First test e cycle started today

This quad pin is making me paranoid.. I looked atbit after i got home from work but cuddnt tell if it was swollen. It feels that way but doesnt look it.. But ache was if i were to attempt high knees id feel like i was about to tear somthing. But didnt make it to the gym today been wiped of from working 12s all week gonna try my best tomorrow.
 
DAMNshame im thinking of jus sticking to glutes.. Is there any other sites u perfer then others? I know since its my first time pinning that i shud have more pain then a vet. But this doesnt feel half as bad as my glute.
 
damn shame this quad has gotten to the point where if im standin for awhile n go to sit down i can feel it tighting up hard as the muscle strecthes... Yo tell me this is normal for a quad pin
 
garrison9173 said:
damn shame this quad has gotten to the point where if im standin for awhile n go to sit down i can feel it tighting up hard as the muscle strecthes... Yo tell me this is normal for a quad pin
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that's normal for me. Goes away in about 4-5 days. It's the volume of oil going into the muscle. It takes time to dissipate. As long as there is no real swelling or heat(like an infection would create) then it's fine. My glutes do the same thing. There is just more space for the muscle to expand into back there...
 
turff49 thank bro.. But four or five days is way to long specially for leg days.. Theres no real reason to alternate between to many sites is there? Like i could do glutes all cycle right?
 
garrison9173 said:
turff49 thank bro.. But four or five days is way to long specially for leg days.. Theres no real reason to alternate between to many sites is there? Like i could do glutes all cycle right?
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Yeah, I've been doing glutes now for about 4 straight weeks. Mainly because I'm up and down a lot at work. The glutes just make it easier.
 
turff49 said:
Yeah, I've been doing glutes now for about 4 straight weeks. Mainly because I'm up and down a lot at work. The glutes just make it easier.
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How long does it take before scar tissue becomes an issue? Isn't that one of the reasons why alternating sites is suggested?
 
Not sure but I've known people to inject glutes for years while blasting and cruising.
 
Question for everybody i didnt think that itd be enought but i have 14 pills of msten left over from my pro cycle would that be enough to give me a little kickstart since i front loaded.. And on week 2. Personally i dont see any real benefit in takin it but i dont see any negative effects from takin.. Kinda a waste of money for it to jus waste away though.
 
KillJitsu said:
Mind elaborating?
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The injection was fine but the next day the pain was unreal. Could hardly walk for 1 week.

garrison9173 said:
damn shame this quad has gotten to the point where if im standin for awhile n go to sit down i can feel it tighting up hard as the muscle strecthes... Yo tell me this is normal for a quad pin
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Really not sure as I have only ever done it once. :-) If you are only doing twice a week injections I would stick to glutes and alternate. It is a bit harder to do with twisting around but better in the long run.
 
I figure its not really gonna make to much of a difference since i dont have that much.. But i dont see the any point n jot doing it.
 
So today was poke number four..for those who dont work nights poke was yesterday. But skipped left quad went back to right glute... Flawless.... After that had 3 eggs few pieces of beacon and some oatmeal.. Then hit the gym also started taking the rest of my msten.. Did chest and tris today felt gud to finally get back in there.. Stood on the scale weigh 234 but thats with clothes on n all so can minus a few.. But definitely gonna do some cardio tomorrow. Part of the goalbis to drop bf even though ik som of the weight is water still a little worried ill end up where i dont wanna be. Felt pretty good today n the gym ig u could say placebo was n full effect. Hopefully things start to change next week. Ready to start feeling amazing lol.
 
garrison9173 Welp, I pinned left quad about 30 minutes ago. No injection pain and no blood upon withdrawal but I'll be damned if I don't have that same sort of PIP you were describing. Feels like the muscle right around the injection point is tensed or knotted up. If I lift my leg up and bend at the knee, it feels like the muscle is going to pull apart. Not really painful, just uncomfortable and noticeable.

So you're not alone man, haha.
 
KillJitsu get ready for the next couple days... And idk if the heats a good idea anoth post mention heat=infection but i massaged and strecthed as much as i could. Didnt help much but made me feel better.
 
Hey brother. As far as heat goes, they are speaking to the warmth that radiates out of the skin which is indicative of infection. Adding an external heat source doesn't increase risk for infection.

With that said, I massaged the area with a heat therapy bag and I feel 98% right now. Just a tiny bit of soreness in the area now.
 
Week 3 left glute 5th pin.. Libido has defintely increased tryd to get a couple broads lined up ahead of time.. Semi worked.. Other then that pinned earlier his afternoon today was back n bi's also two miles of cardio do to weight increase currently at 238.. Def been more pumped during sessions.. Love super setting with arms got a awesome pump.. Looking forward to the next couple weeks... Ready to really kill it.
 
Get after it man!

EDIT: Saw your question. I'm on week 2 of trestolone. I think test e is thicker which may account for additional PIP you're experiencing compared to me.
 
Pinned thanksgiving end of week three.. Gotten to the point of no pip. Plan on grubbin the entire week feeling like im a little more solid and fuller. Hope everybodys holiday was a gud one. Forgot to add sleep has been on i would be sleep by 1030 n be back up by 3..
 
Week 4 7th pin... Focused on bac today ran a mile gonna run one everyday this week for all the food i ate.. Defintely gettin more pumped in the gym aggression slightly up. Sleep is still outta whack veins are becoming more noticeable after the gym. Started second vial today as well.. Also had a question about the hcg. I was read a discussion about when to start it. And planned on doing a blast dose starting after last pin and then through out pct... Reason being the discussion i read said the using hcg while also using test is sending mixed signals by telling hpta to start back up while natural test is still suppressed by steroid. So therefore being pointless to start sending signals unless u coming off of the test.. So is my timing right for the hcg assuming this information is correct.. Iv heard both sides of it but tend to lean towards the body being confused while using hcg throughtout cycle than towards the end.
 
Do not take HCG during PCT either take higher doses at the end of your cycle before PCT of lower doses during the cycle.
 
Pip is so painful, I like quad the best (well only I've done, but the pain sucked for first 3weeks, walkin like a chick who jus took a 12incher)
 
Pretty nice time n the gym today noticing im in there for a longer period of time.. Did chest n tri's som of the things i joticed today strength on bench went up with the way things are now vs how theyll be goin i see bench pr being well over 300.. When i hit my tri's after the first set they completely blew up or atleast felt that wat defintely more pump and full feeling. Only down side is this whole lack of sleep.
 
Week 4 8th pin... Lately been noticing aggression has been elevated i think co workers are starting to notice. Becoming alot more short tempered. Dont care either way lol. Was a leg day today been trying things with more weight but not over doing it.. Just trying to guage where my strength is verses where it was. Ready for the next two weeks.. From many logs iv read this is about the time it really kicks in.. I think next time around ill be going with test prop test e is cool but it seems lik 4 weeks of pinning for 3-4 weeks of gaining. As iv seen some logs say theyve stopped gaining at week 7 but that cuddve been a diet issue. But ill check in with u guys next week or sooner if anythin major happens.....peaceeeeee
 
garrison9173 said:
225lbs 24 yrs 15 %bf goals drop bf and add strength and mass

Cycle info
Gp test e 250mg mon thurs 1-12 week
Arimdex .5 startin second week giv or take
Hcg 5000ui's week 13-14
Gp clomid and nolva
100/74/50/50
40/40/20/20


First pin was today right glute frontloaded 500mgs wanted more stable blood levels. Drew with 18g pinned with 1 1/2 23g. Was pretty nervouse with this being the first time around. Warmed vial drew test and slowly plunged took about min then massage pin site. Even took a hot shower thinkin it might help as well. First pin felt kinda funny but expected. Could almost feel it goin in the more i pushed almost felt like a knot.. Wasnt bad overall still feel it but not painful at all. Hit the gym was a back and bi day.. Felt normal no placebo affect or anything. Seen alota logs and alota uncompleted logs planning on updating every pin or until effects start showing. So thursday another 500mgs planning on left glute... Till then
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Your PCT is very good. You're also using HCG correctly, but you only inject that much every other day for 2 weeks. I have seen for longer cycles it's good to extend your nolva to 6-weeks...2 weeks passed clomid. This was in Anabolics 2006 shown as an idea cycle for longer cycles such as yours.
 
Week 5 9th pin... Defintely aome noticable differences libido has been threw the roof... Acne is starting to populate.. But pinned left glute today went staight to the gym felt un ****in stoppable.. Did dumbell incline started with 45s12 reps all the way up to 65s 8 reps then the 70s for 2 reps... Chest was pumped shoulders were on fire.. Loved it... Starting to see more defintion more vascularity.. Arimidex at .5 a day keeps me pretty dry if i dont pound water... Not even half way through my second vial and still have one left so im either going to increase the amount of test or stretch it to 14 weeks or however much i have last. Recovery time is waaaaaaayyyyy faster not even sore he next day specially from legs.. Which i plann on hitting tomorrow hit 250 on the bench last week aiming for 275 this week and 300+ in the following weeks..with the right song and that inner aggression comin out no weight seems heavy. Cant imagine how the follow weeks will be.
 
10th pin hit the gym pretty hard all week.. Was havin a leg day n towards the end. I look over at the bench press ended up sayin **** it i was feelin pretty pumped. Load4 plates on plus 2 25s repd twice then went for the 3 plates on each side.. Got one solid rep out felt great after that went hard the next two days.. Been completely drained forced myself to hit it today so im glad ill be taking my days off this weekend... Acne has subsided partial due to the keflex that i take daily... As for effects so far no sides increase nnpump size strength hardness wieghts gone up but bf has dropped. Aggressions up overall feeling great wen in the gym. Outside the gym feel pretty normal still short tempered never got that sense of well being feeling some have claimed. Still waking up atleast two hrs before i normally do.. Later fellas
 
damn shame although im doing cardio im not losing the fat/bf% im aiming for. Iv been contemplating using clen. But not quite sure, iv read of users using it alone instead of on cycle and vis versa.. So ig my question is by then end of my test run if im not down to where i wanna be would it be safe or run it then or more optimal to run while on cycle?
 
you can do either, you can also look at running some T3. Clen does not agree with me so I stay away from it but many people handle the sides well.

you could also try to do your cardio fasted first thing in the morning.
 
Could not really give you any advice about clen, used it once many years ago and stopped after I got cramps so bad I could not walk for days. From what I have read clen does work well on cycle and with T-3 for cutting.
 
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