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First SD cycle

Amen to that brother. I have a legal based job that requires me to drive for hours a day. So I need to be switched on Monday to Friday.

I ask loads of questions on this forum but every avenue I look at takes me back to my beloved tbol which I feel is the ideal AAS for me. Lean mass, zero side effects, appears to enhance my cardio.
 
Amen to that brother. I have a legal based job that requires me to drive for hours a day. So I need to be switched on Monday to Friday.

I ask loads of questions on this forum but every avenue I look at takes me back to my beloved tbol which I feel is the ideal AAS for me. Lean mass, zero side effects, appears to enhance my cardio.

Yeah, light, unobtrusive cycles is the way to go imo. We're not animals ... I mean ... Yeah ... XD
 
Yeah, light, unobtrusive cycles is the way to go imo. We're not animals ... I mean ... Yeah ... XD

Sorry it affected you that way man.
But everyone's experience isn't the same.
I was able to do all of the same out-of-the-cave functions on SD, as I normally did.
 
Sorry it affected you that way man.
But everyone's experience isn't the same.
I was able to do all of the same out-of-the-cave functions on SD, as I normally did.

I know I know. I'll probably give it a nother go once I'll have more stable life stuff. Untill then, I'll stick to stuff that keep me up instead of down
 
Nothing more to add really then what has been said before in this thread. The lethargy was to much, I couldn't do intellectual work without starting to fall asleep. And since my work is purely intellectual/creative this couldn't fly. Maybe if I didn't have so much stress and bad sleep it would have been better but it was what it was.

I am not sacrificing my sanity and work for a couple of pounds of muscle. My philosophy regarding aas use is that it should enhance your life not just build some muscle. So when one distracts from the other it's a no go. Light - to medium light cycles is mostly what I'll do. Like 500mg test with some primo or tbol, etc...
500mg Test plus second anabolic. That's light around these parts, lol.

What's your total T when on that much Test >3000ng/dL, do you ever cruise on say 100-150mg weekly?
 
500mg Test plus second anabolic. That's light around these parts, lol.

What's your total T when on that much Test >3000ng/dL, do you ever cruise on say 100-150mg weekly?

Yeah it is. But it's SD so... not much need for anything else lmao don't you agree.

I don't trt I cycle.
 
Yeah it is. But it's SD so... not much need for anything else lmao don't you agree.

I don't trt I cycle.
Oh for sure, SD is good all by itself, but you said once off SD you would do a light cycle of high test and perhaps primo?

Did you mean you don't TRT on cycle or off cycle? So you only blast Test on occasion?
 
Oh for sure, SD is good all by itself, but you said once off SD you would do a light cycle of high test and perhaps primo?

Did you mean you don't TRT on cycle or off cycle? So you only blast Test on occasion?

Meant to say I am not on trt. Regarding cycle use, test is always at a minimum of 400 I'd say... I did 250 once as a base for an 1, 4, epi andro stack, but that's it.

I'm going to start my cut next week. And it's going to be 400 Test, 250 primo, 200 mast and I'll probably add SD at the last 3 or 4 weeks at a really low dose. Like 5mg or something like that as I found it's a really strong nutrient partitioner.

Unfortunately bulk was a bust. Didn't train one week bc I had to move and a also another week bc I got sick... So Maybe I got away with 4 pounds of tissue?? Idk... This is why I'm thinking of maybe recomping now instead of straight out cutting. But I would need more gear for that for sure. 500 primo at a minimum. Or up the test to 550 maybe... But test isn't much of a recomp agent in my experience...
 
Looks like it got you. Not wanting to even move from bed, check. Hard to function because tired, check. Hard to feel hungry, check. Hard to eat, check. That’s superdrol.

It's just my appetite, it has never been big. It's what keept me skinny my whole life.

But not eating... now that's a problem. It feels like I am going to die. Like going hypo.

Yea I've been naturally thin my whole life as well. Like you I'm a natural ecto and eating is hard. Taking something to make that even harder is prob not gonna be worth it for me. After reading this thread think I'm gonna pass on SD for my next Test cycle. Maybe something slightly milder like MSten.
 
For a gainer I love me some Dymatize Elite Mass. Great taste, easy on stomach, mixes well, and you literally feel better after one of those with ice, milk, and fruit. It's also low creatine.

That good, huh? I've been using Cyto Gainer for years, but I'd be willing to switch to this seeing as it's much cheaper per pound.
 
Im currently running 500 Test E, 400, Tren A, and 40mgs SD preworkout. I believe this is my new favorite combo. Tren counter acts the negative SD sides and vice versa. Its the sweet spot for me, the changes in my body are significant..on a daily basis...each day, more speration, more fullness, more strength, more Vascularity. Many years ago, when it was still legal, I tried running a solo SD cycle and felt like death. I would fall asleep sweating my ass off just about anywhere I sat down. But this mixture is pretty sweet.
 
Im currently running 500 Test E, 400, Tren A, and 40mgs SD preworkout. I believe this is my new favorite combo. Tren counter acts the negative SD sides and vice versa. Its the sweet spot for me, the changes in my body are significant..on a daily basis...each day, more speration, more fullness, more strength, more Vascularity. Many years ago, when it was still legal, I tried running a solo SD cycle and felt like death. I would fall asleep sweating my ass off just about anywhere I sat down. But this mixture is pretty sweet.

40mg SD + tren oh man hahaha
 
Dude..i aint trying to get any bigger. I got pics on my thread. Ive went from 362 to 300. I was a powerlifter, now just trying to cut up

Okey okey, can't get it right lmao

Does tren minimise pumps and cramps from SD? Cuz I can't imagine doing high volume and cardio on 15mg SD yet alone 40mg XD
 
That good, huh? I've been using Cyto Gainer for years, but I'd be willing to switch to this seeing as it's much cheaper per pound.
Yeah I've been a loyal Dymatize fan, their new NO pre workout is pretty darn good too. That said I bought GAT Radical Mass and MHP Up Your Mass gainers to compare. Just so I have options.
 
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