First time SARMS

[Bkk92233]

Hi everyone
Firstly, my ultimate goal is to lose body fat and eventually focus on building lean muscle. My BMI currently is at 27.4. Years ago I did a cycle of anavar, which was great, but I wasn’t as committed as I feel now. I have been dieting and exercising but have reached a point where I am just maintaining. I am going to do a cycle of cardarine first to lose as much fat as I can and then in cycle 2 I will stack cardarine and ostarine together depending on where I am at after my first cycle. Since this is my first time with SARMS, does anyone have any experience with either card or ost and can tell me what I can expect? Any tips? Does my plan look ok? Should I do PCT after 8 weeks of 15mg ost? Do I need to take a break in between cycle 1 and cycle 2 if I am only doing card in cycle 1 or can I just add on ost when I feel satisfied enough with the card? Those are all my questions! Thank you!!

 

[Bkk92233]

I should clarify, I am a female

 

[Oliver Kween]

Hi everyone
Firstly, my ultimate goal is to lose body fat and eventually focus on building lean muscle. My BMI currently is at 27.4. Years ago I did a cycle of anavar, which was great, but I wasn’t as committed as I feel now. I have been dieting and exercising but have reached a point where I am just maintaining. I am going to do a cycle of cardarine first to lose as much fat as I can and then in cycle 2 I will stack cardarine and ostarine together depending on where I am at after my first cycle. Since this is my first time with SARMS, does anyone have any experience with either card or ost and can tell me what I can expect? Any tips? Does my plan look ok? Should I do PCT after 8 weeks of 15mg ost? Do I need to take a break in between cycle 1 and cycle 2 if I am only doing card in cycle 1 or can I just add on ost when I feel satisfied enough with the card? Those are all my questions! Thank you!!

Hey Hello,

I don't think gender makes a so big difference, but just from dosage

Good for cardarine. You can supplement with SR09 for leverage. Try looking at the products at @sns8778 ( Home | Serious Nutrition Solutions ) like Thermo Scorch for fat burning, it can help a lot. I don't have any info, if you have to do a PCT for women, but you should keep your Estro up to date. To avoid virilization, although Osta is a fairly mild sarms. Some guy here ( @Smont lol ) doesn't favor it contraitemetn to LGD ( I prefer LGD for what they say on OSta, but that's a supression T story )

For Cycles, you don't have to worry about suppression. That's why you can add RAD140.

But since you are a beginner.

I also suppose to go through a blood test

I suppose personally, a cycle of 4 weeks to "test" your reaction and effects. Don't forget that sarms have no value if efforts don't follow.

A cycle of 5-10 on OSTA
W1 to W2 at "5 or "7 and W3 to W4 at "7, or "10. ( You will go to 15 if you have had a good experience to push a little over 1 to 2 additional weeks)

For Cardarine.
Try 10Mg OD at 45 mn before training. Up with Créatine and EEA

So,

You are not excluded from liver supplements like Tudca, nac omega 3 for example.

You should also present us your program?
Fit? Lifting? Cross? And your type of exercises. Everything will have a role on your cycle.
Check your nutrients too.

Then as I am not an expert, others will leave you here other opinions on your request .

You can sort and choose what suits you

 

[Bkk92233]

Thanks for the reply! Starting out I just want to stick with cardarine and ost for now until I reassess effectiveness and my goals and do you mean diet/exercise by “efforts”? What does SR09 do? Sorry I’m a noob to SARMS! My last blood work looked great, everything in range. Liver functions were good. I’ll def look into supps for support too! I for sure am more interested in fat burning power right now so I’ll take a look at that link! Thanks so much!! Do you think I could run cardarine for 12 weeks, but add ost at week 4 without having to stop the cardarine and breaking the cycle? Or should I just run cardarine for 12 weeks, break and start cycle 2 with a card/ost stack? Would it matter? I know cardarine is ok to run prolonged by itself. I’m going to run 20mg card and 15mg ost maximum. I don’t plan on bulking, just interested in cutting and toning right now.

 

[Jeremyk1]

I don’t have a lot of info to go on, but a recommendation I try to give everyone is make sure you can accomplish your goals without drugs first. If you’re trying to lose weight, and it stalls, you need to work on techniques to get it going again without turning to “enhancements”. That will set you up way better for long term success rather than just relying on drugs to get your results for you.

Cardarine, from everything I’ve seen on it, seems to be somewhat overrated as a fat burner. It definitely can enhance fat burning, but the effect won’t be huge. It definitely has benefits such as for endurance and cholesterol levels, but direct fat burning is less than impressive, so I’d recommend looking at other options before going with that.

Other than that, @smont is a good guy for research chemicals. He’s a rep for MA, top notch brand for SARMs and other RCs.

And I know @Hyde has some experience with PED usage for females as his wife is a competitive athlete, so he may have advice as well.

 

[Oliver Kween]

Thanks for the reply! Starting out I just want to stick with cardarine and ost for now until I reassess effectiveness and my goals and do you mean diet/exercise by “efforts”? What does SR09 do? Sorry I’m a noob to SARMS! My last blood work looked great, everything in range. Liver functions were good. I’ll def look into supps for support too! I for sure am more interested in fat burning power right now so I’ll take a look at that link! Thanks so much!! Do you think I could run cardarine for 12 weeks, but add ost at week 4 without having to stop the cardarine and breaking the cycle? Or should I just run cardarine for 12 weeks, break and start cycle 2 with a card/ost stack? Would it matter? I know cardarine is ok to run prolonged by itself. I’m going to run 20mg card and 15mg ost maximum. I don’t plan on bulking, just interested in cutting and toning right now.

Yup,

That's it, I'm talking about diet. Diet efforts.

I agree with @Jeremyk1, the "without" PED and the better option.

But as I felt the mitovation I proposed this option to you as you pointed it out by Sarms.

Cardarine is not strictly speaking a Samrs. That's why you can extend it without abusing it. 12 weeks and perfect at 10-15mg for example; SR09 is also a fat burner as rated as Cardarine and sometimes used together.

OST = Ostarine you will get used to our "speak" here.

It's a good idea either way. For something clean you can start with Ostarine right from the start, it will attack the fat. (I loved Cardarine because it gives me good effects that's why I give it favoritism); SR09 Is a bit like Cardarine and also helps in burning, it is also a Sarms ( For exemlple: Invalid Link Removed )

Then, as you are talking about Ostarine, you can maintain it for the first 4 weeks at the same time as Cardarine.
( So 1-4 for Ostarine during 1-12 with Osta )

Ok, as you bet on cutting you need exercises in function, HIT etc.. And an adapted DIET. I'm not very good at DIET advice

Once your goal is reached, you can stop everything and keep a support line with a fat burner. . And put on your best summer suit

 

[Mikereyn513]

Start with the cardarine at maresearchchems.net use code smont for 15% off my bro @Smont is a rep from there he's also really knowledgeable @Hyde Might be able to help as well his wife is a competitive lifter

 

[Bkk92233]

Yup,

That's it, I'm talking about diet. Diet efforts.

I agree with @Jeremyk1, the "without" PED and the better option.

But as I felt the mitovation I proposed this option to you as you pointed it out by Sarms.

Cardarine is not strictly speaking a Samrs. That's why you can extend it without abusing it. 12 weeks and perfect at 10-15mg for example; SR09 is also a fat burner as rated as Cardarine and sometimes used together.

OST = Ostarine you will get used to our "speak" here.

It's a good idea either way. For something clean you can start with Ostarine right from the start, it will attack the fat. (I loved Cardarine because it gives me good effects that's why I give it favoritism); SR09 Is a bit like Cardarine and also helps in burning, it is also a Sarms ( For exemlple: Invalid Link Removed )

Then, as you are talking about Ostarine, you can maintain it for the first 4 weeks at the same time as Cardarine.
( So 1-4 for Ostarine during 1-12 with Osta )

Ok, as you bet on cutting you need exercises in function, HIT etc.. And an adapted DIET. I'm not very good at DIET advice

Once your goal is reached, you can stop everything and keep a support line with a fat burner. . And put on your best summer suit

Thank you!! I’ve been able to lose 25 lbs with diet alone so far

 

[Mikereyn513]

Thank you!! I’ve been able to lose 25 lbs with diet alone so far

Right on..obviously diet is most important and the fact that you know this will make your goals more realistic and attainable

 

[Bkk92233]

Right on..obviously diet is most important and the fact that you know this will make your goals more realistic and attainable

Hi everyone
Firstly, my ultimate goal is to lose body fat and eventually focus on building lean muscle. My BMI currently is at 27.4. Years ago I did a cycle of anavar, which was great, but I wasn’t as committed as I feel now. I have been dieting and exercising but have reached a point where I am just maintaining. I am going to do a cycle of cardarine first to lose as much fat as I can and then in cycle 2 I will stack cardarine and ostarine together depending on where I am at after my first cycle. Since this is my first time with SARMS, does anyone have any experience with either card or ost and can tell me what I can expect? Any tips? Does my plan look ok? Should I do PCT after 8 weeks of 15mg ost? Do I need to take a break in between cycle 1 and cycle 2 if I am only doing card in cycle 1 or can I just add on ost when I feel satisfied enough with the card? Those are all my questions! Thank you!!

Decided I will run cardarine and stenbolic together for 12 weeks to start off. Will reassess after to see if I need the ostarine thanks guys!

 

[Bkk92233]

Decided I will run cardarine and stenbolic together for 12 weeks to start off. Will reassess after to see if I need the ostarine thanks guys!

Also got some thermo scorch

 

[Smont]

I should clarify, I am a female

Carderine is not a sarm, osta is. I'm not a fan of osta for men but many females seem to do good on 5-10mg of osta or lgd. I'd say lgd is pretty on par with anavar mg vs. Mg in many ways. So whatever dose of anavar you have used will probably be a good dose of lgd, or ostarine. I apologize for the short response but I didn't get a chance to read the whole thread, busy day.

Is there more specific questions I may have missed?

 

[Bkk92233]

Carderine is not a sarm, osta is. I'm not a fan of osta for men but many females seem to do good on 5-10mg of osta or lgd. I'd say lgd is pretty on par with anavar mg vs. Mg in many ways. So whatever dose of anavar you have used will probably be a good dose of lgd, or ostarine. I apologize for the short response but I didn't get a chance to read the whole thread, busy day.

Is there more specific questions I may have missed?

Aware that cardarine is not a sarm which is a good thing! I actually decided I’m going to run cardarine and stenbolic together for 12 weeks and reassess after if I want to do a cycle of ost. My goal is to lose as much body fat as possible initially. I don’t know what my muscle tone looks like currently since my BF is pretty high, not sure the percentage but I’m 5’2 150lbs BMI 27.4 I’ve lost 25 lbs naturally (mostly baby weight) but I’ve hit a wall. I’m in a caloric deficit and eat low fat. My body is complicated especially after having a baby but all my labs look great, no thyroid issues etc. so that’s why I’ve decided to run sarms. I want to look and feel the best I ever have. I naturally bulk really easily so I’m a bit weary of adding anything too strong to build muscle as my goal is to not get big. Want to lean out and eventually build lean muscle. My question would be, can I run cardarine and sten for 12 weeks and add in a cycle of ost if I should decide I want it? Or would I need to stop the cardarine and sten, take a break, and begin a new cycle? I know that both cardarine and sten are ok to run prolonged but I only would want 6-8 weeks of ost. Could I run card and sten for 12 weeks, on week 12 add add in ost for another 8 weeks?

 

[Smont]

Aware that cardarine is not a sarm which is a good thing! I actually decided I’m going to run cardarine and stenbolic together for 12 weeks and reassess after if I want to do a cycle of ost. My goal is to lose as much body fat as possible initially. I don’t know what my muscle tone looks like currently since my BF is pretty high, not sure the percentage but I’m 5’2 150lbs BMI 27.4 I’ve lost 25 lbs naturally (mostly baby weight) but I’ve hit a wall. I’m in a caloric deficit and eat low fat. My body is complicated especially after having a baby but all my labs look great, no thyroid issues etc. so that’s why I’ve decided to run sarms. I want to look and feel the best I ever have. I naturally bulk really easily so I’m a bit weary of adding anything too strong to build muscle as my goal is to not get big. Want to lean out and eventually build lean muscle. My question would be, can I run cardarine and sten for 12 weeks and add in a cycle of ost if I should decide I want it? Or would I need to stop the cardarine and sten, take a break, and begin a new cycle? I know that both cardarine and sten are ok to run prolonged but I only would want 6-8 weeks of ost. Could I run card and sten for 12 weeks, on week 12 add add in ost for another 8 weeks?

Stenbilolic is sr9009, if it's the oral version you would be better off flushing the money down the toilet. It's only 1% bioavaible. You need injectable SR and it needs to be pinned 2-3x a day.

Also, no1 in history has accidentally got too big. In every gym across the nation there are men juiced to the gills that weigh like 150lbs. No sarms or anavar cycles are gonna get you massive amounts of muscle. The average steroid user on full blown steroid cycles only adds about 10-12lbs of muscle in a year.

I don't know what you mean by baby weight but if your talking about what I think you are, it's bodyfat. Baby weight or bodyfat from childhood is no different then bodyfat gained as a adult. Fat is fat, muscle is muscle.

(Please don't take offense I just tell it like it is, I would say the same things to my significant other) and get yelled at for it lol.

Ditch SR. If your dead set on a sarm I would do 8 weeks of a sarm with cardarine and work your ass off.

Also, if your not on birth control you might wanna get on it. Birth control for females on cycle kinda works like trt for men. I hope this all helps

 

[Bkk92233]

Stenbilolic is sr9009, if it's the oral version you would be better off flushing the money down the toilet. It's only 1% bioavaible. You need injectable SR and it needs to be pinned 2-3x a day.

Also, no1 in history has accidentally got too big. In every gym across the nation there are men juiced to the gills that weigh like 150lbs. No sarms or anavar cycles are gonna get you massive amounts of muscle. The average steroid user on full blown steroid cycles only adds about 10-12lbs of muscle in a year.

I don't know what you mean by baby weight but if your talking about what I think you are, it's bodyfat. Baby weight or bodyfat from childhood is no different then bodyfat gained as a adult. Fat is fat, muscle is muscle.

(Please don't take offense I just tell it like it is, I would say the same things to my significant other) and get yelled at for it lol.

Ditch SR. If your dead set on a sarm I would do 8 weeks of a sarm with cardarine and work your ass off.

Also, if your not on birth control you might wanna get on it. Birth control for females on cycle kinda works like trt for men. I hope this all helps

I mean baby weight as in I had a baby and gained a ton during pregnancy a year ago. it’s all body fat yes.

 

[Bkk92233]

I mean baby weight as in I had a baby and gained a ton during pregnancy a year ago. it’s all body fat yes.

I was 214 when I gave birth. I’m now 150.

 

[Smont]

I mean baby weight as in I had a baby and gained a ton during pregnancy a year ago. it’s all body fat yes.

Oooo lol , I'm sorry. I've heard females refer to their body fat as babyfat or baby weight But not in the context of having a baby. Lol sorry. I get what your saying. It was wait you put on during pregnancy. And actually even though it is body fat that's a little bit different. It's not body fat that you've been carrying from years of poor dieting or whatever. Wait that's gained very quickly can usually be lost quickly too. Yes it's still bodyfat but it's almost foreign to your body. I don't really have any science to back that up. I just usually see a woman who's gained a bunch of weight from having a baby will lose it way faster than someone who's Carrying the same amount of extra weight but they've had it for a long time.

 

[Smont]

And i'm using the talk to text feature so I apologize for typos

 

[Bkk92233]

And i'm using the talk to text feature so I apologize for typos

No worries at all! I’ve been relatively fit my whole life up until a couple years ago. My daughter was conceived via IVF (in vitro fertilization) so I was taking a bunch of medications and hormones that also made me gain during that process. I’ve always been able to shed weight pretty easily, but after pregnancy it’s like my whole metabolism changed. Even being in a caloric deficit as soon as I hit 150lbs I’ve just been maintaining, so my body needs a kick in the butt I started reading about the bioavailability with SR9009. You can take it sublingually to get max benefit. Umbrella labs has a sublingual optimized solution. What is the difference between SR9009 and SR9011? I read that SR9011 might be more efficient but there is not a lot of research backing it?

 

[Smont]

No worries at all! I’ve been relatively fit my whole life up until a couple years ago. My daughter was conceived via IVF (in vitro fertilization) so I was taking a bunch of medications and hormones that also made me gain during that process. I’ve always been able to shed weight pretty easily, but after pregnancy it’s like my whole metabolism changed. Even being in a caloric deficit as soon as I hit 150lbs I’ve just been maintaining, so my body needs a kick in the butt I started reading about the bioavailability with SR9009. You can take it sublingually to get max benefit. Umbrella labs has a sublingual optimized solution. What is the difference between SR9009 and SR9011? I read that SR9011 might be more efficient but there is not a lot of research backing it?

Taking sr9009 any way other then injectable is not going to provide max benefits. All forms of oral administration are a total waste in my opinion. It has a baseline dose needed to work, injectable gives you 99-100% of that dose oral gives you 1%, sublingual is not going to turn 1% into anything significant. Trust me if I didn't have to inject it 3 times A-day and I could just take a pill, I would take the pill. But I'm not about wasting my time and money. If you can find a transdermal application I believe it raises UT to about 20% if I remember correctly. But still, that's not even close to injectable and you would need to still use much more. I don't believe ive ever looked into sr9011. But I will say this, if 9011 was better then everyone would be selling it, and there not

 

[Bkk92233]

Taking sr9009 any way other then injectable is not going to provide max benefits. All forms of oral administration are a total waste in my opinion. It has a baseline dose needed to work, injectable gives you 99-100% of that dose oral gives you 1%, sublingual is not going to turn 1% into anything significant. Trust me if I didn't have to inject it 3 times A-day and I could just take a pill, I would take the pill. But I'm not about wasting my time and money. If you can find a transdermal application I believe it raises UT to about 20% if I remember correctly. But still, that's not even close to injectable and you would need to still use much more. I don't believe ive ever looked into sr9011. But I will say this, if 9011 was better then everyone would be selling it, and there not

Interesting! Well I already made that purchase so I’ll run it anyway. Transdermal would be great cuz I’m not keen on intramuscular injections, I’m a big baby haha. Subq I can do tho! I’ll nix the 9009 once I run out. I’m not even going to mess with 9011 until there is more info about it.

 

[Hyde]

If you haven’t bought the Thermoscorch already, I would opt for Competitive Edge Labs Lipo Elite. This will be worth a couple hundred calories per day and work synergistically with your diet & the Cardarine.

Adding an anabolic like Ostarine isn’t going to help fat loss as much as you would think; they tend to be more about retaining muscle mass for a lifter when dieting. But you don’t have excess muscle to preserve, so just focusing on leaning out is all you need to do, and Ostarine won’t help much with that.

 

[Bkk92233]

If you haven’t bought the Thermoscorch already, I would opt for Competitive Edge Labs Lipo Elite. This will be worth a couple hundred calories per day and work synergistically with your diet & the Cardarine.

Adding an anabolic like Ostarine isn’t going to help fat loss as much as you would think; they tend to be more about retaining muscle mass for a lifter when dieting. But you don’t have excess muscle to preserve, so just focusing on leaning out is all you need to do, and Ostarine won’t help much with that.

Already bought the thermo scorch I’ll get that after I run out! Interesting to know about ost! Would you say that that lgd is better for building lean muscle?

 

[Bkk92233]

If you haven’t bought the Thermoscorch already, I would opt for Competitive Edge Labs Lipo Elite. This will be worth a couple hundred calories per day and work synergistically with your diet & the Cardarine.

Adding an anabolic like Ostarine isn’t going to help fat loss as much as you would think; they tend to be more about retaining muscle mass for a lifter when dieting. But you don’t have excess muscle to preserve, so just focusing on leaning out is all you need to do, and Ostarine won’t help much with that.

And yes main focus is leaning out, I’ll reassess my goals once I’m satisfied I’d like to see how much muscle I actually have first haha

 

[Hyde]

Already bought the thermo scorch I’ll get that after I run out! Interesting to know about ost! Would you say that that lgd is better for building lean muscle?

Thermoscorch is the better product if you don’t want any added stims, like if you want to drink coffee or an energy supplement in the morning then Thermoscorch will stack kindly with it.

LGD is a stronger muscle builder than Ostarine, but for what you say you want I absolutely think Ostarine would be the first SARM to try. But I do not think you need steroids/SARMs to diet off pregnancy weight at all. Just consistent hard work and discipline. If you don’t eat less on Ostarine, you would still not shed fat - you would just acquire more muscleZ

 

[Bkk92233]

Thermoscorch is the better product if you don’t want any added stims, like if you want to drink coffee or an energy supplement in the morning then Thermoscorch will stack kindly with it.

LGD is a stronger muscle builder than Ostarine, but for what you say you want I absolutely think Ostarine would be the first SARM to try. But I do not think you need steroids/SARMs to diet off pregnancy weight at all. Just consistent hard work and discipline. If you don’t eat less on Ostarine, you would still not shed fat - you would just acquire more muscleZ

Well it’s been a year since I had my daughter now so my current weight has been sticking around for a while. I know personally the body that I want will be much much harder to obtain naturally, if even possible at all. But that is also my main reason to wanting to stick with some milder stuff. I don’t want to over-do anything. I average about 1400 calories a day. I also have an extremely busy lifestyle as I am a work from home, stay at home mom and currently in RN school. I work out in my garage and have been consistent with my diet since December. I feel as though I’m ready for extra help now. So that’s why I’m going to run compounds. I will most likely not go above ostarine or lgd unless I decide I have bigger goals, which I don’t really see that happening right now. Stoked to watch my body transform

 

[Bkk92233]

Well it’s been a year since I had my daughter now so my current weight has been sticking around for a while. I know personally the body that I want will be much much harder to obtain naturally, if even possible at all. But that is also my main reason to wanting to stick with some milder stuff. I don’t want to over-do anything. I average about 1400 calories a day. I also have an extremely busy lifestyle as I am a work from home, stay at home mom and currently in RN school. I work out in my garage and have been consistent with my diet since December. I feel as though I’m ready for extra help now. So that’s why I’m going to run compounds. I will most likely not go above ostarine or lgd unless I decide I have bigger goals, which I don’t really see that happening right now. Stoked to watch my body transform

I also have some health things that could possibly be hindering some weight loss (another reason I’m sticking to milder stuff)

 

[Hyde]

I also have some health things that could possibly be hindering some weight loss (another reason I’m sticking to milder stuff)

Do NOT confuse SARMs as “milder stuff” for a woman. They are not. The drug Ostarine is based off of was correlated to causing birth defects in some children after their mothers had previously used it. If you aren’t done having children, I would encourage you to try to avoid any androgen/SARM use since they can totally derail ovulation cycles for some.

They are not free lunches.

 

[Bkk92233]

Do NOT confuse SARMs as “milder stuff” for a woman. They are not. The drug Ostarine is based off of was correlated to causing birth defects in some children after their mothers had previously used it. If you aren’t done having children, I would encourage you to try to avoid any androgen/SARM use since they can totally derail ovulation cycles for some.

They are not free lunches.

Never did I believe they were free lunches. I guess I could have worded that better. They have less sides than something like anavar (which I’ve cycled in the past). I know the dangers of putting these compounds in my body. I know the risks associated with them and it’s lesser of a risk (for me) to run sarms rather than something like anavar. I am a science major, I take anatomy and physiology very seriously and am very familiar with how the endocrine system works. Ovulation cycles are completely irrelevant for my circumstances, I am infertile and require IVF to conceive (in which I have to use chemicals to produce ovulation anyway).

 

[Hyde]

Never did I believe they were free lunches. I guess I could have worded that better. They have less sides than something like anavar (which I’ve cycled in the past). I know the dangers of putting these compounds in my body. I know the risks associated with them and it’s lesser of a risk (for me) to run sarms rather than something like anavar. I am a science major, I take anatomy and physiology very seriously and am very familiar with how the endocrine system works. Ovulation cycles are completely irrelevant for my circumstances, I am infertile and require IVF to conceive (in which I have to use chemicals to produce ovulation anyway).

Since normal ovulation isn’t a concern, I would choose very low dose Anavar over Ostarine if you intend to attempt pregnancy again at some point down the road. Women having children post oxandrolone therapy do not have birth defects associated from prior use of it, and we have decades of use in humans to extrapolate from to understand all of the risks. The same cannot be said for Ostarine.

 

[Bkk92233]

Since normal ovulation isn’t a concern, I would choose very low dose Anavar over Ostarine if you intend to attempt pregnancy again at some point down the road. Women having children post oxandrolone therapy do not have birth defects associated from prior use of it, and we have decades of use in humans to extrapolate from to understand all of the risks. The same cannot be said for Ostarine.

Well the major reason I’m trying to avoid var is due to its high liver toxicity. While my liver functions are good, I do have a digestive disorder so I just have to be super careful with what I run. Maybe I won’t run ost at all. I will have to do more research on that. Maybe lgd is a better option?

 

[Mikereyn513]

Well the major reason I’m trying to avoid var is due to its high liver toxicity. While my liver functions are good, I do have a digestive disorder so I just have to be super careful with what I run. Maybe I won’t run ost at all. I will have to do more research on that. Maybe lgd is a better option?

Okay I was just going to say var is probably your best option compared to sarms. It's actually not to bad on the liver it's thr lipids you have to watch for specific to var

 

[Oliver Kween]

Carderine is not a sarm, osta is. I'm not a fan of osta for men but many females seem to do good on 5-10mg of osta or lgd. I'd say lgd is pretty on par with anavar mg vs. Mg in many ways. So whatever dose of anavar you have used will probably be a good dose of lgd, or ostarine. I apologize for the short response but I didn't get a chance to read the whole thread, busy day.

Is there more specific questions I may have missed?

HEY
I didn't even need a crystall ball to guess you were going to talk about Anavar! 🌡

 

[Oliver Kween]

I also have some health things that could possibly be hindering some weight loss (another reason I’m sticking to milder stuff)

Above all, don't forget that you have to question everything at the slightest difficulty in terms of health. First look at the undesirable side that Sarms can bring. And I support @Hyde in this sujet !

If you weigh the pros and cons, you'll see that the best solution stems from the best advice here that I will endorse, is to make very serious diet, exercise, and discipline efforts. Or the only friends of this weight loss will be fat burners. Water, tea, sleep, rest, and another sport that we cannot mention here haha

Since normal ovulation isn’t a concern, I would choose very low dose Anavar over Ostarine if you intend to attempt pregnancy again at some point down the road. Women having children post oxandrolone therapy do not have birth defects associated from prior use of it, and we have decades of use in humans to extrapolate from to understand all of the risks. The same cannot be said for Ostarine.

Probably stupid question, I haven't done Anavar.

But does it preserve the joints and ligaments?
Does he bring something to this level?

And do these disadvantages for OST on Woman also have repercussions when a Mann uses it? I didn't know about what you said. I thought that ikl was specifically designed to fight against osteoporosis and had no other advantage than to preserve the joints and fight against sarcopenia.

 

[Hyde]

Well the major reason I’m trying to avoid var is due to its high liver toxicity. While my liver functions are good, I do have a digestive disorder so I just have to be super careful with what I run. Maybe I won’t run ost at all. I will have to do more research on that. Maybe lgd is a better option?

Oxandrolone (Anavar) is probably the least hepatoxic oral AAS there is. Do not confuse it with Oxymetholone (Anadrol), which has been associated with liver cancer.

Ostarine is often well-tolerated, but it’s not unheard of for it to cause liver stress in a minority of poor responders. For myself, neither drug is tough on my liver at all, but both hurt HDL and Ostarine raises my LDL worse than Anavar!

There is ZERO reason to assume LGD is any safer for you. It’s also probably less desirable for your particular use case. All drugs are subject to how you as an individual personally respond to them, but in general LGD is the more potent drug.

Probably stupid question, I haven't done Anavar.

But does it preserve the joints and ligaments?
Does he bring something to this level?

And do these disadvantages for OST on Woman also have repercussions when a Mann uses it? I didn't know about what you said. I thought that ikl was specifically designed to fight against osteoporosis and had no other advantage than to preserve the joints and fight against sarcopenia.

I believe Anavar is especially helpful for accelerating wound repair and things like muscle tears, but I can’t say if this is true for joints. I’ve heard it speculated as such, but this is just bro lore (that I do subscribe to, in this case).

The birth defect issues with Ostarine were noted in women. If a man suffers fertility issues from AAS, the number & strength of his sperm can decrease, but if he is still able to manage to impregnate the egg then there won’t be issues from him being on AAS (that we know of).