Fish Oil goes mainstream

[CryingEmo]

The Government's Big Fish Story - 1 - MSN Health & Fitness

 

[ItsHectic]

15grams is a HUGE dose. I felt like **** at 9 grams.

 

[4CraveEnergyD]

fish oil

That link doesn't work.
What did it say?

 

[johnyq]

here is the same story (which has been posted here before actually):
The Government's Big Fish Story - Men's Health

The Government's Big Fish Story
Scientists worldwide are praising a nutrient so powerful that it may help combat dozens of diseases. But don't expect an endorsement from our policy makers: They say we can do without
By: Sabrina Rubin Erdely, Photographs by: Plamen Petkov
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When Randal McCloy was rushed to West Virginia University Ruby Memorial Hospital's intensive-care unit, he was practically dead. The 27-year-old coal miner had spent 41 hours buried 21/2 miles underground after an explosion in the Sago, West Virginia, mine where he'd been working. His 12 oxygen-starved colleagues had all perished.



"As far as we know, he survived the longest exposure to carbon monoxide poisoning," says Julian Bailes, M.D., the neurosurgeon assigned to the case. McCloy was in a coma and in deep shock, his heart barely beating, one of his lungs collapsed, his liver and both kidneys shut down. Even if he somehow managed to pull through, doctors predicted McCloy would be severely brain damaged, since the carbon monoxide had stripped the protective myelin sheath from most of his brain's neurons. "It's very difficult to come back from a brain injury," says Dr. Bailes. "There's no drug that can help that."



While McCloy was being given oxygen infusions in a hyperbaric chamber, Dr. Bailes was struck by inspiration: He ordered a daily dose of 15,000 milligrams (mg) docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) and eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) for the miner. In layman's terms?



"Fish oil," says Dr. Bailes.



Several weeks passed. Then, unexpectedly, McCloy emerged from his coma. This in itself was amazing, but he wasn't done. In the weeks that followed, he stunned even the most optimistic experts by recovering his memory and gradually regaining his ability to walk, talk, and see, a turnaround that many in the medical field called miraculous.



Although Dr. Bailes believes the hyperbaric chamber may have worked some magic on the myelin, he thinks much of the credit belongs elsewhere. "The omega-3s helped rebuild the damaged gray and white matter of his brain," says Dr. Bailes, who now takes his own medicine, swallowing a fish-oil supplement each morning. On his orders, McCloy, still recuperating at home, continues to take fish oil daily. "I would say he should be on it for a lifetime," says Dr. Bailes. "But then, I think everybody should."



Maybe what fish oil needed all along was a better publicist. After all, this isn't the medical community's first infatuation with omega-3s. Back in 1970, a pair of Danish researchers, Hans Olaf Bang and Jørn Dyerberg, traveled to Greenland to uncover why the Eskimo population there had a low incidence of heart disease despite subsisting on a high-fat diet. Their finding: The Eskimos' blood contained high levels of omega-3s, establishing the first link to heart health. But even though this discovery spurred additional omega-3 research throughout the '70s and '80s, the public remained more interested in other nutrients--none of which had the unfortunate words "fish" or "fatty" in their names.



There are three types of omega-3s: DHA and EPA, found in fish and marine algae (which is where the fish get them), and alpha-linolenic acid (ALA), which is found in plants, seeds, and nuts. All three have health benefits, but those attributed to DHA and EPA have sparked renewed interest in recent years. Studies show that this tag team may not only reduce a person's risk of heart disease and stroke but also possibly help prevent ailments as diverse as arthritis, Alzheimer's disease, asthma, autoimmune disorders, and attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder--and those are just the A's. Researchers are now exploring if these multifunctional fats can, among other things, ward off cancer and even make prison inmates less violent. It's enough to make omega-3 geeks downright giddy.

 

[Halveye]

Great article. I knew there was a reason I was taking fish oil. Maybe a cure all. Peace out.

 

[belmont316]

i think im going to start using fish oil to cut my gear, straight inject it! lol jk.

 

[GotTest]

I love to see an M.D. actually back away from drugs and take a look at supplements for a change!

 

[Xodus]

15grams is a HUGE dose. I felt like **** at 9 grams.

15g isn't that much. I supplement with 10g+ and get additional Omega3's from my diet.

How did you feel like sh*t on 9g?

Describe please. Most people get pretty damn happy on high doses of fish oil due to the increase of serotonin and increased pain tolerance.

Hell, even the fish burps make me happy.

 

[wontdie]

yeah, 6g makes me happy enough.

 

[GotTest]

This was "therapeutic" dosing. He was in a coma, so probably injected some how.

 

[dannyboy9]

This isn't a new article whatsoever but it hasn't been mainstreamed much at all. It should be for the sake of nutritional therapy purposes. People all over the world are allowing the medical industry to eat up their brains, leading them to believe there's no cure for ailments such as Hepatitis C: a completely false statement.

I love to see an M.D. actually back away from drugs and take a look at supplements for a change!

It's not very common, but there are ones like that. I work with a few of them that have transitioned. It took a bit of educating and even some "re-educating, if you will, but it fell through nicely. I believe djbombsquad works with a doctor (internist) as well and he mainly works with nutritional supplements whenever possible.

15grams is a HUGE dose. I felt like **** at 9 grams.

I agree with Xodus. Elaborate a little more because it seems to me you're attributing your experience to the wrong substance. Something like Omega 3's will not make you feel how you mentioned....

 

[zpnq]

omega-3 has been mainstreamed in Australia, adverts on tv loaves of bread with it, anything and everything with it in it is advertised as having it etc etc.

 

[4CraveEnergyD]

Omega 3s are awesome

:goodpost:

 

[The Flash]

15g isn't that much. I supplement with 10g+ and get additional Omega3's from my diet.

How did you feel like sh*t on 9g?

Describe please. Most people get pretty damn happy on high doses of fish oil due to the increase of serotonin and increased pain tolerance.

Hell, even the fish burps make me happy.

It wasn't 15g of fishoil though, it was 15g of (DHA) and (EPA) thats a LOT of fish oil pills, depends on the concentration of epa and dha though. Correct me if im wrong =p

 

[4CraveEnergyD]

amount

If I take as much as ya'll, will I be able to breathe under water?:run:

 

[CryingEmo]

It wasn't 15g of fishoil though, it was 15g of (DHA) and (EPA) thats a LOT of fish oil pills, depends on the concentration of epa and dha though. Correct me if im wrong =p

If you use bulk fish oil caps, or the standard formula, you're talking exactly 50 caps a day. So 10 caps a meal for 5 meals a day. That's not much. On the AD diet I can easily hit that, and even more if I wanted to.

 

[Xodus]

If you use bulk fish oil caps, or the standard formula, you're talking exactly 50 caps a day. So 10 caps a meal for 5 meals a day. That's not much. On the AD diet I can easily hit that, and even more if I wanted to.

Liquid is where its at...

 

[CryingEmo]

Liquid is where its at...

True, but I was giving an example of how much it was for 15 grams.


Liquid is easier, a little less acurate though when your throwing back teaspons and the liquid is dripping off and flying everywhere.

 

[fatboy]

If you use bulk fish oil caps, or the standard formula, you're talking exactly 50 caps a day. So 10 caps a meal for 5 meals a day. That's not much. On the AD diet I can easily hit that, and even more if I wanted to.

You're just teasing me right? You get 450 cal/day from fish oil?!? The extra 90 cal/day I get from the 10 g I take already causes weight loss problems for me. (The increased insulin sensitivity and relief from Seasonal Affective Disorder more than make up for it, for me at least.)

 

[cranghel099]

Liquid is where its at...

Agreed, carlson's fish oil is liquid form, taste fine, and extremely potent, more cost effective as well

 

[Xodus]

You're just teasing me right? You get 450 cal/day from fish oil?!? The extra 90 cal/day I get from the 10 g I take already causes weight loss problems for me. (The increased insulin sensitivity and relief from Seasonal Affective Disorder more than make up for it, for me at least.)

Are you taking into account the additional 450 cals and reducing it from your carb intake?

 

[Mo250]

I use NOW's super EPA softgels and NOW's liquid fish oil.

 

[cranghel099]

I use NOW's super EPA softgels and NOW's liquid fish oil.

word, what's the price on that now's liquid fish oil, because carlson's fish oil is awesome but a bit pricy

 

[BigCasino]

15g isn't that much. I supplement with 10g+ and get additional Omega3's from my diet.

How did you feel like sh*t on 9g?

Describe please. Most people get pretty damn happy on high doses of fish oil due to the increase of serotonin and increased pain tolerance.

Hell, even the fish burps make me happy.

Amen brother,

I am on 30grams a day for the past months now and I feel fantastic. I have gotten leaner while gaining 3lbs. Have more viens visible. Also, I am in a better mood more often. I'm taking the caps too

 

[Mo250]

word, what's the price on that now's liquid fish oil, because carlson's fish oil is awesome but a bit pricy

$22.16 for 500ml of NOW's fish oil

$25.46 for 500ml of Carlson's fish oil

I had Carlson's brand before, just wanted to try a different one.

 

[rhynoflex]

Fish oil is the best I use the Carlson's kind and take it by the teaspoon BABY!

 

[Mo250]

I tried a tablespoon of that stuff once. I must say its pretty good to clean your insides. have you guys gotten fish burps

 

[krazy]

I tried a tablespoon of that stuff once. I must say its pretty good to clean your insides. have you guys gotten fish burps

Yeah. Normal.

 

[Wolfenstein]

Omega 3 is good, for bodybuilding though, too much can hinder muscle building. Its anti-inflammatory property's prevent necessary enzymes from inducing protein synth. A good balance between 3&6 is optimum(6 being inflammatory)2:1. Udos oil is prob the best, he uses flax because its uncontaminated and not as sensitive as fish oil(breaks down when processing). abit expensive though.