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flat bench is the worst exercise ever created

Beelzebub said:
there's the man i was hoping would say something. :)
ok, first off, it's been 24 hours and there's no bruising so it must be just a pull....again. so, nothing too serious but just another notch on the 'oh ****' belt. as a few of you have suggested and with good reason, i will immediately stop going heavier than 315 raw on flat. ex, i have a double rage-x 52 ready to roll but i was just waiting to hit 405 raw for a few before throwing it on. apparently, that was stupid and i'm taking your advice to heart. i had a bencher examine my form and he said it's golden. i must say that i've got that arch and elbows in down to a science, lol. damn near turn it into a decline :D i'm thinking that double rage-x ain't the best shirt for me right now so i'm gonna hold on to it for later and maybe get a single ply something for the time being until i get used to it and more comfortable with bigger numbers, maybe just a single ply rage (no x). although, i've heard good things about fury and F6 also. which do you recommend for arched benchers (single ply)?
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Since you tuck your elbows and have a good arch (supposedly :) ) I would suggest you get a F6. As for sizing, when I was hossed out, I wore a 56 and I could JUST BARELY get it on myself, but I needed someone to help adjust the seams and what not. Depending on how big your arms and chest are (the arms were the really tight thing for me) you should go probably 54, unless your arms are >20" then you should get a 56.

Heck, I will probably never use my 56 fury again, if you're interested I could cut you a good deal on it man. Otherwise go with Invalid Link Removed, they're fast and the service is good. Definately go single ply as a snug fitting dual ply F6 or fury can take >600lbs to touch.
 
20 1/4" (chest ain't 56 though, more like 53)

i'm interested :D

just looking for a little help off the bottom (the danger area)
 
Hey when do you guys recommend getting into a benching shirt? (like around what max?)

o and btw whats a monolift?
 
before i would have suggested a 405 raw max. but like they said, unless you compete raw, it's a waste of time and effort. now, i'd say 315 raw, then try a shirt. ex is definately more qualified to answer this though.

a monolift is what is used in competition for squats. no walkout is required. you get under the weight, stand up, the hooks move and you squat right where you stand.
 
o yea I have seen those just didn't know the name.... Also if you don't mind me hijacking the thread how about wraps for your knees?
 
Beelzebub said:
20 1/4" (chest ain't 56 though, more like 53)

i'm interested :D

just looking for a little help off the bottom (the danger area)
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Yeah, the tricky thing about the fury is that unlike most inzer shirts, if you are loose on the bench and your form is bad you will get **** out of it... But if you are tight on the bench and you keep your arch and bring your arms down with elbows in, it rocks. One thing I've noticed about the inzer shirts I've tried is that they start to pull tight at the top of the bench so the weight feels lighter in your hands, whereas the fury feels heavy in your hands and you need to have the strength to stabilize it near lockout, but the shirt kicks in like a mofo about halfway down the lift.

Do you still have my email address holmes? we can work something out. You need a wide belt when you use the fury too, because you need to pull the front of the shirt WAY down then cinch it in place in order to get the full effect out of it, if you have a narrow (bb style) belt the shirt tends to slide out. The fury isn't the easiest shirt but I'll be happy to help you squeeze it dry man. Just be thankful you're not trying to learn a Karin's Denim, those things are ridiculously hard to use.
 
dunimous said:
Hey when do you guys recommend getting into a benching shirt? (like around what max?)

o and btw whats a monolift?
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My group has several 600+ benchers, we usually work up to 355 raw for no more than 4 reps (depending on the lifter) then shirt up, and go up to 405 with 4 boards, and increase weight while decreasing the number of boards, until either a 2 board or full range lift, depending on what we're trying to do.
 
dunimous......what about wraps? yeah, i use em on my last set of squats.

anyhoo, ex, i haven't even used a shirt yet or put one on for that matter. i was just waiting for the raw strength to peak again, then add it but **** didn't work out. but i definately think starting with a double rage-x is a bad idea. most can't even touch with anything less than 600. would you agree? as for a belt, i have the 13mm lever belt from inzer, and that mofo is tight, have bruises the next day. i've got your email somewhere in my account. incoming :D
 
Beelzebub said:
friggin 2 and 4 boards, still haven't gotten those yet.
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I made a 2,3, and 4 board with boards bought from Home Depot. I believe Elite sells a pre-made 2 and 3 board. I'm not a fan of the 4 board (I say this as I'm about to do it tomorrow). I would definitely make a 2 and 3. I esp. love the 3 as it's a nice confidence booster.
 
Beelzebub said:
ex, did you get that email? machine something or another @hotmail
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got and got back. Your belt should work perfectly mang, and the Fury, while tricky, can be mastered without too much trouble (and it's definately worthwhile to do so).
 
ivydude said:
I made a 2,3, and 4 board with boards bought from Home Depot. I believe Elite sells a pre-made 2 and 3 board. I'm not a fan of the 4 board (I say this as I'm about to do it tomorrow). I would definitely make a 2 and 3. I esp. love the 3 as it's a nice confidence booster.
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2 and 3 boards enough, ya think? i'm all new to do using that ****. i'm one of those bb'er turn pl'er guys.
 
Beelzebub said:
2 and 3 boards enough, ya think? i'm all new to do using that ****. i'm one of those bb'er turn pl'er guys.
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4 Board is pretty much lockout range, so if that's a weak point and you need to save some cash you always just do rack lockouts in the power rack and save yourself some money.
 
good point. once that weight gets past the parallel mark, i'm golden. doesn't sound necessary at the moment. thanks for the info. elite, eh? **** it, i need more chalk anyway.
 
Beelzebub said:
thanks for that kelsey. lol, i can't imagine calling louie up. "yo, it's beez, wtf is up with my bench?"
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Beez, give louie a call, he is a great guy and will definitely help you out.
 
Beelzebub,

Have you ever looked into Active Release Therapy? I haven't tried it yet myself, but some of my training partners have been swearing by it. I also know another guy who blew out his pec and had it surgically repaired, and he has been going through the ART therapy. When you call and talk to Louie, I think Amy there is certified in it so maybe you can ask about it.
 
Do bench shirts prevent chest injuries? I remember when the only way to competition bench was raw. Then along came the shirts. Many frowned on using a shirt but switched over because their fellow competitors made the switch.
 
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