First time using trenadrol

elar14

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Hello all,

I am new to this forum, but not new to forums in general, so as a n00b, i would like to say hi to all of you, and it seems you have a great forum here.

now, i am not new to working out, nor am i new to taking some supplements from time to time, although for the most part i have stuck to amino acids, creatine and protein powder. i am in the navy and work out about 3 times a week, but have kind of hit a plateau. so here is what i have on hand for my first cycle, i have searched this and other forums, and havent seen anyone doing exactly the same thing, so i wanted to make sure i had the supports all right, please inform me if i need to add or subtract or do something differently. here is what i have on hand:

trenadrol
formadrol
milk thistle
saw palmetto
DHEA
5-htp

along with multivitamins, fish oil, protein powder and creatine.

here is my plan of action:

take one 30 mg trenadrol pill every day for a week or so, and starting the hawthorn berry at the recommended dosage on the bottle, 565mg once or twice a day, continuing this through my cycle. DHEA at one 25 mg pill a day throughout the cycle and 5-htp at 100mg a day up to twice daily throughout the cycle. after one week of trenadrol at the minimum dose, i will up the dose to 60 mgs IF i feel it would be helpful, in which case i would continue this for the following 4 weeks until the bottle is gone, but if 60 mgs seems to high for me, i would only take it out to a 6 weeks in total, using 30mgs the whole time.

toward the end of the cycle, i will begin adding the milk thistle at the bottle recommended dosage of 200 mgs up to three times daily. also i would start taking the saw palmetto at 160mgs daily, and this is also when i would begin taking the formadrol xl at two a day.

please let me know if i am missing anything, or should change anything up. i havent started yet as i want to do all my research before i begin (and on the 14th i am having a party and want to be able to drink ;) ) - im not looking forward to giving up caffeine either :(

here are my stats:

age:34
ht:5'10"
wt:190lbs
goals: burn off fat and gain some lean muscle mass

thanks in advance for any advice :)

oh, and if i posted in the wrong area, please help me move it to the proper place!

thanks :)

EDIT: i will be taking the fish oil the entire cycle
 
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from the potentcy that most ppl report of these "tren" designers, i would advise u to get nolva or clomid for PCT
 
mikeyb123 said:
I woulld add Milk Thistle before during and after this cycle.

Whats your PCT?
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why?
trenadrol is non-methylate

you MOST DEFINATELY NEED A SERM FOR THIS ONE!!!!!!!
you get shut down from trenadrol.

honestly, i would just start at 90mg and run that for 6 weeks.

run clomid for pct at 50mg for 4 weeks with nolva 40/40/20/20.
 
for just trenadrol, i think you can get away with

clomid 50/50/50/25 and Reversitol or PCS
 
thanks for all the great advice so far guys, i will get some reversitol or nova...but then at what point should i use the formadrol? no one really answered me if i could use the formadrol as a PCT or not...it claims on the bottle to have a SERM formula...of course i know not to trust the bottle about everything...

also two more questions:

i have some 1 androsterone (from advanced muscle science) sitting around here, would it hurt to stack with the trenadrol?

and the other question is, i have to run since i am in the military, what should i do to avoid the back pumps? i know alot of water, and bananas, i have also heard creatine too...any thoughts?
 
lots of water and taurine for back pumps. also tonic water helps because of the quinone. however, for your trenadrol cycle, get your hands on some p5p, bulk 1-carboxy and/or vitex.
 
well guys, 2 more days until i cycle off of the tren...i gotta say, it was a great experience overall, i made some great gains in size and strength, much quicker than without a PH

i did end up stacking the AMS androsterone in there, despite all the crap people have talked about the product, i thought it worked nicely, i started with 4 caps, then went to 6 and i have to say, it added some real size to the lean gains i was getting from tren, and it made me hungry as f*ck. the only downsides were that it was crazy expensive, and clearly underdosed...oh, and i seemed to lose the gains as soon as i stopped taking it...hmmm...i guess it kind of was crap ha...well, the extra size it gave me at least helped me heave up more in the gym...and the hunger helped me pack in the calories.

anyway, as i wrap this cycle up and start my PCT, i just thought i would run the PCT by you guys and see what you think:

im going to use the formadrol as PCT...i know it has mixed reviews, but i bought it and damn it, im going to give it a try! so, i will be dosing it like this:

week 1: 4 caps
week 2: 3 caps
week 3: 2 caps
week 4: 1 cap
that leaves me with about 20 or so left over in case i think i still need any...

i also will be running 200mg of milk thistle, 1 in the morning, and 1 at night. i have saw palmetto, but dont know if i need it, i havent noticed my prostate swelling other than the first week on cycle...but i have it if i need it.

also, any opinions on DHEA for post cycle? i have that too...ill probably take it at the bottle recommended dosage for the first week or so...just to get my libido back out of the toilet (i havent really missed it, nor has my wife, she is 9 months pregnant)

of course i have the usual supps on hand, multi vitamin, whey protein, etc.

can anyone think of anything im missing? (yes, i know a few will recommend clomid or nolva...)

thanks for all the help guys, this site has really helped me do this cycle intelligently

EDIT: i forgot to ask about using creatine and or ephedrine on the PCT...any thoughts about whether to use either of them or not?
 
yeah from what i have read, you shouldnt take saw palmetto. Eviladams and a few other vetrans on this site have said the same thing. And you should check out toremifene citrate. it has the serm ability of nolva and the LH boosting power of clomid without the vision issues. you can get it online as a research chemical so it is legal and ships fast.

here is dosage for it. this is all i did for pct (and myogenix liver fix) for a havoc/trenadrol cycle at 50mg havoc, 120mg tren for 5 weeks and i have 0 gyno. worked great

Week 1 - 120MG or 2ML x 7days = 14ML
Week 2 - 80MG or 1 1/3ML x 7days = 9 1/3ML
Week 3 - 40MG or 2/3ML x 7days = 4 2/3ML
Week 4 - 20MG or 1/3ML x 7days = 2 1/3ML
Total = 30 1/3 ML


also it would seem like you would want to take creatine, since you said that you are losing gains immediately, so by taking creatine, you can at least maintain some kind of strentgh level in my opinion
 
i meant i lost the gains from the androsterone when i stopped taking it...the tren gains stayed...if that makes any sense...
 
lol yeah i know what you mean. i had the same thing happen on my havoc trenadrol stack. the trenadrol boosted my strength like crazy but the havoc is what built the muscle. i kept the muscle and lost the strength!!!

But even if you get the trenadrol and just keep it ready just incase, that will be cool too. Formadrol is OK but its not as good as torem. i took epistane one time (and i didnt know what it was or that it was a pro hormone) because it said "anti-estrogen" because i had been taking Gaspari novadex XT and some other anti estrogens since i wasnt ready to get into PHs and i just took an over the counter test booster/antiestrogen/mild serm and i got gyno really bad. still have the puffy tissue. i would rather not risk doing that again so i keep nolva or something ready just in case.
 
I'm gonna be stacking 60 mg's with 30 mg's superdrol for my next cycle. I've recently heard that it's not worth it to go past 60 mg's or 30 days. My last cycle was phera - 45, trenadrol - 90 and the sides weren't terrible but def there (hairline, acne, swelling nips) I still strongly believe trenadrol is different from extreme tren but I don't think its what's on the label..2 pills a day and strength goes through the roof, w/e it is it works so I'm gonna use it. After this cycle I'm gonna be using the cheapest normal tren product for 6 weeks at 120 mg's with cel's new p-mag at 75mg's...ahhh good days ahead. Anyways, trenadrol rocks but I wish I knew what was in it...good luck wit ur cycle homie
 
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indianballer said:
I'm gonna be stacking 60 mg's with 30 mg's superdrol for my next cycle. I've recently heard that it's not worth it to go past 60 mg's or 30 days. My last cycle was phera - 45, trenadrol - 90 and the sides weren't terrible but def there (hairline, acne, swelling nips) I still strongly believe trenadrol is different from extreme tren but I don't think its what's on the label..2 pills a day and strength goes through the roof, w/e it is it works so I'm gonna use it. After this cycle I'm gonna be using the cheapest normal tren product for 6 weeks at 120 mg's with cel's new p-mag at 75mg's...ahhh good days ahead. Anyways, trenadrol rocks but I wish I knew what was in it...good luck wit ur cycle homie
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Hey Bro Quick question why do you think Trenadrol is different from some other Tren clone?
 
elar14 said:
well guys, 2 more days until i cycle off of the tren...i gotta say, it was a great experience overall, i made some great gains in size and strength, much quicker than without a PH

i did end up stacking the AMS androsterone in there, despite all the crap people have talked about the product, i thought it worked nicely, i started with 4 caps, then went to 6 and i have to say, it added some real size to the lean gains i was getting from tren, and it made me hungry as f*ck. the only downsides were that it was crazy expensive, and clearly underdosed...oh, and i seemed to lose the gains as soon as i stopped taking it...hmmm...i guess it kind of was crap ha...well, the extra size it gave me at least helped me heave up more in the gym...and the hunger helped me pack in the calories.

anyway, as i wrap this cycle up and start my PCT, i just thought i would run the PCT by you guys and see what you think:

im going to use the formadrol as PCT...i know it has mixed reviews, but i bought it and damn it, im going to give it a try! so, i will be dosing it like this:

week 1: 4 caps
week 2: 3 caps
week 3: 2 caps
week 4: 1 cap
that leaves me with about 20 or so left over in case i think i still need any...

i also will be running 200mg of milk thistle, 1 in the morning, and 1 at night. i have saw palmetto, but dont know if i need it, i havent noticed my prostate swelling other than the first week on cycle...but i have it if i need it.

also, any opinions on DHEA for post cycle? i have that too...ill probably take it at the bottle recommended dosage for the first week or so...just to get my libido back out of the toilet (i havent really missed it, nor has my wife, she is 9 months pregnant)

of course i have the usual supps on hand, multi vitamin, whey protein, etc.

can anyone think of anything im missing? (yes, i know a few will recommend clomid or nolva...)

thanks for all the help guys, this site has really helped me do this cycle intelligently

EDIT: i forgot to ask about using creatine and or ephedrine on the PCT...any thoughts about whether to use either of them or not?
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Can I ask what the Lot # of your Trenadrol is? I`m asking in relation to the Bad Tren thread on this forum. Thanks.
 
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