Unanswered From test prop to test E

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I’ve read conflicting reports of the change over and differing opinions. I’ve Ben on test prop for 4 weeks and am switching over to test e, my question is will it still be about 4 weeks til the test e kicks in? Or is the most important thing the elevated test levels, so with my levels already up would I feel the test e in maybe a week?

I have 300mg test prop left. I didn’t plan this out the best, but I was on test prop and tren and dropped the tren cuz I was feeling awful. Feel sooooo much better after being on just the prop for about a week.

Is the 4 weeks for test levels, or does is have to do with how the ester breaks down?
 

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Just do the switch in whatever way is practical. Theres an overthinking, at the end of the day meh and prolly unnecessary way of looking at this, and theres a just do it way. Personally, Id add my new testE pin dose to my last prop dose. Done. The E will be effective within 48hrs. As long as your weekly E dose matches your weekly prop dose mg for mg, youll be good. Dont worry about that 4week kick in bollocks.
 
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The bro logic behind the "4 week kick in" is really that is typically how long it takes for levels to peak and stabilise. The test is technically working the whole time. But, if you are already inj test, and not significantly increasing your weekly amount, the 4week period is irrelevant.
 
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The bro logic behind the "4 week kick in" is really that is typically how long it takes for levels to peak and stabilise. The test is technically working the whole time. But, if you are already inj test, and not significantly increasing your weekly amount, the 4week period is irrelevant.
Awesome just what I wanted to hear.. I’m feeling good on just test so wanna keep it going with no lag. I’ve been hitting 2 a days at the gym and still feeling good enough to do 30mins of cardio
 
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You’re still going to crash a bit because it does take time to build ip. These guys are wrong and if you did blood tests it would prove it. The prop will be out of your system in less than a week. Strategically overlapping them would be best for gains and the “on” feeling. Otherwise it’s going to take you that 3-4 weeks to get that back.
 

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He already has "established levels" with the prop. It is not going to take 4 weeks for the E to kick in. If you start pinning the E at the time you are dropping the prop, youll be fine. All that really matters is that your E weekly dose matches your prop, and you adopt a good inj schedule (typically 2x per week).

Strategically overlapping "best for gains"? Cmon bro, no navel-gazing calculating of ester metabolising is going to end up with any noticeable increase or decrease in gains, thats ridiculous.
 
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Half life of test prop is about 4 days, so about a week or so and his test levels are going to plummet. It’s going to be roughly 3-4 to have his test levels as high as they were on the prop. It’s not broscience. To keep his test levels the same when he is transitioning he needs to taper off the test prop. I won’t argue with you because there is no argument. He can get away with it yes. But there will be a noticeable drop off in workouts and the “on cycle” feeling. Although temporary.
 

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His test levels will not "plummet", and there will be no atypical decrease in workouts. Lol, you are waaaay overexagerating.

Tell me, do you experience a drop in workout performance the day before your next pin on-cycle? Troughs and peaks are normal. The transition from prop to E will involve "normal" troughs and peaks; the way youre talking there will be a hyooge trough. Im calling bollocks.

Im well aware of the pharmacokinetics. At the end of the day, Im just saying do what is practical and there is no need to overthink things. There will be little difference just starting up the E, or running the prop for a week into it. Just choose one, and get back to more important things like watching pornhub.
 
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The half life of prop is 1 day. The active life is about 4 days. There's no way test e takes 4 weeks to peak or reach steady levels, that's just ridiculous.
 

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I’ve read conflicting reports of the change over and differing opinions. I’ve Ben on test prop for 4 weeks and am switching over to test e, my question is will it still be about 4 weeks til the test e kicks in? Or is the most important thing the elevated test levels, so with my levels already up would I feel the test e in maybe a week?
https://steroidcalc.com/
This is a pretty good way to visualize. It can't be exact since there are too many smaller variables, but at least let's you plan how things could spike and drop off.
 
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https://steroidcalc.com/
This is a pretty good way to visualize. It can't be exact since there are too many smaller variables, but at least let's you plan how things could spike and drop off.
Sooo if I’m doing this right.. which I played around with it ALOOOT. To get it to hit in a week I’d have to pin about a gram of test that first week, and I’d have to split it up 150mg ED and it’ll peak by day 7.5 and then if I drop to 300mg e3d I’ll be pretty even for the rest of the cycle.. it’s the closest I could get it without having a Wild peak.. but that’s a crazy scheme is it not? Look at it and lemme know..
 

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Sooo if I’m doing this right.. which I played around with it ALOOOT. To get it to hit in a week I’d have to pin about a gram of test that first week, and I’d have to split it up 150mg ED and it’ll peak by day 7.5 and then if I drop to 300mg e3d I’ll be pretty even for the rest of the cycle.. it’s the closest I could get it without having a Wild peak.. but that’s a crazy scheme is it not? Look at it and lemme know..
So I don't know exactly where you started, but just assuming 200 Test P EOD, because that's similar enough to 300 Test E E3D.
Finish off your 300 prop in two spaced out 150mg pins overlapping with the start your enth. It's still similar to that 1gram for the week, but across 4 pins instead.
But you don't really have to get it superoptimized anyway, just overlapping helps going from shorter to longer ester.
 

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Sooo if I’m doing this right.. which I played around with it ALOOOT. To get it to hit in a week I’d have to pin about a gram of test that first week, and I’d have to split it up 150mg ED and it’ll peak by day 7.5 and then if I drop to 300mg e3d I’ll be pretty even for the rest of the cycle.. it’s the closest I could get it without having a Wild peak.. but that’s a crazy scheme is it not? Look at it and lemme know..
There's really no need to overthink it bro. Just start the E and finish off the P in 3 100mg eod pins
 
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So I don't know exactly where you started, but just assuming 200 Test P EOD, because that's similar enough to 300 Test E E3D.
Finish off your 300 prop in two spaced out 150mg pins overlapping with the start your enth. It's still similar to that 1gram for the week, but across 4 pins instead.
But you don't really have to get it superoptimized anyway, just overlapping helps going from shorter to longer ester.
I completely didn’t plug in the prop thinking it wouldn’t matter and I was just looking at the enth, now when I plug in what I was running it shows no lag just a little spike from the overlap. So I actually am g2g then.. wow I really over complicated this I’m my head lol
 

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