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For those who workout in the AM, fasted...

Ah, you may have misunderstood me, as that is exactly what I was suggesting.

By 'refractory period', I was referring to a physiological phenomenon exhibiting similar characteristics to an ejaculatory refractory period. After a certain point, despite continued AA infusion increasing serum AA levels, net protein synthesis haults. Such is why I usually suggest intra-to-post workout BCAA supplementation, as using BCAA too far prior to a workout may leave one in this so-called 'refractory period' when one needs it most!

So Mullet. Here is my schedule;

Lifting days
10:30 - 2 recreate, 2 scoops Xtend 1 scoop bulk BCAA, 1 pack Animal Nitro
11:00 - protein shake
Noon - WO
1-1:30 - 2 scoops Xtend 1 scoop bulk BCAA, 1 pack Animal Nitro
1:30-2:00 - Protein

Cardio days
11:30 - 2 recreate, 2 scoops Xtend 1 scoop bulk BCAA
Noon - Cardio
1:00 - Protein shake

Does it sound like I could miss that 'refractory period'?

I just started this schedule last week. Just looking for insight. Thanks
 
So Mullet. Here is my schedule;

Lifting days
10:30 - 2 recreate, 2 scoops Xtend 1 scoop bulk BCAA, 1 pack Animal Nitro
11:00 - protein shake
Noon - WO
1-1:30 - 2 scoops Xtend 1 scoop bulk BCAA, 1 pack Animal Nitro
1:30-2:00 - Protein

Cardio days
11:30 - 2 recreate, 2 scoops Xtend 1 scoop bulk BCAA
Noon - Cardio
1:00 - Protein shake

Does it sound like I could miss that 'refractory period'?

I just started this schedule last week. Just looking for insight. Thanks

No, not at all. Let me explain it as follows:

Your skeletal muscles are a container, and amino-acids are the fluid which pours into it. Like a container, only so much fluid can be poured into it prior to overfilling, and wasting the excess fluid; you can continue to 'pour' fluid into the container, but it will end up spilling and be useless.

Essentially, this same phenomenon occurs with amino-acid supplementation due to the aforementioned refractory period. This is due to the [several] rate-limiting factors of protein synthesis, which is what we are truly after in BCAA supplementation. Despite the fact that initiation factors such as 4E-BP1 and p70S6K display a concurrent secular increase with rising AA serum levels [leucine, in particular] net protein synthesis halts after a certain period - i.e.,) it refracts!
 
No, not at all. Let me explain it as follows:

Your skeletal muscles are a container, and amino-acids are the fluid which pours into it. Like a container, only so much fluid can be poured into it prior to overfilling, and wasting the excess fluid; you can continue to 'pour' fluid into the container, but it will end up spilling and be useless.

Essentially, this same phenomenon occurs with amino-acid supplementation due to the aforementioned refractory period. This is due to the [several] rate-limiting factors of protein synthesis, which is what we are truly after in BCAA supplementation. Despite the fact that initiation factors such as 4E-BP1 and p70S6K display a concurrent secular increase with rising AA serum levels [leucine, in particular] net protein synthesis halts after a certain period - i.e.,) it refracts!

Hehe thank you!

But are you telling my supplement timing will work? Sorry, I'm having a helluva day!

Edit: after finally having a chance to read and comprehend what you're saying. I believe your saying my timing is fine.
 
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