Guest viewing limit reached
  • You have reached the maximum number of guest views allowed
  • Please register below to remove this limitation

First SARMs stack - Cutting

Alexv78

New member
Hey guys, about to start my first SARM stack as of around Monday. Been doing a bit of research into it and definitely sounds superior to PHs. I do have a few questions which I would like to ask, which I haven't found on other threads. I have decided that this was the best option over AAS and PH.

First of all, I'll provide my current status.
Height: 206cm
Weight 95kg
Age: 22
BF: 18%
Training for just over 3 years
I have done a PH cycle in the past, but had a few health problems from it.
Currently in a cutting phase.

The SARMs which I have on order are below, and also how I will be dosing them.

LGD-4033 10mg a day in the morning
S4 50mg a day. 25mg in morning, 25mg 4-6 hours later
GW-510516 20mg a day, 30 mins prior to workout
RAD-140 20mg a day in the morning

Currently I only have enough to last me 4 weeks, but would be willing to go for 12 weeks if I needed to.

The questions I have are:
- Would there be any point of a 4 week cycle, or would there be like 0 changes from that? I just don't fancy the suppression from a longer cycle and looks to be quite expensive!

- I have a pack of Nolva to hand from my last PH cycle, can I use this for a mini-PCT instead of Clomid?

Thanks
Alex
 
Alexv78 said:
Hey guys, about to start my first SARM stack as of around Monday. Been doing a bit of research into it and definitely sounds superior to PHs. I do have a few questions which I would like to ask, which I haven't found on other threads. I have decided that this was the best option over AAS and PH.

First of all, I'll provide my current status.
Height: 206cm
Weight 95kg
Age: 22
BF: 18%
Training for just over 3 years
I have done a PH cycle in the past, but had a few health problems from it.
Currently in a cutting phase.

The SARMs which I have on order are below, and also how I will be dosing them.

LGD-4033 10mg a day in the morning
S4 50mg a day. 25mg in morning, 25mg 4-6 hours later
GW-510516 20mg a day, 30 mins prior to workout
RAD-140 20mg a day in the morning

Currently I only have enough to last me 4 weeks, but would be willing to go for 12 weeks if I needed to.

The questions I have are:
- Would there be any point of a 4 week cycle, or would there be like 0 changes from that? I just don't fancy the suppression from a longer cycle and looks to be quite expensive!

- I have a pack of Nolva to hand from my last PH cycle, can I use this for a mini-PCT instead of Clomid?

Thanks
Alex
Click to expand...

You're going to DIE of lethargy with that stack.
The LGD and RAD alone. Who made that for you?
4 weeks is useless, and you don't have to stack 4 3 SARMS and and GW 501516.

What's your goal? With LGD it cannot be cutting. It's for bulking along with RAD and S4.
You'll need On Cycle Liver Support and running it a week prior to your cycle, then the PCT. A "Pack" of Nolva? 4 weeks.

LIVER IVis the best product for Liver Support on the market for the price and value.
[B]http://www.veinnutrition.com[/B] (See Liver IV / Cycle Support)

Drop the LGD and the RAD. (Bulk)
S4 and GW only or Ostarine (MK 2866). (Cut)
Is this RC or Capped versions of the SARMS?

There is a board sponsor now that sells SARMS. "PRE" - I would look there first for the SARMS instead.
Invalid Link Removed

Then for GW 501516 there is also another company MA Labs, another board sponsor here and I've their MK 677 which is seriously gtg, and if I were to use GW for a cut, I would get it from them before RC.
Invalid Link Removed
 
justhere4comm said:
You're going to DIE of lethargy with that stack.
The LGD and RAD alone. Who made that for you?
4 weeks is useless, and you don't have to stack 4 3 SARMS and and GW 501516.

What's your goal? With LGD it cannot be cutting. It's for bulking along with RAD and S4.
You'll need On Cycle Liver Support and running it a week prior to your cycle, then the PCT. A "Pack" of Nolva? 4 weeks.

LIVER IVis the best product for Liver Support on the market for the price and value. (See Liver IV / Cycle Support)

Drop the LGD and the RAD. (Bulk)
S4 and GW only or Ostarine (MK 2866). (Cut)
Is this RC or Capped versions of the SARMS?

There is a board sponsor now that sells SARMS. "PRE" - I would look there first for the SARMS instead.


Then for GW 501516 there is also another company MA Labs, another board sponsor here and I've their MK 677 which is seriously gtg, and if I were to use GW for a cut, I would get it from them before RC.
Click to expand...

Thanks for your reply, sorry for my very late reply!

It is the RC version of the SARMs. I made an error with the RAD, I will be dosing that at 10mg a day. So far I haven't had any problems and I have noticed some slight strength gains, and definitely hardness in my muscles. I haven't had an lethargy problems at the moment, but I imagine that will probably occur later in the cycle. I've decided I'm gonna run it for a whole 12 weeks!

I haven't got any OCS, but I am using Estro Strike to reduce the possibilities of any gyno. I've posted on another forum and done some research, which suggests that the SARMs aren't liver toxic, however I know you can't believe everything you read on the internet. I will be purchasing some OCS this week, better to be safe than sorry!

I can tell the SARMs are working already. My lifts have improved, I sweat a lot more in the gym (even more so when I take Dust Extreme with DMAA), and as I've said before, my muscles feel a lot fuller and harder!

My goal is recomp really, cut body fat whilst putting on a bit of muscle size. I know that this isn't exactly possible, but I'll try my hardest. Eating at a calorie deficit.

The stack which I'm running is actually a stack on Sarms1, which is why I believed it was an ideal stack to run.
 
bigsmall said:
OL endurashred would be a good option (buy it from the UK).
Click to expand...

This. Olympus UK Endurashred = Ostarine + Carderine in a single pill for a very good price.

Plus, Sarms1 and SARMX are really overpriced. And Dyllan and his people love to offer all these different compounds in their forum to make more money.

End result: You end up spending hundreds and hundreds of dollars, more side effects, for about the same results. My 2 cents.
 
22, already damaged yourself with prohormones, now throwing down a crazy stack for your first SARM run...

Mate... Gotta look after yourself.
 
Eight said:
22, already damaged yourself with prohormones, now throwing down a crazy stack for your first SARM run...

Mate... Gotta look after yourself.
Click to expand...

You say that, but the amount of people younger than me on actual gear is ridiculous. I just wanted something to add a little boost and achieve quicker results, without having to go down the route of AAS. Some people say it's a crazy stack, some people say it's a decent stack. Wherever you go, there's gonna be positive and negative views to every stack. No one has given me solid advice on what SARMs to run for my goals, so I looked for a stack and bought it!
 
Kaibutsu said:
This. Olympus UK Endurashred = Ostarine + Carderine in a single pill for a very good price.

Plus, Sarms1 and SARMX are really overpriced. And Dyllan and his people love to offer all these different compounds in their forum to make more money.

End result: You end up spending hundreds and hundreds of dollars, more side effects, for about the same results. My 2 cents.
Click to expand...

I prefer taking the RC over the capsules, I've read that you could basically be buying a pro hormone if bought in the capsule form!

I looked on Sarms1 for the stack idea, but purchased on a different website. Their prices are insane!
 
Alexv78 said:
You say that, but the amount of people younger than me on actual gear is ridiculous.
Click to expand...
I don't have any particular issue with your age (I know many on AM will though), but you have a lot of good years of training and living ahead of you.

With that time, you can afford to exercise a little more caution. I don't think anyone with any credibility would have recommended S4, LGD and RAD for your first time out - it seems unfortunate that you ended up with that advice.

Anyway, hope the cycle goes ok. Get some blood work done at the end.
 
Eight said:
I don't have any particular issue with your age (I know many on AM will though), but you have a lot of good years of training and living ahead of you.

With that time, you can afford to exercise a little more caution. I don't think anyone with any credibility would have recommended S4, LGD and RAD for your first time out - it seems unfortunate that you ended up with that advice.

Anyway, hope the cycle goes ok. Get some blood work done at the end.
Click to expand...

I understand that, and I know there are risks, but that's something I was pulled into for some quick results if I'm going to be honest. Everyone wants results fast!

Could you recommend a stack for me? I'm able to cut out some of the SARMs now, as I'm only a week in, doubt they would've taken too much effect by now. Plus I can end up saving money, as I haven't bought the next 8 weeks worth!

Looking to cut and get shredded for my holiday in January!
 
Alexv78 said:
I understand that, and I know there are risks, but that's something I was pulled into for some quick results if I'm going to be honest. Everyone wants results fast!

Could you recommend a stack for me? I'm able to cut out some of the SARMs now, as I'm only a week in, doubt they would've taken too much effect by now. Plus I can end up saving money, as I haven't bought the next 8 weeks worth!

Looking to cut and get shredded for my holiday in January!
Click to expand...
S4, Ost, GW
 
What should I do with the current LGD and RAD that I have? Stop taking, or just continue use of it until I don't have any more? I only have 2 weeks worth left
 
There are better people to ask. The advice from JustThere above looked solid.

Chances are, you're not going to explode in size on anything sensible in one run before January. Or at least, not from anything I know of.

But personally, I like ostarine + arimistane. The combination leans me out fast, gives me great recovery so I can train harder, and is a pretty easy run. I definitely get some suppression on that though.

Could add cardarine if you're doing lots of cardio, but otherwise save your money.

Most effective (and cheapest) way of cutting - eat less.
 
Alexv78 said:
I understand that, and I know there are risks, but that's something I was pulled into for some quick results if I'm going to be honest. Everyone wants results fast!

Could you recommend a stack for me? I'm able to cut out some of the SARMs now, as I'm only a week in, doubt they would've taken too much effect by now. Plus I can end up saving money, as I haven't bought the next 8 weeks worth!

Looking to cut and get shredded for my holiday in January!
Click to expand...
At 18% bf?

With 18% I would suggest lots of cardio and a well Balance diet, at 18% if you do the right thing you drop weight fast.

And most people would agree that probably the best time to start using these compounds is probably under 15% bf.

None of this compounds are gonna burn fat for you, there isn't a magic pill. I would suggest you to try to get to 15 or 13% first. MAN I know it sucks, but sometimes we want that extra push to get to our destination and we take short cuts that only slow us down like the PH you used.

And about your sarm cycle, my trainer always tell me slow is smooth, smooth is fast, the less is more and the more is less.
Don't do a crazy stack like that, at some point you are going to have to stop using it and if you aren't determined, you are just gonna go back to point A.

I heard cardarine is a good cutting sarm(not a sarm). But that's my 2 cents.

By the way, how is it going with that stack?
 
Ihatbanas said:
At 18% bf?

With 18% I would suggest lots of cardio and a well Balance diet, at 18% if you do the right thing you drop weight fast.

And most people would agree that probably the best time to start using these compounds is probably under 15% bf.

None of this compounds are gonna burn fat for you, there isn't a magic pill. I would suggest you to try to get to 15 or 13% first. MAN I know it sucks, but sometimes we want that extra push to get to our destination and we take short cuts that only slow us down like the PH you used.

And about your sarm cycle, my trainer always tell me slow is smooth, smooth is fast, the less is more and the more is less.
Don't do a crazy stack like that, at some point you are going to have to stop using it and if you aren't determined, you are just gonna go back to point A.

I heard cardarine is a good cutting sarm(not a sarm). But that's my 2 cents.

By the way, how is it going with that stack?
Click to expand...

This. Get a thermo fat burner and do some tabatas.
 
Ihatbanas said:
At 18% bf?

With 18% I would suggest lots of cardio and a well Balance diet, at 18% if you do the right thing you drop weight fast.

And most people would agree that probably the best time to start using these compounds is probably under 15% bf.

None of this compounds are gonna burn fat for you, there isn't a magic pill. I would suggest you to try to get to 15 or 13% first. MAN I know it sucks, but sometimes we want that extra push to get to our destination and we take short cuts that only slow us down like the PH you used.

And about your sarm cycle, my trainer always tell me slow is smooth, smooth is fast, the less is more and the more is less.
Don't do a crazy stack like that, at some point you are going to have to stop using it and if you aren't determined, you are just gonna go back to point A.

I heard cardarine is a good cutting sarm(not a sarm). But that's my 2 cents.

By the way, how is it going with that stack?
Click to expand...

Sorry for the late reply

Stack is going well. Almost 4 weeks in. Upping the dosage of Rad to 20mg a day and also adding in Osta for 8 weeks.

Struggle to take the SARMs, I found that pouring a small amount of cranberry juice into a mug, then dropping the sarm into the top and downing it straight away works fine though. I can tell it's working as I'm getting the vision sides of the S4. It's not that bad, I can tolerate it, let's me know that it's working!

I am honestly loving the stack. Around week 2 I was feeling very lethargic for a day or two, but I think that was because I had three rest days in a row. Feel great now though! Haven't had any shutdown or loss of libido yet, thank ****!

Along with the stack I'm also taking:
Assault Labs Estro-Strike - 2 caps a day
OL Ignit3 - 5 caps a day
OL Sup3r-shred - 2 caps a day
NAC - 2 caps a day
Dust Extreme with DMAA

Generally use the OL Ignit3/Sup3r-shred on rest days, and then the dust on workout days.

Loving the cycle though. Will try and keep you posted as I progress, but I rarely use the forum!
 
Alexv78 said:
Sorry for the late reply

Stack is going well. Almost 4 weeks in. Upping the dosage of Rad to 20mg a day and also adding in Osta for 8 weeks.

Struggle to take the SARMs, I found that pouring a small amount of cranberry juice into a mug, then dropping the sarm into the top and downing it straight away works fine though. I can tell it's working as I'm getting the vision sides of the S4. It's not that bad, I can tolerate it, let's me know that it's working!

I am honestly loving the stack. Around week 2 I was feeling very lethargic for a day or two, but I think that was because I had three rest days in a row. Feel great now though! Haven't had any shutdown or loss of libido yet, thank ****!

Along with the stack I'm also taking:
Assault Labs Estro-Strike - 2 caps a day
OL Ignit3 - 5 caps a day
OL Sup3r-shred - 2 caps a day
NAC - 2 caps a day
Dust Extreme with DMAA

Generally use the OL Ignit3/Sup3r-shred on rest days, and then the dust on workout days.

Loving the cycle though. Will try and keep you posted as I progress, but I rarely use the forum!
Click to expand...
What brand are the sarms you are running right now?
 
Ihatbanas said:
What brand are the sarms you are running right now?
Click to expand...

The first 4 weeks I used NootropicSource. The next 4 weeks I did a bit more research and needed a UK site, and heard good things about Receptor Chem, I have ordered with them and they should be here tomorrow!
 
Alexv78 said:
The first 4 weeks I used NootropicSource. The next 4 weeks I did a bit more research and needed a UK site, and heard good things about Receptor Chem, I have ordered with them and they should be here tomorrow!
Click to expand...
What sarms did you end up using?
 
Alexv78 said:
Not a Dylan victim. I looked on Sarms1 for a decent stack to run, and then went another site and bought the SARMs for a 1/4 of the price.
Click to expand...

My man, you're a victim of bad information. The intent was to sell you a sh!t-ton of what you don't need to just make $$ off of more than likely under dosed SARMS. And you just went and bought what you were told to get somewhere else (likely properly dosed) which is a potential problem. That logic will lead you in wrong directions and potential harm. First, get a solid source for information and then based on that, make your decisions.

You don't know what is doing what in that stack, as you have 4 compounds working, and the only one that I can certainly say is helping endurance for sure is the GW. You could have gotten away with using just one SARM, (Not LGD) as discussed before because it's not for a cut rather for a bulk. All said already.

18% BF to start would have been better off with a serious look at diet; staples; and nothing else until you achieved 12% and then begun your journey into the realm of SARMS or other PEDs if you must.

---
//Sales pitch.
My company (See below) makes products that support your efforts before, during, and after the gym.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top