4u2c said:
not really bro. you talking about pulsing an oral with a typical half life of 3-4 hours, 6 hours MAX, at a lower dosage only 3-4 days a week. do you honestly think the gains will outweigh the side effects by running this? you are simply hurting your body and wallet more than you need to be. cut your losses while your ahead and leave out the dbol.

as far as claiming delaying suppression... come on bro there are much better options out there than this. that is like buying totally wrecked car for your daily driver and saying well at least it has good tires. your looking WAY to far when the answer is right in your face.:hammer:
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Maybe there are better options, but he mentioned one that was available. I didn't just make it up.

I do not know his steroid history. Maybe for a vet it isn't worth it, I'll give you that.

I wasn't talking about pulsing so much, I was talking about runnign 4 weeks of SD, with the last 2 adding in dbol.
It CAN be pulsed on top of the SD, either all the way through, or the last 2 weeks, or whatever.
If your not a fan of pulsing, you can look at the many logs on here to see it can be effective.

But either way, The point I am tring to make is that the idea of stackign SD and dbol isn't as crazy as the op might think (and I have done it)
 
HolyPower said:
xtraflossy, what was the result?

Did you log it ?

I think i will PM you for more info :goodpost:
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I did ~2 weeks. 20mg SD, (and I used dbol prohormone), 60-90 mg (equivalant to about 10-15 mg dbol) I got 3 pounds off it. My diet could have been better. I was testing short cycles.

When I pulsed dbol, I took 60mg M14ADD , and many other things to see what worked.
I got the greatest rebound effect when I used dbol. I used it as my "base".
(for the pulse, I did too much expirementing t oreally provide a usefull log- I have about 4-5 other substances I would add. Did a new one each week to see what the supression was like, the results, sides.... )
 
I'm not sure if I follow -Flossy never said they were anything to joke with - It just depends on users dosage protocal, which he made a valid point

I think we all know that D-BOL is no joke
 
xtraflossy said:
Maybe there are better options, but he mentioned one that was available.
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This board is about knowledge and knowledge gained to make the best possible decision, at that time, for the situation at hand. Yes that is an option, you and i both know that is far from the best, so why test the waters? Try to lead members away stacks like this and into a wiser protocol. I can give you some sick oral stacks that will give you explosive gains, but is it in mine or your best interest and a good decision, no?

Try searching for people who have ran a 4week of 2 methylated orals together whether is be superdrol,PP, Halo, D-bol, etc compared to those who did their research, prepared, and ran just one of the two. The gains will not be that much different, maybe a few pounds MAX. IMO, as well as many others, it just isn't worth the risk. :fool2:
 
i'm 100% agree that it's not a good idea to run two methylated coumpund at the same time,

If you say "Run a full superdrol cycle at 10/20/20-30 and run Dbol at the same time at 30 mg/ Days ... here i'm going to say that your completely crazy ...

I was just trying to think about a way (including pulsing and other method) to run a cycle like that, with the knowledge of today !

We dont talk about running full Dbol at 30mg/d...we talk about PULSING it and at a very LOW DOSE like 10mg ( like 1 hr before workout)
 
HolyPower said:
we talk about PULSING it and at a very LOW DOSE like 10mg ( like 1 hr before workout)
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why pulse something with a half life of only 3-4 hours pre workout? although 10mg may increase test levels a bit temporarily, it will also put more stress on your body, most concerning is on the liver (let alone the other oral you decide to run @ full force). will also increase the chances of gyno more even @ 10mg, specially when taken with an SD clone so i hope you arent prone to gyno at all. if you are looking for more power in the gym, try an NO2 product + RPM, it works wonders. i just dont see much, if any, good benefits from pulsing it. it may have a slight impact on your gains somewhere, but the impact on your body will be far more.:numbered:
 
Gixxer82 said:
Because these substances arn't a joke
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That WAS the obvious..

And ther eare other things to consider about methyls (not that it lends itself to any side of the safty debate in any real tangable way..)

but, runnign two methyls:
H-50.. 50mg.
PP- 10mg
SD 10mg
D-bol, 5, 10mg
Hell, those new products combining all 3, at lower doses..

Each compound places different amounts of stress on the liver.
Your liver is pretty resiliant, yet you don't want to take unnecessesary risks.

Is 50mg of methyl HD any better or worse then 20-30mg Phera?
Just becasue the amount of methyl is higher, doesn't mean it places the same amount of stress on the liver.
Also, is running 90mg M14ADD any worse thne runnign 15mg actual dbol? (I happen to think so, but I do not have any proof,.. its just the amount difference is so great.)
So, How can you say that it is a bad idea to run the two, at minimal dosing? IT's just speculation based on a general "rule" of not taking 2 methyls (which is in place for good reason,.. as a general rule)

Plus, everyone is narrowed in only on damages to the liver. There ARE other risk factors.

This decission, like any other, is a personal one, that should be made knowing about the risk factors and effects and the cost to bennifit ratio.
I will repeat that I still don't think this is such a "crazy" idea. ... But I also lowered my SD dose to accomodate the d-bol.


MAX LMG would be a great option that would yeild better results then adding dbol, but LMG comes with it's own set of issues,.. and (IMO) a MUCH greater chance of gyno, and (for me) a compolete loss of libido.
 
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