Now who wins???!!!
KingPin
SERVING SIZE: 2 Capsules
INGREDIENTS (Amount Per Serving)
2α,17α-dimethyl-etiocholan-3-one-17β-ol 10 MG (Superdrol)
2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol 10 MG (Epistane)
19-norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione 50 MG (Tren)
1,4,6-Androstatriene-3,17-dione 10 MG (ATD/3 17 Keto)
N-acetyl-L-cysteine 150 MG (NAC)
Vitamin C (as ascorbic acid) 50 MG
Red Yeast Rice 150 MG
Coenzyme Q10 10 MG
Hawthorn Berries 300 MG
Milk Thistle (80% Silymarin) 150 MG N/A
Cissus Quadrangularis 200 MG
DIRECTIONS: Take 1-3 servings per day with a meal. Do no exceed 3 servings per day. Do not exceed 6 capsules per day. Do not exceed 30 days of continual use.
ANABOLIC MATRIX:
Superdrol is an extremely powerful compound. Excellent dry gains. Great for bulking or cutting when trying to retain strength while getting leaner. Explosive strength gains.
Epistane has some anti-aromatase properties and users can expect to see significant gains in both strength and mass.
Tren is a precursor to dienolone. It's used for recomp and increases in strength.
ESTROGEN SUPPORT:
ATD/3 17 Keto is a potent irreversible aromatase inhibitor that inhibits estrogen biosynthesis by permanently binding and inactivating aromatase in adipose and peripheral tissue. It is used to control estrogen synthesis.
IMMUNE SUPPORT:
NAC provides powerful immune support and also packs a powerful anti-toxin potential. Its ability to neutralize cell and DNA damaging free radicals can help slow down what many scientists point to as a key factor in the aging process.
Vitamin C is an anti-oxidant, since it protects the body against oxidative stress, and is a cofactor in several vital enzymatic reactions
CHOLESTEROL SUPPORT:
Red Yeast Rice is a statin, controlling cholesterol levels. There is strong scientific evidence for its effect in lowering blood levels of total cholesterol, low-density lipoprotein/LDL ("bad cholesterol"), and triglyceride levels.
CoQ10 is a coenzyme which exists naturally in our bodies. It is a precursor to a number of functions that have to do with energy production on the cellular level. It is important to take CoQ10 becuase Red Yeast Rice depletes the CoQ10 levels in the body. Without CoQ10, the Red Yeast Rice will not produce its best results because the body is lethargic and trying to conserve energy due to the depletion of CoQ10.
BLOOD PRESSURE SUPPORT:
Hawthorn is used to help regulate blood pressure and break down cholesterol and fat that may contribute to heart disease. It also helps the heart muscle pump more efficiently.
LIVER SUPPORT:
Milk Thistle has been reported to have protective effects on the liver and to greatly improve its function. It helps the liver recover from harsh toxins, such as PH/DS.
JOINT SUPPORT:
Cissus Quadrangularis helps maintain joint health. Due to the fact that one may experience lower estrogen levels due to the ATD and the fact that one will experience tremendous weight gain in a short period of time, the joints can take on a serious strain. Maintaining them is essential, especially for preventing injury.
** One of the key parts about KingPin is that the user is able to gage the amount they can use by being able to split up the serving size (2 capsules) in half, or spliting the doses (1-3 per day) any which way they want. The reason is because every individual is different and will respond differently to the product. One person may want to use 1 serving per day, split into 2 different times. Another individual may want to use 2.5 servings per day, split up into 3-5 different times. These are just a couple examples of what one would be able to do. Everyone's body is different and everyone knows their bodies capabilities better than anyone else. KingPin puts it up to the user to create their cycle based on their own needs or abilities.
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Hman85- Sorry I should have clarified that better. When I said 3 servings, I was directing that to people well over 200 lbs with a good amount of experience with ph/ds. The dosage for the average individual would be 1-2 servings per day which could be 10-20mg of Superdrol, 10-20mg of Epi, and 50-100mg of Tren. Also, keep in mind that each capsule only contains 5 mg of Superdrol, 5 mg of Epi, and 25 mg of Tren so you would be able to take half doses as well. Like I said, it's up to the individual's experience and makeup. I hope that clarifies that a little better, if not I will be happy to answer any more questions. Personally, I would only take 2 servings tops of this, being at only about 165 lbs with some previous experience with tren and superdrol.That is a high mixture at 3 a day. 150 nor and 30 super and 30 epi?That is high as hell. imo maybe drop it to 5 super and 30 nor 10 epi? Just my 2 cents.
CustomCapsule:
You guys should look into the ingredient DHB (6, 7, dihydroxybergamottin ? I believe) for increasing absorption of the ph/ds. I know there's naringin available, which helps absorption. The only thing with that is that it can't be used in conjunction with red yeast rice. Because of the fact that ph/ds can cause cholesterol issues, the most popular combo to combat this is red yeast rice/coq10. I'm sure many people wouldn't realize this and if naringin was used to aid absorption, they may go towards the RYR/coq10 route not knowing that it actually reverses the effects. From what I've read, dhb is a very good ingredient for absorption. This is just a thought though. I would definetly like to see it on the site and included in some of the prohormones. It would be without a doubt a great addition.
you know what? i've read this before on this ad another board. and i call bull$hit on this statement. i'm not saying your full of BS, i'm sure your just repeating what you've read from others. but i want proof. give me a medical study, hell give me a non-medical study. i do not mean to jack this thread, so if someone wants to PM that's fine. please if there's proof out there i want it. i apoligize for being a bit worked up, but i hear this all the time and have never seen evidence of it being true. not saying it isn't, just haven't seen the proof.....please provide.
Hey sorry Russian, I was talking about the RYR with the naringin. I was only bringing up the point that naringin can't work with red yeast rice, and those who want to use the RYR/Q10 combo wouldnt be able to or it would have adverse affects. I was mentioning this because I noticed there were a few prohormones that included the Naringin to help with absorption. I was aiming for that if there's naringin in the prohormone and in the case of some cholesterol issues, the user wouldn't be able to use the RYR/Q10 combo (and they may not even know they're not supposed to use it). Since RYR/Q10 combo is a very popular cholesterol supplement on its own as well as in different other products for cycle assistance, this may not be a good idea for the naringin in the PH (only based on this, unless there was a warning label or something of course). Even for the mild PH, cholesterol can be an issue. One of my buddies got cholesterol issues from using BOLD a little while back.Q10 is a good inclusion with red yeast rice because red yeast stripps your own heart of q10, q10 on its own has minimal effects on cholesterol, DHB is a good choice to aid in prohormone absorbtion, but you dont need naringin in red yeast rice and q10 supplements so i dont see an issue here.
But DHB would still be a great addition to the ingredient listings.
Hey sorry Russian, I was talking about the RYR with the naringin. I was only bringing up the point that naringin can't work with red yeast rice, and those who want to use the RYR/Q10 combo wouldnt be able to or it would have adverse affects. I was mentioning this because I noticed there were a few prohormones that included the Naringin to help with absorption. I was aiming for that if there's naringin in the prohormone and in the case of some cholesterol issues, the user wouldn't be able to use the RYR/Q10 combo (and they may not even know they're not supposed to use it). Since RYR/Q10 combo is a very popular cholesterol supplement on its own as well as in different other products for cycle assistance, this may not be a good idea for the naringin in the PH (only based on this, unless there was a warning label or something of course). Even for the mild PH, cholesterol can be an issue. One of my buddies got cholesterol issues from using BOLD a little while back.
Yeah, that would be very interesting to see. It would definetly be a win-win for everyone.Aha, sorry bro thats a good point, maybe a new thread should be done on what supplements interfere with one another, it would be a good thread for custom capsule, and for customers wouldnt it?
Good point, and well said my friend.
There are a few here with methyls like superdol, or even 2 methyls, and people are advising a possible 6 week run, you must be joking?
better things than milk thistle? like a stand alone product or a combination like NAC, MT, ALA, etc. i agree that blends are better than taking milk thistle alone.
Guys sorry I have been away for a few days.
Voting will start on May 7th and end Midnight Pacific time
Awesome, cant wait to see who wins, what a contest.
I agree. Go custom caps! You guys have a cool little idea going here. Very innovative.
Russian - when are you going to post up your new capsule? You stated that your first one was "weak".
With your knowledge I would love to see what capsule #2 would look like...
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17a-Methyl-Androsta-1,4-diene-3,17-diol (M 1,4 ADD) 50 MG N/A
4-Chloro-17a-Methyl-Androsta-1,4-diene-3,17-diol (halodrol)25MG N/A
Hawthorn Berries 900MG N/A
N-acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC)600MG N/A
Policosanol 20MG N/A
Sweet and simple. M1,4add is a great bulker and a PH to dihydroboldenone(dianabol). Halodrol is a mild PH and Gaspari had great success with this and Pheraplex combined. I figure H-Drol and M1,4add would make an even better combo for a mass gaining cycle. Beginners should take 1 serving twice daily for 4-5 weeks. For me and other more advanced users, the recommended dose is 2 servings 3 times daily to make 75mg H-Drol and 150mg m1,4add. This should yield just under 30mg of dbol. I also added Hawthore nerry for blood pressure. Would've used 1100mg but according to custom capsule the most you can take in 1 day is 900mg. NAC is a powerful antioxidant to help out the liver. Policosanol is an extremely potent cholesterol supplement. It is actually derived from the same thing that "statin" drugs are derived from. It's a staple in every cycle I run. Short, sweet, and will definitely get the job doneChoose my product and you'll get swole guaranteed.
It looks like the studies on policasanol were flawed, the original extraction process in cuba looks like it was a possible scam to make money, as a recent study in denmark showed no change in good or bad cholesterol after a 6 month period at 40mg or more, however it could be to do with the fact its not very biovailable, and perhaps would work better with a delivery method, maybe vitamin b6 and naringin to help delivery, but as its a plant sugar, i cant see why it wouldnt be easily absorbed into the body. Statins are derived from extremely potent plant sterols of many variations, And they go through a completely different extraction process.
The first statin was mevastatin (ML-236B), a molecule produced by Penicillium citrinum, the next was (mevinolin, MK803), the first commercially marketed statin, from the mold Aspergillus terreus, only 3 are derived of the current market through a fermentation process, the rest are synthetic, so only 3 are related to policasanol in that regard.
Published studies have come to conflicting conclusions regarding the efficacy of policosanol in lowering LDL (i.e., "bad cholesterol") or raising HDL (i.e., "good cholesterol").[5][6][7] Despite a number of studies funded by the Cuban government, which produces and markets the drug,[8] no independent clinical trials have found any evidence of the efficacy of policosanol.
Policosanol is a mixture of a few fatty alcohols derived from the waxes of such plants as sugar cane, so not really similar, and policosonol isnt effective in any human studies.
So i wouldnt bother with a chlesterol aid during cycle, as red east wich does work is only eally suitable after, as cholesterol is used to produce free testosterone.
I think you forgot that I work in a pharmacy every single day for 9hrs/dayI've seen blood work, clinical trials in "pharmacy times"(magazine strictly for RPh's) and know plenty about what it is, when it was first created, etc. Blood work doesn't lie, I don't care who says otherwise. Also Red Yeats Rice is terrible on your liver, so i'd opt to never use that supplement, ever. This isn't the thread for discussing these things anyway, it's for the contest.
A POLL WILL BE SET UP SHORTLY GUYS AND A NEW THREAD.
Ok guys. I need everyones entry in by tonight if you are going to add anything so I can set up the poll.
Best regards,
JW
Hey I had some free time on my hands this afternoon so I decided to make a quick revision to KingPin, so please disregard the first 2 please. Thank you.Ok guys. I need everyones entry in by tonight if you are going to add anything so I can set up the poll.
Best regards,
JW
Are the entries just what we posted on this thread? Or do we post somewhere else as well?
Haha, just saw this after I posted my second formula. Can you use my updated version of KingPin please (pg. 5- Invalid Link Removed)Just what you Post here. I will then make another thread in this same section with a poll for everyones name and a link to their capsule creation, I will also link back to this thread so voters can check out the formulas.
Please if you have more than one formula let us know which one you want to use.
Its called lean machine and it will do just that. Strength increases while putting on quality muscle and losing fat. Sounds like a win win to me!
19-norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione 30 MG
Na R-Alpha Lipoic Acid 80 MG
Conjugated Linoleic Acid 1000MG
Hawthorn Berries 500 MG
Coenzyme Q10 20 MG
4-Chloro-17a-Methyl-Androsta-1,4-diene-3,17-diol 25 MG
L-Glutamine 500MG
Green Tea Extract 500MG
Some strong apps here, should be exciting.....cant wait to see the outcome...any more apps?