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First stack thoughts?

sfase

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Alright here we go...
Stats...
Height 6'2
Weight 220
Body fat 18-22%
Age 22
Goal Recomposition
Stack
Anavar (10mg daily).... (for 8 weeks on 4 weeks off.)
MK667- 15mg daily.... 6 months (straight continuous use.)
Mk2886 (15mg daily).... (for 4 weeks on 4 weeks off)
Letrozole (2.5mg daily).... (for 8 weeks...just once)...

Why I have the stack like this is intresting, its not cause I'm afraid of the needle of anything its just to avoid suppression/shut down, by having low doses short periods of time, I can avoid getting suppressed/shut down. Also if anyone knows how to dissolve Letro without alcholol (highly allegric to it...) lmk...

MK 2886 has not been shown to be suppressive, for only 4 week lengths at moderate/low doses and Anavar is very mildly suppressive at 10mg. I don't want any dramatic changes that should be noted only subtle slow ones.

EDIT 1: length of stack.
EDIT 2: reasoning.
 
Bro I don't even think you need letro with that cycle but I may be wrong. At most 0.5mg EOD. That type of dose will make you hate your life man.
 
Where's the test base, Anavar is mild but 10mg will do nothing and you'll be more than likely still suppressed, terrible terrible stack.
 
I had a typo with the letrzole my bad it was supposed to be .25mg daily. Anyways I might not include it, to reduce gyno, since I'm gyno prone. Though I know Anavar and MK2886 don't aromatise.
 
Anavar is very mildly suppressive at very low doses according to medical literature. (can't link studies)....

A gym buddy tried this stack (without letro) and didn't notice any suppression what so ever, (at least his blood work showed it). He got about 12 lbs in the 12 weeks he ran it.
 
10mg suppressive, I'm not certain? I'm fairly certain they give this to kids to help them grow etc, in fact they give them double the dose if they are the weight that I am.. The point being is that 10mg doesn't aromatise etc... and 10mg will be so mildy suppressive (15mg has been shown to be suppressive in older men but that is 50% the dose I am taking), that it will probably only be slightly noticeable.
 
sfase said:
10mg suppressive, I'm not certain? I'm fairly certain they give this to kids to help them grow etc, in fact they give them double the dose if they are the weight that I am.. The point being is that 10mg doesn't aromatise etc... and 10mg will be so mildy suppressive (15mg has been shown to be suppressive in older men but that is 50% the dose I am taking), that it will probably only be slightly noticeable.
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Still jumping on and off stuff, even with only slight suppression (possibly) could have a massive impact. Lower T and lower E could have you feeling like crap.
 
I personally don't see how I could get suppressed I'm only running 10mg that shouldn't be enough for suppression my natural T levels are still really good so Idk why I should be worried. I really don't see how I could be suppressed by 10mg of Var for only 6-8 weeks.
 
I've done research 10mg shouldn't suppress if anyone has a link to me showing that it is I'll just up the dose and run a test base, (but i'll have to wait a month)... Thanks for any help...

As far as I can tell it very mildly suppressive at 10mg. If I run this I'll post a blood work forum/progress etc...
 
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If you’re running regular bloods, go for it. Don’t come on here asking for advice when you already have all the answers
 
I mean I'm not to worried, mild suppression doesn't worry me its not like I can't run a PCT. Also... they give this dose to kids I am far from worried lol.
 
I think your bigger concern here is the fact that you're running 2 (even mildly) suppresive compounds. Osta has been show to cause suppression at just 3mg and with the var in there as well, that may be enough to exacerbate the negative effects, while still not having any or much positive benefit... realistically, this protocol ONLY has benefits if your natural levels stay the same and you get a slight bump up from the 2 compounds... as soon as natural production drops off, these doses are not enough to make up for that loss.

also, the letro is way overkill and will only make you feel terrible. if you are gyno prone, you may want an ai for the osta, but letro is too much (even a low dose) due to how efficient it is... look for adex or aromasin. You realistically should even be fine with an otc like inhibit-e (or if you could find formestane that would work too).
 
I think I'm gonna drop the letro and just save it for the right time. Anyways. I thought Osta was shown to be non suppressive at only four weeks of use. In fact OSTA is so non suppressive I've heard of people using in their PCT thoughts?

So heres my new Stack...
MK667- 6 months 15mg daily
MK2886-15mg daily 4 weeks on 4 weeks off
Var-10mg daily 6-8 weeks on 4 weeks off (see how I feel when on)...
Letro...DROPED,
 
sfase said:
I think I'm gonna drop the letro and just save it for the right time. Anyways. I thought Osta was shown to be non suppressive at only four weeks of use. In fact OSTA is so non suppressive I've heard of people using in their PCT thoughts?

So heres my new Stack...
MK667- 6 months 15mg daily
MK2886-15mg daily 4 weeks on 4 weeks off
Var-10mg daily 6-8 weeks on 4 weeks off (see how I feel when on)...
Letro...DROPED,
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people using osta in pct are idiots haha... that would be my thoughts ;)

again, the fact that you ahve 2 compounds I think is going to lead to suppression. either bump up the doses and plan for a pct, or don't bother with the cycle as listed.
 
sfase said:
10mg suppressive, I'm not certain? I'm fairly certain they give this to kids to help them grow etc, in fact they give them double the dose if they are the weight that I am.. The point being is that 10mg doesn't aromatise etc... and 10mg will be so mildy suppressive (15mg has been shown to be suppressive in older men but that is 50% the dose I am taking), that it will probably only be slightly noticeable.
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Uhhh what.... no, they do not give anavar to kids to help them grow, that would be patently retarded. But yes 10mg of var (probably not going to actually be 10mg and might not even be var anyway) won't completely shut off your LH or FSH and will not completely tank your natural test production (will definitely lower it though) , in fact, 15mg of ostarine is arguably as supressive or more than 10mg of anavar. And as others have said do not use letrozole, either way you are going to be supressed from this stack, no reason to also zero your estrogen.

Also just eat better or diet before you even think of cycling, if youre at ~20% body fat, you can get that down natty in a couple months and then cycle if you still want, plus it will give you more time to research which you probably need.
 
Oh and you will need to run a real PCT with a SERM, ostarine is definitely suppresive and at 4 weeks it's going to give you virtually no gains and still negatively effect your test production.
 
You're not gonna feel like **** but the stack is pointless and I mean absolutely pointless. I doubt there's a man on this earth that would notice and difference form 10 mg anavar. And I really really don't like oral only cycles personally but if you're gonna run that anavar I guess is quite easy to run. Honestly run one legit cycle instead of 5 small.
 
Here's another classic Dylan dip**** Gemelli cycle. Makes no sense and osta is shown to be suppressive at 3mg a day in the first week. Stop believing what you hear on YouTube and actually Research these things yourself.
 
If I had to plan my first cutting/recomp cycle again, without pinning, it would be:

-TD Trest (Dermatr3st) 50mg/d (2x25mg)
-Cardarine 20mg/d
-Either: 50mg/d Winstrol 6weeks / Anavar 60mg/d 6weeks / Ostarine 20mg 8 weeks
-adex on hand but only needed on Osta, IMHO
Tudca/Nac/Fish oil

PCT:
Clomid 50/25/25/25
Nolva 20/20/20/20

No Ibutamoren, causes hunger cravings and bloat
 
Smont said:
Here's another classic Dylan dip**** Gemelli cycle. Makes no sense and osta is shown to be suppressive at 3mg a day in the first week. Stop believing what you hear on YouTube and actually Research these things yourself.
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Besides that he hates anavar haha.. well i do believe sarms has some benefits in cycles especially with tren. And supression sure but that's how it is with all steroids too. You always have to **** yourself up a little do protect yourself with aas. Almost every so called post cycle (therapy) have sides. I'm more worried about running anavar without test, but that's just me.
 
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