First Tren run soon. Any inside advise besides the obvious.

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Just had my latest bloodwork for TRT doc, assuming everything looks ok, will be starting my first tren cycle next week.

Will be starting 50mg of Tren Ace EOD will up to 70-75 mg EOD after first couple weeks if no sides. Plan on .5mg of caber for prolactin control. And 5mg of cialis daily for blood pressure. Will also run 10mg of cardarine a day.

Plan on running 8-12 weeks depending on how I respond, goal will be fat loss/recomp.
 
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12 weeks is a long time to run Ace. If you were running tren e that would be fine I’d say 8 weeks ace.
 

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I am contemplating similar thing, tren ace run for 4.5 weeks to end the cycle, since i already have the tren (exactly that amount, to run 25mg ed for 4.5 weeks).

I plan to go go 25mg ed, seems like a better choice than 50mg eod, you wont have such spikes in trenbolone concentration in your system.

Same here, cialis on stand by for bp control, although i naturally have borderline low blood pressure.
 
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I would add in some Proviron if you can. Say 50mg a day
 
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Also some GW for endurance and bronchial constriction sides. A game changer
 
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Yeah cardarine, 10mg a day. I plan on it. Unless you mean something else when you say GW
 
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I would add in some Proviron if you can. Say 50mg a day
I have some and thought about it, but tren is already so androgenic, and I am probably going to run anavar toward the end and beyond this cycle, so I want to keep the liver fresh. I have it on standby though

Anybody else have thoughts on Proviron with tren.
 
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I have some and thought about it, but tren is already so androgenic, and I am probably going to run anavar toward the end and beyond this cycle, so I want to keep the liver fresh. I have it on standby though

Anybody else have thoughts on Proviron with tren.
I know alot of guys that run it. Just not on AM
 
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Proviron makes any cycle better, just a feel good compound but how much you want to put in your body is the question
 
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Proviron makes any cycle better, just a feel good compound but how much you want to put in your body is the question
Oh yeah I love proviron. As I said above, I plan on running anavar towards end and after tren cycle, will probably throw in Proviron with that, don’t want to be on orals for that long even if it is Proviron and var. they aren’t as bad on you but they still take effect.

But I agree Proviron makes everything better.

Although if libido starts tanking for some reason Proviron it is
 

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Try not to end up on the news with Tren...lol. Always alway always..say to yourself..relax Im on Tren. Anything over 450 and everyone is a potential blood fountain....for me at least.
 
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Try not to end up on the news with Tren...lol. Always alway always..say to yourself..relax Im on Tren. Anything over 450 and everyone is a potential blood fountain....for me at least.
Lol yeah I’m not getting anywhere near 450. Not this time at least........
 

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Oh yeah I love proviron. As I said above, I plan on running anavar towards end and after tren cycle, will probably throw in Proviron with that, don’t want to be on orals for that long even if it is Proviron and var. they aren’t as bad on you but they still take effect.

But I agree Proviron makes everything better.

Although if libido starts tanking for some reason Proviron it is
I was looking into throwing a bit of anavar but i would be worried about my kidneys having both tren AND anavar in my system as both are hard on the kidneys.

also, cant wait to see whay my temper will be like.

@Nac call me an idiot, but nothing works as well for creating the biggest boner like that vacuum pump tube. I bought one cheaply years ago and never really used it.

But now since i dont get erections anymore i do use it from time to time so that things dont seize down there hahahahah it works wonderfully.
 

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I was looking into throwing a bit of anavar but i would be worried about my kidneys having both tren AND anavar in my system as both are hard on the kidneys.

also, cant wait to see whay my temper will be like.

My opinion will draw the haters. But the kidney damage issue from a 12 to 16 week run is extremely over hyped. No worse than drinking a few beers a night.
 

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Idk man, with the luck i have, even a short 5 week run could wreck me.

We'll see, havent acquired anavar yet.
 

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Idk man, with the luck i have, even a short 5 week run could wreck me.

We'll see, havent acquired anavar yet.
Im lucky, as you guys know, I never have any issues. Bloods, E sides etc..IDK. Everybody's chemistry is different.
 

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Try not to end up on the news with Tren...lol. Always alway always..say to yourself..relax Im on Tren. Anything over 450 and everyone is a potential blood fountain....for me at least.
You know when they say how firearms are evil etc

I am pretty sure most violent beatings/murders are done with a cold weapon, anything one has at hand at the time one experiences a fit of rage.

by the time you reach your firearm, you will most likely rethink your actions 2 or 3 times if it is not a genuine threat to your family or you.

So no, i am not worried about shooting anyone.
 

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You know when they say how firearms are evil etc

I am pretty sure most violent beatings/murders are done with a cold weapon, anything one has at hand at the time one experiences a fit of rage.

by the time you reach your firearm, you will most likely rethink your actions 2 or 3 times if it is not a genuine threat to your family or you.

So no, i am not worried about shooting anyone.
I was kidding bro
 

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On tren now. At the gym now. Literally watching myself grow. Eating 6 to 8 super clean meals a day. Strength gains are insane..insane
 

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I was kidding bro
I know man.

But sometimes when i think about my upcoming cycle (especially the tren part) i take a glance at my coworkers being all responsible and well-mannered, and I genuinely think: "poor bastards, what did they do so horrible that they will have to go through that (working with me being on that sh1t).
 

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On tren now. At the gym now. Literally watching myself grow. Eating 6 to 8 super clean meals a day. Strength gains are insane..insane
I know man.

But sometimes when i think about my upcoming cycle (especially the tren part) i take a glance at my coworkers being all responsible and well-mannered, and I genuinely think: "poor bastards, what did they do so horrible that they will have to go through that (working with me being on that sh1t).
Are you married or have a GF?
 

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Nope hahahahah 4ever alone

Tbh libido is 100% tanked post this last cycle
 

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On tren now. At the gym now. Literally watching myself grow. Eating 6 to 8 super clean meals a day. Strength gains are insane..insane
I know man.

But sometimes when i think about my upcoming cycle (especially the tren part) i take a glance at my coworkers being all responsible and well-mannered, and I genuinely think: "poor bastards, what did they do so horrible that they will have to go through that (working with me being on that sh1t).
Are you married or have a GF?
Nope hahahahwh
That is a very very good thing
 
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I’m more worried about the Tren cough than killing someone. I hear that can be a 30 seconds of hell.

Any tips on minimizing one of the coughing fits?
 

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On tren now. At the gym now. Literally watching myself grow. Eating 6 to 8 super clean meals a day. Strength gains are insane..insane
I know man.

But sometimes when i think about my upcoming cycle (especially the tren part) i take a glance at my coworkers being all responsible and well-mannered, and I genuinely think: "poor bastards, what did they do so horrible that they will have to go through that (working with me being on that sh1t).
Are you married or have a GF?
Nope hahahahwh
That is a very very good thing
I’m more worried about the Tren cough than killing someone. I hear that can be a 30 seconds of hell.

Any tips on minimizing one of the coughing fits?
I only got it once..but holy hell..on my hand and knees..thought I was going to die. I heard real real slow inject greatly reduces the chances.
 

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I’m more worried about the Tren cough than killing someone. I hear that can be a 30 seconds of hell.

Any tips on minimizing one of the coughing fits?
I would spray ventolin down my throat if that happened.
 
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I’m more worried about the Tren cough than killing someone. I hear that can be a 30 seconds of hell.

Any tips on minimizing one of the coughing fits?
Ive only got the cough from ace twice usually it’s if you knick a vein because some of that will seep into bloodstream. If you real worried aspirate. Also if you get real good tren you can feel it take your breath away a bit you won’t cough but you will definitely know.
 

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Ive only got the cough from ace twice usually it’s if you knick a vein because some of that will seep into bloodstream. If you real worried aspirate. Also if you get real good tren you can feel it take your breath away a bit you won’t cough but you will definitely know.
You mean the constant lack of cardio?

But that depends on the dose, right?
 
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You mean the constant lack of cardio?

But that depends on the dose, right?
No tren cough when you pin if it gets in the blood and pump to the heart it feels like your gonna die cause it immediately takes your breath away. But yes tren does effect breathing all around but like someone mentioned cardarine will take care of that and help with your lipids. Yes it will be dose dependent how much it effects you but no matter what even low dose with no caradarine you will notice it even just walking up a set of stairs.
 

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This stuff sounds really like something to blast for few weeks to peak the cycle and be done with it.

What the hell have i been thinking when i acquired it 😁
 
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I would say you always want test above Tren. I have only run Oral tren. But always told you dont want your Tren higher than your test
 

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I would say you always want test above Tren. I have only run Oral tren. But always told you dont want your Tren higher than your test
I honestly have heard both. In equal measures. Some say more sides with higher test...I have never found a definitive answer. I have read that Tren has a higher binding affinity and therefore the test that doesnt bind will convert...which really doesnt make sense. Its not like we have a determined number of receptors and a dose of Tren or Test has a specific number of molecules to bind to that determined number of receptors. Doesnt make sense. Id rock it 50/50 and see how it goes.
 

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I honestly have heard both. In equal measures. Some say more sides with higher test...I have never found a definitive answer. I have read that Tren has a higher binding affinity and therefore the test that doesnt bind will convert...which really doesnt make sense. Its not like we have a determined number of receptors and a dose of Tren or Test has a specific number of molecules to bind to that determined number of receptors. Doesnt make sense. Id rock it 50/50 and see how it goes.
Heres some of that bro science I was referring to.
 

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