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First 'real' cycle

Chefbolic

Chefbolic

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I've been a long time reader of the forums on this site, I always find good advice. I have run a few prohormones in the past with excellent results, and after about a year off I was finally able to get my hands on some 'real' gear. I am planning on running test E for 10 weeks at 250mls a week, and kick starting it with dzine at 30mgs for the first four. I have nolva, DAA, erase, and pregnyl for my pct. I was originally going to kick with dbol, but I am concerned that the little pink monsters are methyl test and not methandione so they're going to wait. Anyway, cycle looks like this:

test
250/250/250/250/250/250/250/250/250/250
dmz
30/30/30/30
nolva
10/10/10/10/10/10/10/10/10/10/40/40/20/20
DAA
0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/3/3/3/3
erase
0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/3/3/3/3
hcg
0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/5000/5000/5000/5000

Seeing as I am not terribly experienced with steroid usage, I'm sure my cycle has it's flaws. I've done plenty of reading on this forum, and others, and there are varying opinions on what to do. I am 6'1, 252lbs, and relatively lean. Any input would be greatly appreciated, I have the utmost respect for the super knowledgeable on this site.
Thank you!
 
250 a week is too low and its gonna shut your natural production down anyway, so why not run 400 or more? That dose is considered one for someone on TRT... Get more test
 
Agreed....

Why 250? You get the most gains out of your first cycle, and 500mg for 10-12 weeks is a normal beginners range. Either way you get shut down.
 
I would bump the test up and if your worried about shut down enough to use HCG run it throughout the cycle and not during PCT.

Try this -

test
500/500/500/500/500/500/500/500/500/500
dmz
30/30/30/30
nolva
20/20/20/20/20/20/20/20/20/20/60/40/20/20
DAA
0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/3/3/3/3
erase
0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/3/3/3/3
hcg (250 IU 2x a week)
500/500/500/500/500/500/500/500/500/500/0/0/0/0
 
Thanks guys, I will be definitely getting more test. I was only going to do 250 because a good friend of mine had good results on that dose, but he was also running winny after a dzine and halo kicker. Shame he didn't bump up the test...probably could have seen better results.
 
icon0561 said:
I would bump the test up and if your worried about shut down enough to use HCG run it throughout the cycle and not during PCT.

Try this -

test
500/500/500/500/500/500/500/500/500/500
dmz
30/30/30/30
nolva
20/20/20/20/20/20/20/20/20/20/60/40/20/20
DAA
0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/3/3/3/3
erase
0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/3/3/3/3
hcg (250 IU 2x a week)
500/500/500/500/500/500/500/500/500/500/0/0/0/0
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This is a much better plan.
 
I have run AIs in the past but I feel like they reduce estrogen too much. The last time I ran dex I had shoulder issues which could all be in my head but maybe not. Either way a low dose of nolva has done the trick and keeping gyno at bay without any other problems from what I can tell.
 
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