First Pinning Cycle Log

Volvo140G said:
loooooong slooooooow streeeeeeeetch
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So much pain involved with that lol

If my right delt hurts when stretching, does that mean I just need to take it slower, or is there something wrong with it? My left delt doesn't hurt, but no matter how light I do the same stretch with my right one it kills.
 
rascal14 said:
I always appreciate the opportunity to save money! Lol



No I don't. Up until recently I never stretched or anything. I've been trying to more lately, but I thought it was better to do it post workout? I don't have a foam roller and there isn't one at the gym, but I used a softball for my shoulders and it felt great.
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Foam roll the quads and the upper part of your knee where the quad and knee connects and your knee pain will go away temporarily. I started foam rolling in the last few months and it really has been a godsend. It feels so good after foam rolling muscles. You need to warm up more as well. Dynamic warmup, band work, etc. whatever gets your joints and connective tissue feeling good. It DOES take a lot of work and to be fair it's quite ****ing annoying but if you want to stay in this game in the long term you better get used to it before it's too late. Also consider a deload or contrast week if necessary. I hate deloading. I just finished my first deload week on Monday and the whole week was brutal because I hate not pushing myself 125 percent in the gym but it definitely made my whole body feel a hell of a lot better. It was worth it
 
JeremyNG25 said:
Foam roll the quads and the upper part of your knee where the quad and knee connects and your knee pain will go away temporarily. I started foam rolling in the last few months and it really has been a godsend. It feels so good after foam rolling muscles. You need to warm up more as well. Dynamic warmup, band work, etc. whatever gets your joints and connective tissue feeling good. It DOES take a lot of work and to be fair it's quite ****ing annoying but if you want to stay in this game in the long term you better get used to it before it's too late. Also consider a deload or contrast week if necessary. I hate deloading. I just finished my first deload week on Monday and the whole week was brutal because I hate not pushing myself 125 percent in the gym but it definitely made my whole body feel a hell of a lot better. It was worth it
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Yeah I need to work on warming up better as well. I just want to get in the gym and immediately start pushing as much weight as I can lol

I'm gonna take these next couple of days off and see how I feel, then I'll probably easy back into the weights.
 
Also, the Mocha flavored protein from MyProtein tastes pretty awesome. Just like an iced coffee. I haven't opened the Vanilla yet, I'm too obsessed with the Mocha. Lol
 
I got about an hour and a half of sleep before I started waking up anxious and stuff. I slept from 4:15am to now basically. I was starving right before I went to bed and so I destroyed a bunch of cheese and crackers lol

I've also take some Kratom the past two nights to try and help the joint/tendon pain I'm having. It's worked, but possibly at the expense of my sleep. We will see how tonight goes.
 
And I prefer to stretch before. I don't think there's a ton of science to it - I mean there could be - but I think as long as there is some stretching then you're going to be better off. It's very important to prevent injuries - especially if your flexibility is poor.
 
I may just buy a foam roller, they're pretty cheap through Amazon prime.

I just remember reading something saying that to warm up before lifting to just do that particular lift lightly and save the stretching for after. I'm not sure why or if it was even credible source.

I've been looking into a health and exercise science degree, I figured if I'm so invested in this stuff for myself it's worth possibly making some kind of money out of it.
 
Yep foam roller is good investment, chill with some TV and work your roller.

And yes static stretching before heavy exercises can put you at risk of injury. The reasoning escapes me but they always say not to stretch before squatting for example. I just warm up throughly with five mins on treadmill or bike then two light sets co concentrating on progressing to full range of motion. For example on bench I *know* my shoulders will be too tight to get bar to my chest right away so I work up to it and by about 10th rep i let myself get there once muscle is warm. Second warm up set I pause at the bottom of the ROM to get the stretch in and explode out.
 
rascal14 said:
I don't want to but I think I may need a couple days off altogether. Wrists, forearms, shoulders, everything's hurting.
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consider a body-weight deload week? i'm planning one shortly after i finish PCT because I have been really hammering it hard and will continue through PCT to retain as much as possible but i know my body needs a reduction in volume and intensity in the semi-near future.
 
AustBenny said:
Yep foam roller is good investment, chill with some TV and work your roller.

And yes static stretching before heavy exercises can put you at risk of injury. The reasoning escapes me but they always say not to stretch before squatting for example. I just warm up throughly with five mins on treadmill or bike then two light sets co concentrating on progressing to full range of motion. For example on bench I *know* my shoulders will be too tight to get bar to my chest right away so I work up to it and by about 10th rep i let myself get there once muscle is warm. Second warm up set I pause at the bottom of the ROM to get the stretch in and explode out.
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yea with squats i'll go a little lighter and get deep in the hole and hold it for a good 2-3 seconds. i usually do my first set like that.
 
thatguy1234 said:
consider a body-weight deload week? i'm planning one shortly after i finish PCT because I have been really hammering it hard and will continue through PCT to retain as much as possible but i know my body needs a reduction in volume and intensity in the semi-near future.
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I actually had never thought about something like this. Over time I've gradually stopped doing body weight exercises. Pull ups are horrible on my elbows and shoulders.
 
rascal14 said:
I actually had never thought about something like this. Over time I've gradually stopped doing body weight exercises. Pull ups are horrible on my elbows and shoulders.
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ouch- could be from you doing a lot of pronated work, especially with that nerve **** you have going on in your elbows you might want to try pullups neutral grip and with the assist on. may allow you to reap the rewards of this exercise without the pain, especially if you do decide to go ahead with a deload.
 
rascal14 said:
I actually had never thought about something like this. Over time I've gradually stopped doing body weight exercises. Pull ups are horrible on my elbows and shoulders.
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Had the same problem. It's (likely) your biceps and biceps tendon.

Stretch your biceps man. Get in on those trigger points then stretch some more.

Let your arms hang loose by your side. If you are like I was you prob have like a 30 degree angle in your elbow because your biceps are so tight/shortened. Each head then connects to your elbow which gives you grief and the top connects through your shoulder via biceps tendon which ****s with your shoulder. Work on the long head.

Consider when you do a pull up all these things are at play while you try and pull 225 up over a bar. It's not just your lats working.
 
AustBenny said:
Had the same problem. It's (likely) your biceps and biceps tendon.

Stretch your biceps man. Get in on those trigger points then stretch some more.

Let your arms hang loose by your side. If you are like I was you prob have like a 30 degree angle in your elbow because your biceps are so tight/shortened. Each head then connects to your elbow which gives you grief and the top connects through your shoulder via biceps tendon which ****s with your shoulder. Work on the long head.

Consider when you do a pull up all these things are at play while you try and pull 225 up over a bar. It's not just your lats working.
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I appreciate the help man! I'll be sure and focus on this.
 
224 pounds this morning. I haven't been counting calories this weekend, just eating what I want when I want. Lol I've just been laying around and not really doing anything, it's been nice. Foam rolling every couple of hours and I'll take an Epsom salt bath later.

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Damn bro. Your up over 25lbs if I remember correctly where you started. Loving the progress and updates. Keep killing it Rascal
 
I'm ready to get back into the gym tomorrow!! I have heavy chest.

I think there's been some definite lethargy these past few days. All I have wanted to do was sleep. I could lay down and drift off in a minute. Sleep at night has been pretty bad though still.
 
I'm feeling tren lethargy pretty bad on the end of week two. Carb sweats and aggression kicking in pretty bad too. Watch yourself on that tren man shiz is dangerous for productivity lol
 
I didn't record today's work out, I did something a little different and kept it a little shorter and lighter to get back into it. I kept getting pretty winded though and tired out fairly easily.

I did about 15 minutes of foam rolling and stretching once I got home. That's almost a workout on its own lol
 
I'm waking up around 225 each morning lately, probably a pound or two less as I've still been a little full from the day before. Ok definitely feeling leaner than a couple weeks ago. A guy at work today said I was looking bigger too. I feel like my high rep sets have been suffering, I felt this way on Trenavar too though.

I'm at 600mg Tren now by the way, I have been a couple of weeks. No real side effects, I hardly sleep but that could be due to a few things. Tonight should be a good judge on how sleep is, I haven't had any stims or anything late in the day or anything else that should hinder sleep or cause anxiety at night. No night sweats, I have had a little harder breathing when just sitting down or doing easy things. My heart will feel like it's going to beat out of my chest every once in a while. I haven't checked my BP lately either.

Either I'm a super human when it comes to Tren or it may be underdosed if I'm getting such little sides at 600mg a week.


Lat pull downs behind head
140-17,16,12 drop 110-12
Superset
Stiff arm lat pulldowns
105-16,12,12 drop set 85-10 65-10

Machine reverse flies
105-10,10,10

DB curls
30-20 35-18 40-16

Seated cable rows
160-16,16,18,16

Shrugs
270-20,20
180-20,20,20

DB Rows
65-16 drop 60-12

Machine curls
75-10 70-10
65-10 60-8
55-10 50-6 drop to 20


Face pulls
90-18,20

Reverse camber bar curls
Bar+30-16,15,16
Regular 21s- two sets
 
Maybe you just have your ancillaries on point haha. Be optimistic ;)
 
WANTED said:
Cool. ..Was kinda wondering if it was even necessary ?
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rascal14 said:
I don't think it's necessary, but I think it can probably help. I don't know a whole lot about it really.
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I'm currently trying to get it for my PCT, as I've definitely noticed atrophy *down there* and it apparently makes PCT a lot easier in terms of recovering your normal levels and body functions. I'm not quite ready to be permanently shut down yet. Plus I'll do anything to keep the ridiculous amounts of gains I've made.
 
BamBam0319 said:
I'm currently trying to get it for my PCT, as I've definitely noticed atrophy *down there* and it apparently makes PCT a lot easier in terms of recovering your normal levels and body functions. I'm not quite ready to be permanently shut down yet. Plus I'll do anything to keep the ridiculous amounts of gains I've made.
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I was just reading something about it helping to raise test & help start test production back up.
I just did my first pin of Test E just now btw :)
 
WANTED said:
I was just reading something about it helping to raise test & help start it back up.
I just did my first pin of Test E just now btw :)
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Yeah well I know it kick starts your LH/FSH production which in turn stimulates endogenous test production. Makes it very easy for SERMs like clomid and nolva to do their job. A lot of people use HCG on cycle so their PCT runs more smoothly.
How'd the pin go? Did you do 400mg?
 
BamBam0319 said:
Yeah well I know it kick starts your LH/FSH production which in turn stimulates endogenous test production. Makes it very easy for SERMs like clomid and nolva to do their job. A lot of people use HCG on cycle so their PCT runs more smoothly.
How'd the pin go? Did you do 400mg?
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Yup, I was reading about it in a TRT article.
Pin was nice. Felt good, so worth it.
I did 400mg TestE, glute. Did it myself & get another 300 of test c on wednessday.
 
If I end up cruising a few weeks before jumping into a cut for the summer than I will probably get some HCG to blast before PCT.
 
Lots of tastiness going on here. I'll be looking into some HCG.

My balls are a little smaller. There's definiteliy a difference between morning and night time. Morning they are quite full and solid, by night time they are a little smaller and softer.

Probably the eight nuts I busted between morning and night coz of the skyrocket libido.

Congrats to WANTED :)
 
Yeah, my plan unless someone knowledgeable advises me otherwise, is gonna be 1000iu twice the first week, then 250iu 2x per week for 6 weeks. Really hoping I can get it soon so I can start it 2 weeks before I start clomid, and end the hcg and clomid at the same time. Maybe run a little aromasin after that to prevent estrogen rebound.
Edit: now that I think about it I could probably do 3 weeks at 500iu 2x/week instead of 6 weeks at half that dose, because chances are the hcg will come later than the clomid.
 
Also WANTED I would drop your PCT for the epi-GH if you're running test now. No point
 
rascal14 said:
I can't stop eating tonight lol



I think he is on TRT unless I'm thinking of someone else..
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He is but he just started pinning test E along with it haha
 
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