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1. Lift heavy and hard

2. Listen to your body. If you are run down, you need rest. If your macros aren't doing it for you, change them. Everyone is different

3. Enjoy yourself
 
cumminslifter said:
my jags need to pick him up. anything is better than gabert
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He's got great heart and determination, but like Solution said, mechanics are pitiful. Meyer never helped him develop them in college, though it was not necessary given their offense, but if he had been paired with a good QB coach and more pro-style offense, who knows.

Still love that win against the Jets when he was with Denver.
 
ricroc said:
He's got great heart and determination, but like Solution said, mechanics are pitiful. Meyer never helped him develop them in college, though it was not necessary given their offense, but if he had been paired with a good QB coach and more pro-style offense, who knows.

Still love that win against the Jets when he was with Denver.
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how about that Playoff win vs Pitt (Hard for me to swallow as a pitt fan) but shows he can win. and has it in him to do so.
 
Yup!
 
My 3 tips are:

1.) Balance out moderate amounts of running with strength training.
2.) The more cardio I do, the more I eat -- I generally follow the rule of an extra 100 calories for every additional mile.
3.) Hit the gym first before doing cardio (so that I have more strength for weights).
 
ricroc said:
He's got great heart and determination, but like Solution said, mechanics are pitiful. Meyer never helped him develop them in college, though it was not necessary given their offense, but if he had been paired with a good QB coach and more pro-style offense, who knows.

Still love that win against the Jets when he was with Denver.
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true but i would still have him over gabert. gabert is so unnatural looking playing QB
 
Oh yeah. Gabbert's all deer-in-the-headlights.
 
ricroc said:
Oh yeah. Gabbert's all deer-in-the-headlights.
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The only one worse may be ponder in minn. poor guy just has to hand off every down and he can barely manage that without turning the ball over.
 
The Solution said:
His heart is on the NFL, but honestly he does not have the QB Mechanics, he can win games and has shown it, but is he really a franchise QB for the future? hes no andrew luck
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He is better than tony Romo!
He only won one playoff game since he's been in league and dpmehow earned a 6 yr $108mil reup! Really?
 
I can't help but feel somewhat slightly responsible for this thread derail...whoopsi, sorry... :ntome:
 
1. Focus on your goals. Once you are in the gym, nothing else matters

2. For me, lower carbs really seem to lean me up.

3. Refeeds/cheat meals. Dieting would have been a terrible process if I didn't have a little freedom for a meal here and there
 
Distilled Water said:
Wow....this thread has taken a wild turn since last pop in lol.

Who's trying to get strong and shredded?!?!?
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This guy ha. Todays tips:
1. Don't change things just to change. If it works, stick with it.
2. Change when you stagnate. If you're not seeing the results, something's not working.
3. Customize! At the end of the day, all of your training, dieting, etc is for and about you so make it truly yours. No two people are alike.
 
Distilled Water said:
Wow....this thread has taken a wild turn since last pop in lol.

Who's trying to get strong and shredded?!?!?
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Count me in. Waiting until tomorrow when the winners are announced.
 
cumminslifter said:
me too, and with that

1. HIIT cardio
2. carb and sodium manipulation
3. for strength lifting 80%+ of 1RM
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Man I find that sodium manipulation can cause me some serious gi problems... But seems to really lean me out ha
 
cumminslifter said:
me too, and with that

1. HIIT cardio
2. carb and sodium manipulation
3. for strength lifting 80%+ of 1RM
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Why would one cutting need to manipulate sodium and water?
You should always be drinking lots of water and intaking high amounts of sodium unless you are on peak week...

That really does not make any sense.... Sodium is very necessary for many bodily functions, cutting it or manipulating it could cause disaster, same with water... again if you were 3-4 days out that is a different story.


1. Protien at least 1-1.5g/lb, Fats at least 20%, Carbs fill in remainder
2. Cardio should be kept to as little as possible while still losing weight on the highest amount of calories (metabolism reasoning)
3. DO not drop fat to deadly low levels for long periods of time , bad side effects on hormone and testosterone levels.
 
The Solution said:
Why would one cutting need to manipulate sodium and water?
You should always be drinking lots of water and intaking high amounts of sodium unless you are on peak week...

That really does not make any sense.... Sodium is very necessary for many bodily functions, cutting it or manipulating it could cause disaster, same with water... again if you were 3-4 days out that is a different story.


1. Protien at least 1-1.5g/lb, Fats at least 20%, Carbs fill in remainder
2. Cardio should be kept to as little as possible while still losing weight on the highest amount of calories (metabolism reasoning)
3. DO not drop fat to deadly low levels for long periods of time , bad side effects on hormone and testosterone levels.
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Yeah, I heard on one of Layne's videos about the dangers of going too low on sodium and how it can actually be counterproductive.

Good to know on #3, though I don't think I'll have that problem.
 
The Solution said:
Why would one cutting need to manipulate sodium and water?
You should always be drinking lots of water and intaking high amounts of sodium unless you are on peak week...

That really does not make any sense.... Sodium is very necessary for many bodily functions, cutting it or manipulating it could cause disaster, same with water... again if you were 3-4 days out that is a different story.


1. Protien at least 1-1.5g/lb, Fats at least 20%, Carbs fill in remainder
2. Cardio should be kept to as little as possible while still losing weight on the highest amount of calories (metabolism reasoning)
3. DO not drop fat to deadly low levels for long periods of time , bad side effects on hormone and testosterone levels.
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ok bob
 
cumminslifter said:
ok bob
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Besides trolling the nutrition section on bb.com will lead you to believing that.. lol Those people are morons and a waste of your time.

"Your sodium balance affects both fluid and blood volume. Why does that matter? Well, aren't we after a harder and tighter look that depends on both fluid and blood volume? Like the water ratio we mentioned above, the body holds on to its normal range of sodium very strictly.

Your kidneys will either increase or decrease their sodium output depending on your intake. A Harvard study done by Rogacz showed what happens when sodium is restricted over the course of six days.(2) For those who always scream that research studies don't apply to bodybuilders, six days is the typical amount of time that athletes manipulate their intake for a contest or event.

In the Rogacz study, sodium intake was eliminated, but the sodium in the subject's blood stayed the same. By the sixth day, the body had nearly stopped getting rid of sodium. What does this mean? All the sodium manipulations that you did the previous week did nothing! All it did was raise the hormone aldosterone, which causes increased water retention and re-absorption of sodium."

"In the body’s natural state we actually hold MORE water inside our cells than outside our cells (subcutaneous water). It is when you screw with things that you start getting problems. People seem to have the notion that cutting water and sodium will allow them to shed all their subcutaneous water. There are a few problems with this:

1) You won't just lose water from the subcutaneous area, you will also lose it out of the muscle tissue, and you will most likely lose MORE from the muscle than from the subcutaneous layer as the body will attempt to maintain the water balance between the inside & outside of the cell.

2) You will flatten yourself out big time. The only reason a carb load works is because the increased glycogen causes your cells to store more water. All you have really done is flatten yourself out, you haven't changed the ratio of intracellular/extracellular water at all.
I know what you are thinking "but Layne, at my last show a judge said I needed to be drier" or "everyone tells me I just need to lose the water." Well I'm not here to make you feel better about yourself; I'm here to help you do better at your next show. And the truth is that people are telling you that you are 'holding water' because they don't want to hurt your feelings. The fact of the matter is that you weren't 'holding water' you just weren't lean enough.

Look at some of the people that I and Dr. Joe Klemczewski have worked with like Ben Goins, Steve Sims, Joe Franco, Dave Goodin, Kent Julius, John Harris, etc. They are 'drier' than 99.99% of people who compete ever will be. No water manipulation, very little sodium manipulation. How can they look so dry when they haven't changed a thing from their normal diet? What is their secret. Well read very closely because I'm only going to tell you the secret once.
"
 
Anyone else? Winners will be chosen tomorrow!
 
The Solution said:
Besides trolling the nutrition section on bb.com will lead you to believing that.. lol Those people are morons and a waste of your time.

"Your sodium balance affects both fluid and blood volume. Why does that matter? Well, aren't we after a harder and tighter look that depends on both fluid and blood volume? Like the water ratio we mentioned above, the body holds on to its normal range of sodium very strictly.

Your kidneys will either increase or decrease their sodium output depending on your intake. A Harvard study done by Rogacz showed what happens when sodium is restricted over the course of six days.(2) For those who always scream that research studies don't apply to bodybuilders, six days is the typical amount of time that athletes manipulate their intake for a contest or event.

In the Rogacz study, sodium intake was eliminated, but the sodium in the subject's blood stayed the same. By the sixth day, the body had nearly stopped getting rid of sodium. What does this mean? All the sodium manipulations that you did the previous week did nothing! All it did was raise the hormone aldosterone, which causes increased water retention and re-absorption of sodium."

"In the body’s natural state we actually hold MORE water inside our cells than outside our cells (subcutaneous water). It is when you screw with things that you start getting problems. People seem to have the notion that cutting water and sodium will allow them to shed all their subcutaneous water. There are a few problems with this:

1) You won't just lose water from the subcutaneous area, you will also lose it out of the muscle tissue, and you will most likely lose MORE from the muscle than from the subcutaneous layer as the body will attempt to maintain the water balance between the inside & outside of the cell.

2) You will flatten yourself out big time. The only reason a carb load works is because the increased glycogen causes your cells to store more water. All you have really done is flatten yourself out, you haven't changed the ratio of intracellular/extracellular water at all.
I know what you are thinking "but Layne, at my last show a judge said I needed to be drier" or "everyone tells me I just need to lose the water." Well I'm not here to make you feel better about yourself; I'm here to help you do better at your next show. And the truth is that people are telling you that you are 'holding water' because they don't want to hurt your feelings. The fact of the matter is that you weren't 'holding water' you just weren't lean enough.

Look at some of the people that I and Dr. Joe Klemczewski have worked with like Ben Goins, Steve Sims, Joe Franco, Dave Goodin, Kent Julius, John Harris, etc. They are 'drier' than 99.99% of people who compete ever will be. No water manipulation, very little sodium manipulation. How can they look so dry when they haven't changed a thing from their normal diet? What is their secret. Well read very closely because I'm only going to tell you the secret once.
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ya i troll....? notsureifsrs
 
Dude you totally left me hanging... WHAT'S THE SECRET??
 
Strong and Shredded tips:

1} Volume
2} Deads/Squats, High rep sets
3} HIIT
 
The Solution said:
Few more tips:

1) Dont negate sodium or potassium ever in your diet, this can lead to an imbalance, cramps , and vicious side effects
2) Dont make Very fast caloric cuts or increases in cardio, this would crash metabolism and set you up for future stalls and faster.
3) Use the mirror #1 and scale #2. The mirror shows more progress and results than a number on a scale ever will.
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Good point bro..
 
Yep the page did take a slight turn.. But it's all good.. I've seen a lot of great entries here.. Gonna be a tough one.. All in all, of you all can't fit your shirts, ill take em.. I'm not a Xxl anymore... More of a husky XL.. Smh.. Hahahah.. But on the real, I've read a lot of great advice towards fitness and nutrition.. Cassie, and bill good luck on this one.. Haha
 
Final day entry... crossing my fingers it'll be a lucky Friday the thirteenth!

1. If you have to pick between diet and exercise, pick diet!
2. Don't be afraid to keep reasonably heavy compound moves in your routine even deep into a cut.
3. Find things that take your mind off the tough times. Another hobby, a good friend, a movie, etc. Keep you mind fresh.
 
cumminslifter said:
ya i troll....? notsureifsrs
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Way to really answer the question and totally go around it when proven wrong on sodium/water :)

1) Add supplements as the very last step in a cutting diet
2) Even if you stall on the scale during the week dont make changes if the mirror looks leaner
3) Refer to higher volume foods as the cut prolongs for satiety sake.
 
Okay, no screwing around. You really want to know how to be STRONG and SHREDDED? Here it is:

1. Eat your spinach (just look at Popeye)
2. Bench press locomotives (Mr. Incredible)
3. Hold your sword high in the sky and yell, "BY THE POWER OF GREYSKULL!" or, "thundercats, THUNDERcats, THUNDERCATS, HOOOOOOOO!" (depending on the sword)
 
1) Use visualization. Spend time each night before falling asleep visualizing how you want your body to look. Also, when you wake up in the morning visualize yourself successfully going through your day. This includes you hitting all your lifts in the gym.
2) Consider using bands and chains. These can be extremely effective tools for strength building when utilized properly.
3) Avoid micronutrient deficient food. Instead opt for natural foods high in micronutrients. Of course you ought to be paying attention to your relative macronutrient values, but also be aware of your micronutrient intake!
 
The Solution said:
Way to really answer the question and totally go around it when proven wrong on sodium/water :)

1) Add supplements as the very last step in a cutting diet
2) Even if you stall on the scale during the week dont make changes if the mirror looks leaner
3) Refer to higher volume foods as the cut prolongs for satiety sake.
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i didnt even read what you posted because you took it way to seriously and had no pont of reference to what i even meant

1. have a refeed day is weight loss has plateaued
2. HIIT cardio
3. for the sake of sanity eat foods you enjoy
 
One last set:

1.) track your progress ( pics better than scales ) often we don't appreciate how much progress we've made and get discouraged

2.) Be flexible in your schedule when needed. In both diet and training what you can do and how you should eat change change constantly.

3.) Set clear and attainable goals. I'd rather set a reasonable goal then crush it. Then fall short on a ridiculous dream.
 
One more entry for Friday:

1. Focus solely on your progress and your goals. Do not let the image and/or success of others discourage you or through you off track. Compare yourself to yourself! There will only ever be one you!!

2. Do not put yourself under more duress, stress than needed. If you've a trying and stressful day, sometimes it is best to skip the workout or to simply do some minimal work. In short, sometimes it rains s--t, and the day doesn't go as planned. Don't fight it, just plan for tomorrow.

3. Have fun! (Might be cliched but I feel it is true.) This is your health and your journey. Enjoy all the ups and downs and when you reach your goal, it'll be so much sweeter.
 
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