for increased focus and pumps......

They're the three best IMO.

Been using Diarg malate with CEE the last 3 wo's. Lovin it. Pumps are not quite as good as AAKG but they're good. Strength and endurance are both increasing on this. Had to stop myself during the wo as it felt like I could keep going and going.

CM is also really nice but didn't give much in the way of pumps. Endurance on this stuff is amazing. Gives a nice energy boost throughout the day.

If I had the cash I buy a kilo of each and mix with a kilo of CEE.

There's a nice article about NO supps in 1Fast's The Bull this month. It points out the dangers of increased NO on lipid peroxidation. Be sure to take some good anti oxidants when using these supps. I recommend adding rosemary extract into your current antiox stack as it has been shown effective in halting lipid peroxidation.
 
UNDERTAKER said:
no one else has any comments on these substances?
I take this twice a day:
Creatine Ethyl Ester HCI - 2g
Di-Arginine Malate - 2g
Arginine AKG - 2g
Citrulline Malate - 3g


Done so for a week and have not noticed anything at all.

It tastes like ****.
 
I don't see how any of those will increase FOCUS.

For increased focus and pumps I'd go with:

(preworkout)
ALCAR
Creatine mono
Betaine
Taurine
glycerine
glucuronolactone

If you wanted to spend some money I guess you could add some CM. But the ingredients I listed are usually very cheap.

Okay, to answer your question, I'd add ALCAR to the DiArgMalate. Still not worth the money in my opinion. Better to just go with plain creatine.
 
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